Cummings and goings...

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Hippea

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1,780 posts

68 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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This needs it’s own thread...

So Dominic Cummings was questioned by police for travelling to Durham to see his parents while he was symptomatic with the virus.

Calls for him to resign from the the opposition as well as some Tory MPs.

None story or will this cause havoc for the government?

paulw123

3,169 posts

189 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Sambucket said:
Lots of enemies. Lots of noise.

But too much favour. So swept under carpet with Arcuri and the rest.
That may well be the case but it shouldn’t be. He should be held accountable

Hippea

Original Poster:

1,780 posts

68 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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paulw123 said:
Sambucket said:
Lots of enemies. Lots of noise.

But too much favour. So swept under carpet with Arcuri and the rest.
That may well be the case but it shouldn’t be. He should be held accountable
He’s an unelected advisor, I can’t see how he’s held accountable in any way.

I’m struggling to see how they can make this go away, it’s not like they can just keep him away from the public eye to make people forget as he works in the shadows as it is.

Hippea

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1,780 posts

68 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Sambucket said:
Just ignore it? Boris isn't doing interviews , doesn't need to. Where is the leverage? There are too many other fires to put out.

I'm not a tory, just to be clear!
The ignore it and hope it goes away strategy does seem to be working quite well for Boris at the moment.

ClaphamGT3

11,269 posts

242 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Hippea said:
The ignore it and hope it goes away strategy does seem to be working quite well for Boris at the moment.
I suspect that this may well be how things pan out, albeit Johnson may be somewhat rattled by recent approval ratings for he, Starmer and Sunak

Hippea

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1,780 posts

68 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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ClaphamGT3 said:
I suspect that this may well be how things pan out, albeit Johnson may be somewhat rattled by recent approval ratings for he, Starmer and Sunak
No PMQs for 2 weeks helps, no spotlight or grilling.

chemistry

2,121 posts

108 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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It never ceases to amaze me how dim people are; how did he not think he could be ‘caught’ and how bad it would look when we was?!

Ratski83

952 posts

72 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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chemistry said:
It never ceases to amaze me how dim people are; how did he not think he could be ‘caught’ and how bad it would look when we was?!
This. He comes up with some interesting stuff on his blog and is obviously highly intelligent but seems to lack any common sense.

A prevalent trait I have noticed with these academic types.

Jim H

786 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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And, He does have the Prime Ministers ear.
The bloke is a bell end of the highest order,
(Cummings) closely followed by Boris.

GT03ROB

13,207 posts

220 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Ratski83 said:
chemistry said:
It never ceases to amaze me how dim people are; how did he not think he could be ‘caught’ and how bad it would look when we was?!
This. He comes up with some interesting stuff on his blog and is obviously highly intelligent but seems to lack any common sense.

A prevalent trait I have noticed with these academic types.
I think it's more that they think this stuff doesn't apply to them.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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chemistry said:
It never ceases to amaze me how dim people are; how did he not think he could be ‘caught’ and how bad it would look when we was?!
He knew he might get caught but knew there would be no punishment given his position and proximity to Boris, there is also a handy excuse in that they needed childcare help and his parents happen to have a spare building Cummings could stay in and not meet them, that the children were potentially spreading the virus too seems to be a moot point.

Acura, Cummings, both being swept under the carpet as “bigger issues” need to be resolved and the Tory faithful mutter and murmur but just accept that at least Corbin didn’t win....

Randy Winkman

16,016 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Ratski83 said:
chemistry said:
It never ceases to amaze me how dim people are; how did he not think he could be ‘caught’ and how bad it would look when we was?!
This. He comes up with some interesting stuff on his blog and is obviously highly intelligent but seems to lack any common sense.

A prevalent trait I have noticed with these academic types.
And he wants more of these "do your own thing" people in government.

grumbledoak

31,499 posts

232 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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GT03ROB said:
I think it's more that they think this stuff doesn't apply to them.
It usually doesn't.

We have allowed a situation where almost everyone in the decision making process is totally insulated from the consequences of their decisions.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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grumbledoak said:
It usually doesn't.

We have allowed a situation where almost everyone in the decision making process is totally insulated from the consequences of their decisions.
And this in a nutshell is why we have lockdown.
No risk to decision makers and life as normal

V8fan

6,244 posts

267 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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grumbledoak said:
It usually doesn't.

We have allowed a situation where almost everyone in the decision making process is totally insulated from the consequences of their decisions.
He isn't giving out health advice to the public like Scotland's former Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood and leading scientist Prof Neil Ferguson, who was advising the government.

Non-story, really from the desperate press. I see they are no longer going to publish circulation figures, because they are in the toilet.

Randy Winkman

16,016 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Perhaps he will now get "moved sideways"? Is that OK under lock-down?

GT03ROB

13,207 posts

220 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Randy Winkman said:
Perhaps he will now get "moved sideways"? Is that OK under lock-down?
provided it's at least 2m sideways..... yes

Eric Mc

121,777 posts

264 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Hippea said:
He’s an unelected advisor, I can’t see how he’s held accountable in any way.

I’m struggling to see how they can make this go away, it’s not like they can just keep him away from the public eye to make people forget as he works in the shadows as it is.
Parliamentary rules state that advisors ARE accountable - to the minister who appointed them. So Boris is the one he is accountable to. And Boris is accountable to us - as an elected MP.

Eric Mc

121,777 posts

264 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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Hippea said:
Sambucket said:
Just ignore it? Boris isn't doing interviews , doesn't need to. Where is the leverage? There are too many other fires to put out.

I'm not a tory, just to be clear!
The ignore it and hope it goes away strategy does seem to be working quite well for Boris at the moment.
Boris has been working off a stored up bank of public sympathy (which may be running out - but not yet).

Cummings has no such bank of sympathy. In fact, on the sympathy bank front, he's already operating on an overdraft.

Eric Mc

121,777 posts

264 months

Saturday 23rd May 2020
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V8fan said:
He isn't giving out health advice to the public like Scotland's former Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood and leading scientist Prof Neil Ferguson, who was advising the government.

Non-story, really from the desperate press. I see they are no longer going to publish circulation figures, because they are in the toilet.
We don't know what advice he is giving. We DO know that he sat in on the SAGE meetings. What was the point of an advisor attending these health meetings?

I would expect he had quite an important role in formulating government policy on the response to Covid 19 - including the lockdown rules which he seems to have assumed just applied to the "little people" and not to important people like him.