US Riots

[techguyone]

The only thing I could see wrong with the video was firing like 2,000,000 rounds into him,. 3 each would have been sufficient.

[red_slr]

techguyone said:

The only thing I could see wrong with the video was firing like 2,000,000 rounds into him,. 3 each would have been sufficient.

14 shots total. I don't think that was excessive given there were 2 officers and there was no way for them to know how many the other fired, if they had a malfunction, how many shots hit etc etc.

Shooting at a moving target, whilst moving yourself and in a high stress situation at a reasonable distance I would not like to take a chance on how many of those shots actually hit the target in a meaningful way until the target goes down and stays down.

[amusingduck]

g4ry13 said:

Single parent families and growing up without a father figure to keep them in line through childhood.

Having two parents is white culture, you silly billy



https://web.archive.org/web/20200716001528/https:/...

Imagine being so woke that you attribute hard work and two parents to white people. Mind boggling.

[Carl_Manchester]

Here is the info on the man that was shot by police. He had a fairly lengthy criminal history.

I did look on CNN but it’s not being covered.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61859

[Pan Pan Pan]

Dagnir said:

It's called suicide by cop I believe.

It could also be called martyrdom, It seems he deliberately gave his life, so that his friends could all have a new TV, microwave, fridge freezer etc FOC.

[g4ry13]

Carl_Manchester said:

Here is the info on the man that was shot by police. He had a fairly lengthy criminal history.

I did look on CNN but it’s not being covered.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61859

I wonder why....

There's also the Karon Hylton story. He was riding a moped without a helmet, fleeing the police and crashed into a car and died. The police are being blamed for his death of course but all could have been avoided if he just stopped?

[Dr Doofenshmirtz]

I do wonder if these people deliberately get themselves shot taking one for the team, so their mates can raid the local Footlocker and beauty shop for free stuff?

[amusingduck]

techguyone said:

The only thing I could see wrong with the video was firing like 2,000,000 rounds into him,. 3 each would have been sufficient.

Maybe incidents like this is why? This guy takes ~20 bullets before dropping

warning: extremely graphic
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/j...

[AJL308]

Dr Doofenshmirtz said:

I do wonder if these people deliberately get themselves shot taking one for the team, so their mates can raid the local Footlocker and beauty shop for free stuff?

Off his tits, most likely.

[R Mutt]

amusingduck said:

g4ry13 said:

Single parent families and growing up without a father figure to keep them in line through childhood.

Having two parents is white culture, you silly billy



https://web.archive.org/web/20200716001528/https:/...

Imagine being so woke that you attribute hard work and two parents to white people. Mind boggling.

Many of those things are positive.

Presumably categorising a 'Protestant work ethic' is a valid stereotype while identifying the opposite let's say Catholic, or 'Mañana' is not.

Does this not imply that others lack that work ethic but it's unacceptable to address it and that any expectations or standards are merely a Western ideal therefore they should be rejected?

I'm from a single parent family so I try to be more objective on the subject but assuming it holds some correlation to delinquency and to dismiss that as a just a cultural difference is inadequate. I would say simply that for these fathers of children through various mothers there is a smaller downside to the child's actions if the father is absent.

Of course the funny thing is that the white liberal activists are a bit behind in still denying any associating between a racial group and what might be deemed negative traits while hese groups it seems have taken the next step in declaring them simply Western ideals.

[JagLover]

Carl_Manchester said:

Here is the info on the man that was shot by police. He had a fairly lengthy criminal history.

I did look on CNN but it’s not being covered.

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61859

Some of the reporting is just mind boggling.

Using a highschool graduation photo for a grown man, and violent criminal, with over a dozen police mugshots I mean come on.

What do the media even want in any case?. If the police are unable to ever interact with Black criminals then the most likely outcome is racial segregation. Is that what the media would prefer?. Some logical reason for the way they report these cases would be appreciated.

[Gadgetmac]

rambo19 said:

red_slr said:

Bonkers isn't it. Basically gave him every chance to drop the knife. Well inside the 21 foot rule most of the time.

And the armchair experts will come along and say 'why did'nt they shoot him in the leg'.....................

Looking at that video why didn't they taser him? In the UK he'd have been tasered.

