Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 4)

Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 4)

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768

13,600 posts

95 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Tuna said:
bhstewie said:
Are they a functioning and a useful supplement to post-it notes? Apparently so.
Dancing on the head of a pin there.

article said:
How effective they are remains to be seen, but they are certainly functioning
I seem to recall reading it would need a level of market penetration that was about the same level as Facebook is at, after 10 years.

Red 4

10,744 posts

186 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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s2art said:
Red 4 said:
Tuna said:
Where have I ever said PPE wasn't an issue? The problem is we've not actually got a proper picture of what (and where, and when) provision of PPE has been an issue. So we get rumour and claim and counter claim - I honestly don't know exactly what went wrong, where or why - and that is the media's job. Unless suddenly everyone on Pistonheads is either psychic or an expert, we need people with access to this information to find it out and make sense of it.
Boris' untold £millions that he was going to give to the NHS following his Brexit victory never arrived.
Remember the slogan on the big bus ?

They prioritised other stuff over stocks of PPE.
Wrong. The NHS got more than was promised.
Are you saying The NHS has not been in decline for the past 10 years with no real increase in budgets despite ever increasing demand ?

You do know the promised additional £20 billion is spread over 5 years, don't you ?

That's £4 billion a year which just about covers inflation.

xstian

1,966 posts

145 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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s2art said:
Wrong. The NHS got more than was promised.
That's debatable.

tim0409

4,354 posts

158 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Red 4 said:
Are you saying The NHS has not been in decline for the past 10 years with no real increase in budgets despite ever increasing demand ?
The NHS budget has increased above inflation over the last 10 years.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

170 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Red 4 said:
I think Boris will go much further than that and proclaim that UK government has done a wonderful job of managing the crisis.
In other words he will lie. Again.
Not a lying politician! I don’t believe it.

Mrr T

12,152 posts

264 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Tuna said:
...but then, I gave May the benefit of the doubt for a year or so, and look where that got us. roflrofl
laugh

7 months 17 Jan 2017 Lancaster House speech proved it to me.

Edited by Mrr T on Sunday 5th July 15:32

Red 4

10,744 posts

186 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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tim0409 said:
Red 4 said:
Are you saying The NHS has not been in decline for the past 10 years with no real increase in budgets despite ever increasing demand ?
The NHS budget has increased above inflation over the last 10 years.
Wrong.

Additionally, did you know we have a low spend per capita on health compared to many of our European neighbours ?
The NHS is very far from the cream of medical services that many would have you believe.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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https://youtu.be/rdJwImbWZ_s

Hopefully we see some real progress with this as our countries are so close culturally.

Tuna

19,930 posts

283 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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bhstewie said:
But the idea that we should be waiting 5 years or until there's an inquiry to understand why we had nurses being told to re-use single use PPE is for the birds.
Again, misrepresenting what I've said. Why bother discussing the news if you're too busy defending sacred cows and complaining when people don't agree with you?

768

13,600 posts

95 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Red 4 said:
You do know the promised additional £20 billion is spread over 5 years, don't you ?

That's £4 billion a year which just about covers inflation.
I missed those, what are the inflation figures for the next 5 years?

Gecko1978

9,603 posts

156 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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768 said:
Red 4 said:
You do know the promised additional £20 billion is spread over 5 years, don't you ?

That's £4 billion a year which just about covers inflation.
I missed those, what are the inflation figures for the next 5 years?
Haha given COVID costs of goods an services probably 5%, your and everyone's wages 0%, tax 5% etc.

More money for the NHS is just emperor's new cloths no amount of money is ever enough.

Best thing would be to change people's life style choices.

markyb_lcy

9,904 posts

61 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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jakesmith said:
Red 4 said:
I think Boris will go much further than that and proclaim that UK government has done a wonderful job of managing the crisis.
In other words he will lie. Again.
Not a lying politician! I don’t believe it.
So politicians lie, and (some, arguable many) always have done, and always will do. Does that make it acceptable for the current crop to do so?

