Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 4)
Discussion
skwdenyer said:
Even if that’s true, how has the spend *per capita* trended over 10 years? That’s basically the only number that matters.
No not if the requirement has changed or the population size has changed significantly enough to affect economies of scale or if the cost base has changed significantly enough to alter the deliverables at a price point. Spend as a percentage of GDP is commonly used as it at least encompasses some degree of staying in kilter with the macro economic Situation and I believe that has fallen slightly.
jamoor said:
https://youtu.be/rdJwImbWZ_s
Hopefully we see some real progress with this as our countries are so close culturally.
Definitely some good news. Hopefully we see some real progress with this as our countries are so close culturally.
Leaving the EU does mean the U.K. can rebuild relationships with Australia NZ and Canada etc that all got abandoned but have obviously now got their own regional trading partners.
“Freedom of movement opportunities” sounds interesting. The Australians had ruled out freedom of movement or visa free travel back in January. Is this a change in policy or will “some freedom of movement opportunities” actually mean you need a visa like now.
skwdenyer said:
tim0409 said:
Red 4 said:
Are you saying The NHS has not been in decline for the past 10 years with no real increase in budgets despite ever increasing demand ?
The NHS budget has increased above inflation over the last 10 years.As an analogy, if I do a price comparison for broadband I will get any number of prices for exactly the same service. As it happens I'm paying way over the odds for Virgin, but that doesn't mean I get a better service. In fact would say virgins service is dire.
Smiler. said:
Seems good value for that kind of important junior management position, I expect you’d get a lot more than that doing a similar role in the private sector or for someone big like the BBC. They’ve probably earned the NHS much more in money they’ve saved the NHS. They have to pay those kind of salaries to get the right kind of graduates these days.
I’m surprised by the levels of jealousy on here TBH, I thought people approved of the kind of market forces that set these salaries.
El stovey said:
Smiler. said:
Seems good value for that kind of important junior management position, I expect you’d get a lot more than that doing a similar role in the private sector or for someone big like the BBC. They’ve probably earned the NHS much more in money they’ve saved the NHS. They have to pay those kind of salaries to get the right kind of graduates these days.
I’m surprised by the levels of jealousy on here TBH, I thought people approved of the kind of market forces that set these salaries.
Of the 3/4 posts on the subject were any of them based on jealousy?
Was there a particular comment/s made that made you form that opinion?
El stovey said:
Seems good value for that kind of important junior management position, I expect you’d get a lot more than that doing a similar role in the private sector or for someone big like the BBC. They’ve probably earned the NHS much more in money they’ve saved the NHS.
They have to pay those kind of salaries to get the right kind of graduates these days.
I’m surprised by the levels of jealousy on here TBH, I thought people approved of the kind of market forces that set these salaries.
Top trolling.They have to pay those kind of salaries to get the right kind of graduates these days.
I’m surprised by the levels of jealousy on here TBH, I thought people approved of the kind of market forces that set these salaries.
don'tbesilly said:
Really?
Of the 3/4 posts on the subject were any of them based on jealousy?
Was there a particular comment/s made that made you form that opinion?
Well it all sounds a bit socialist, complaining about other people’s salaries. It’s the old politics of envy thing, but surprising to be coming from people usually so against that kind of behaviour. Of the 3/4 posts on the subject were any of them based on jealousy?
Was there a particular comment/s made that made you form that opinion?
If the NHS wants the best people, they have to pay accordingly. In the private sector that role would likely pay a lot more. Seems good value tbh.
El stovey said:
Smiler. said:
Seems good value for that kind of important junior management position, I expect you’d get a lot more than that doing a similar role in the private sector or for someone big like the BBC. They’ve probably earned the NHS much more in money they’ve saved the NHS. They have to pay those kind of salaries to get the right kind of graduates these days.
I’m surprised by the levels of jealousy on here TBH, I thought people approved of the kind of market forces that set these salaries.
Salary does look low if they are hoping to compete with the Private Sector for talent. Presume that the package including pension and benefits will compensate?
El stovey said:
don'tbesilly said:
Really?
Of the 3/4 posts on the subject were any of them based on jealousy?
Was there a particular comment/s made that made you form that opinion?
Well it all sounds a bit socialist, complaining about other people’s salaries. It’s the old politics of envy thing, but surprising to be coming from people usually so against that kind of behaviour. Of the 3/4 posts on the subject were any of them based on jealousy?
Was there a particular comment/s made that made you form that opinion?
If the NHS wants the best people, they have to pay accordingly. In the private sector that role would likely pay a lot more. Seems good value tbh.
In my industry (systems engineering), one can earn significantly more than 75k without even being responsible for a single other person.
Smiler. said:
I for one would love a whacking salary for a non-job, but there's no way I could woke out how to do it.
Assistant Director of a department is a "non-job"?Regardless of what you think about diversity and such, this position will need to (assist in) managing staff and budgets, that's not a non-job, is it?
If you have the skills and experience and you want the job, why don't you apply instead of ridiculing those who might?
markyb_lcy said:
Smiler. said:
I for one would love a whacking salary for a non-job, but there's no way I could woke out how to do it.
Assistant Director of a department is a "non-job"?Regardless of what you think about diversity and such, this position will need to (assist in) managing staff and budgets, that's not a non-job, is it?
If you have the skills and experience and you want the job, why don't you apply instead of ridiculing those who might?
Bearing in mind her current hospital has circa 80% BAME staff and patients.......I never really got any sort of straightforward answer unfortunately.
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