[amusingduck]

Gadgetmac said:

Looking at that video why didn't they taser him? In the UK he'd have been tasered.

Tasers aren't always effective, check the other video I posted, in that case the taser was virtually useless

[Gadgetmac]

amusingduck said:

Gadgetmac said:

Looking at that video why didn't they taser him? In the UK he'd have been tasered.

Tasers aren't always effective, check the other video I posted, in that case the taser was virtually useless

That's not an argument. If it were the US police wouldn't have Tasers at all. From what I've read it's the fact that the Police went straight for their guns and didn't bother with their issued Tasers that concerns people in this instance.

If you're not going to use them why have them? It's not like they aren't trained in their use.

[g4ry13]

Gadgetmac said:

amusingduck said:

Gadgetmac said:

Looking at that video why didn't they taser him? In the UK he'd have been tasered.

Tasers aren't always effective, check the other video I posted, in that case the taser was virtually useless

That's not an argument. If it were the US police wouldn't have Tasers at all. From what I've read it's the fact that the Police went straight for their guns and didn't bother with their issued Tasers that concerns people in this instance.

If you're not going to use them why have them? It's not like they aren't trained in their use.

How many shots do you get with a taser?

If it's a case that officers get one or two shots with a taser, then the consequences of missing and then having a person with a record of assaulting people with weapons come at you I think it would be preferable to be holding a gun in that situation than a discharged taser which is now useless.

[Hobnobgti]

Because if you go straight for your Taser and it fails, you're not going to go 'never mind' and put it away and draw for a firearm instead. You'll have been stabbed/shot by then.

[Greendubber]

Gadgetmac said:

amusingduck said:

Gadgetmac said:

Looking at that video why didn't they taser him? In the UK he'd have been tasered.

Tasers aren't always effective, check the other video I posted, in that case the taser was virtually useless

That's not an argument. If it were the US police wouldn't have Tasers at all. From what I've read it's the fact that the Police went straight for their guns and didn't bother with their issued Tasers that concerns people in this instance.

If you're not going to use them why have them? It's not like they aren't trained in their use.

It's a reason not to use it though. The Male with the knife is clearly going for the officers, a Taser wont work every time, I'm sure it's less than 50% of the time actually yet people think they're the best thing since sliced bread. They're a great tool but are severely limited.

When faced with those odds I'd suggest they're perfectly justified to use their firearms over a taser that might stop him but also might not make a bit of difference.

[andy_s]

"11 people shot while looting in Philadelphia so far since last night. “Looters were shooting looters.” “50 yr old man that had his car filled then was carjacked and had all his stolem stiff [sic] re-stolen from him” from @PhillyPolice on scene of looting tell FOX 29. @FOX29philly "

[red_slr]

andy_s said:

"11 people shot while looting in Philadelphia so far since last night. “Looters were shooting looters.” “50 yr old man that had his car filled then was carjacked and had all his stolem stiff [sic] re-stolen from him” from @PhillyPolice on scene of looting tell FOX 29. @FOX29philly "

Re-stolen. Brilliant.

[Gadgetmac]

Greendubber said:

Gadgetmac said:

amusingduck said:

Gadgetmac said:

Looking at that video why didn't they taser him? In the UK he'd have been tasered.

Tasers aren't always effective, check the other video I posted, in that case the taser was virtually useless

That's not an argument. If it were the US police wouldn't have Tasers at all. From what I've read it's the fact that the Police went straight for their guns and didn't bother with their issued Tasers that concerns people in this instance.

If you're not going to use them why have them? It's not like they aren't trained in their use.

It's a reason not to use it though. The Male with the knife is clearly going for the officers, a Taser wont work every time, I'm sure it's less than 50% of the time actually yet people think they're the best thing since sliced bread. They're a great tool but are severely limited.

When faced with those odds I'd suggest they're perfectly justified to use their firearms over a taser that might stop him but also might not make a bit of difference.

Re the bit in bold above I don't believe it is. The Taser has been issued for these kind of situations, he didn't have a firearm he had a knife and was at enough of a distance to be tasered. His colleague had a gun aimed at the guy and could have taken him down if the taser had failed to stop him. The knifeman did not run at the officers giving them no time to use the taser.

Rightly or wrongly incidents like this are just asking for people to questions the police officers actions.