Derek Smith

45,512 posts

247 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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jamoor said:
https://youtu.be/rdJwImbWZ_s

Hopefully we see some real progress with this as our countries are so close culturally.
That's about 10% of the EU by GPD. Nearly there then.

frisbee

4,956 posts

109 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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768 said:
Red 4 said:
You do know the promised additional £20 billion is spread over 5 years, don't you ?

That's £4 billion a year which just about covers inflation.
I missed those, what are the inflation figures for the next 5 years?
Depending on which Covid-19 thread you go by, either eleven thousand billion and seven percent or zero because we'll all be dead!

DeltonaS

3,707 posts

137 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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jamoor said:
https://youtu.be/rdJwImbWZ_s

Hopefully we see some real progress with this as our countries are so close culturally.
Really, well in that case maybe they'll send all the inmates back than.

A true Brexiteer, Empire and all that, cloud9

England has never been so submissive to it's past as today.

One thing's for sure though; demograpically it's a lot further away than culturally.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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DeltonaS said:
jamoor said:
https://youtu.be/rdJwImbWZ_s

Hopefully we see some real progress with this as our countries are so close culturally.
Really, well in that case maybe they'll send all the inmates back than.

A true Brexiteer, Empire and all that, cloud9

England has never been so submissive to it's past as today.

One thing's for sure though; demograpically it's a lot further away than culturally.
I'm actually a remainer hehe

However we have to use the hand we have been dealt to the best of our abilities. I don't see whats submissive about going into a FTA that includes labour with countries that we have ALOT in common with and that are to the same level of industrialisation as we are. There is practically zero chance of economic migrants going in any direction from these countries.

Edited by jamoor on Sunday 5th July 22:22

T6 vanman

3,055 posts

98 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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Red 4 said:
tim0409 said:
Red 4 said:
Are you saying The NHS has not been in decline for the past 10 years with no real increase in budgets despite ever increasing demand ?
The NHS budget has increased above inflation over the last 10 years.
Wrong.

Additionally, did you know we have a low spend per capita on health compared to many of our European neighbours ?
The NHS is very far from the cream of medical services that many would have you believe.
Tim, The website fullfact's is your friend here thumbup
https://fullfact.org/health/spending-english-nhs/

768 said:
Red 4 said:
You do know the promised additional £20 billion is spread over 5 years, don't you ?

That's £4 billion a year which just about covers inflation.
I missed those, what are the inflation figures for the next 5 years?
Fullfacts again
Quote "Last year the government announced that an additional £20.5 billion in real terms will be made available for the NHS in England by 2023/24"

Red4 …. Real terms means allowing for inflation thumbup

Tuna

19,930 posts

283 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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jamoor said:
I'm actually a remainer hehe

However we have to use the hand we have been dealt to the best of our abilities. I don't see whats submissive about going into a FTA that includes labour with countries that we have ALOT in common with and that are to the same level of industrialisation as we are. There is practically zero chance of economic migrants going in any direction from these countries.
Deltona has a bit of a problem with anyone wanting Brexit to come out ok. hehe

gooner1

10,223 posts

178 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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DeltonaS said:
jamoor said:
https://youtu.be/rdJwImbWZ_s

Hopefully we see some real progress with this as our countries are so close culturally.
Really, well in that case maybe they'll send all the inmates back than.

A true Brexiteer, Empire and all that, cloud9

England has never been so submissive to it's past as today.

One thing's for sure though; demograpically it's a lot further away than culturally.
Talking of the NHS, Covid and all that, I never did see your reply to Denmark’s oldest newspaper story re sending known faulty
respirators to Italy. Did I miss it or did you just dismiss it?

skwdenyer

16,176 posts

239 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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tim0409 said:
Red 4 said:
Are you saying The NHS has not been in decline for the past 10 years with no real increase in budgets despite ever increasing demand ?
The NHS budget has increased above inflation over the last 10 years.
Even if that’s true, how has the spend *per capita* trended over 10 years? That’s basically the only number that matters.
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