Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 4)

[Tuna]

Unknown_User said:

It’s utterly staggering to see the Dom Cum/Boris ultras rounding on care workers, just so their political idols don’t appear compromised.

What planet are you on?

[jakesmith]

Unknown_User said:

It’s utterly staggering to see the Dom Cum/Boris ultras rounding on care workers, just so their political idols don’t appear compromised.

It's utterly cringe to see the same old tossers tutting and condemning horrid Boris at each & every opportunity regardless of the actual facts of the situation, and to accuse anyone questioning them of being biased & blinkered, without the slightest hint of the utter hypocrisy of their position.
The fact that the anti-Boris brigade are now aligned with some of the most obvious trolls that infest this forum seems lost on the poor souls too, bless.

[S1KRR]

Vanden Saab said:

In three months care home owners have gone from capitalist pigs making fortunes from old people and paying care workers a pittance to heroes who have done nothing wrong during the Covid crisis. If the politicalising wasn't so transparently nasty around such a serious subject it would be amusing...Straight out of the momentum caterwauling playbook.

The interview on PM (R4) with a care home owner, was a real low. Davis to his credit did ask "not you specifically, but with hindsight do you think you could have done anything different?"

Long answer, short.

"No, we did everything right and it was all the Governments fault for not telling us what to do"

[gooner1]

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

[Crackie]

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Some, too many or most guys and trolls?

[robemcdonald]

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Well he didn’t say care workers. He said “too many care homes dint follow the procedures” if he wasn’t aiming the comment at the people working in the care homes perhaps he thinks it was the actual buildings that didn’t follow the guidance.

[Unknown_User]

robemcdonald said:

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Well he didn’t say care workers. He said “too many care homes dint follow the procedures” if he wasn’t aiming the comment at the people working in the care homes perhaps he thinks it was the actual buildings that didn’t follow the guidance.

Must be all the fault of the buildings eh lads.....

[markyb_lcy]

Unknown_User said:

Must be all the fault of the buildings eh lads.....

Boris and the government tried to explain the procedures to them, but it was like talking to a brick wall.

[jakesmith]

Unknown_User said:

robemcdonald said:

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Well he didn’t say care workers. He said “too many care homes dint follow the procedures” if he wasn’t aiming the comment at the people working in the care homes perhaps he thinks it was the actual buildings that didn’t follow the guidance.

Must be all the fault of the buildings eh lads.....

The hollow laughter of a fool

[Alucidnation]

robemcdonald said:

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Well he didn’t say care workers. He said “too many care homes dint follow the procedures” if he wasn’t aiming the comment at the people working in the care homes perhaps he thinks it was the actual buildings that didn’t follow the guidance.

Or, now i am only guessing, the people/owners in charge of the care homes, and not explicitly the carers.

[gooner1]

So I take it from the “replies” so far received that Boris didn’t mention care workers at all.
I must say that all the accusations from the usual suspects came as no surprise! I just didn’t realise they had so many groupies.

Anyway, now that unpleasant accusation has been proven to be just so much BS, I wonder if any of the now apologetic accusers
think our PM may have been referring to some, but by no means all owners and/or managers.

[robemcdonald]

Alucidnation said:

robemcdonald said:

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Well he didn’t say care workers. He said “too many care homes dint follow the procedures” if he wasn’t aiming the comment at the people working in the care homes perhaps he thinks it was the actual buildings that didn’t follow the guidance.

Or, now i am only guessing, the people/owners in charge of the care homes, and not explicitly the carers.

That’s right you’re guessing. Exactly the same as the posters suggesting it was aimed at the care workers.

As we all know the master wordsmith Boris chooses what he says very carefully. In this case people hear what they choose to hear and he and his supporters get to deny he said anything because technically he didn’t....

[Alucidnation]

robemcdonald said:

Alucidnation said:

robemcdonald said:

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Well he didn’t say care workers. He said “too many care homes dint follow the procedures” if he wasn’t aiming the comment at the people working in the care homes perhaps he thinks it was the actual buildings that didn’t follow the guidance.

Or, now i am only guessing, the people/owners in charge of the care homes, and not explicitly the carers.

That’s right you’re guessing. Exactly the same as the posters suggesting it was aimed at the care workers.

As we all know the master wordsmith Boris chooses what he says very carefully. In this case people hear what they choose to hear and he and his supporters get to deny he said anything because technically he didn’t....

Do carers own care homes?

Are they all in charge of all the decisions?

[robemcdonald]

gooner1 said:

So I take it from the “replies” so far received that Boris didn’t mention care workers at all.
I must say that all the accusations from the usual suspects came as no surprise! I just didn’t realise they had so many groupies.

Anyway, now that unpleasant accusation has been proven to be just so much BS, I wonder if any of the now apologetic accusers
think our PM may have been referring to some, but by no means all owners and/or managers.

Or the actual buildings....

[Tuna]

robemcdonald said:

As we all know the master wordsmith Boris chooses what he says very carefully.

News to me. I thought he was a careless buffoon, according to the same crowd on here.

Quantum Boris - both dumb and smart, depending on which they find the most offensive.

[robemcdonald]

Alucidnation said:

robemcdonald said:

Alucidnation said:

robemcdonald said:

gooner1 said:

gooner1 said:

For all those claiming our PM literally blamed care workers, could you please post the actual part of that speech for the benefit
of those that have not seen it. TIA.

Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 7th July 21:57

C’mon guys and trolls, my request is a simple one and should be relatively easy to comply with, no?

Well he didn’t say care workers. He said “too many care homes dint follow the procedures” if he wasn’t aiming the comment at the people working in the care homes perhaps he thinks it was the actual buildings that didn’t follow the guidance.

Or, now i am only guessing, the people/owners in charge of the care homes, and not explicitly the carers.

That’s right you’re guessing. Exactly the same as the posters suggesting it was aimed at the care workers.

As we all know the master wordsmith Boris chooses what he says very carefully. In this case people hear what they choose to hear and he and his supporters get to deny he said anything because technically he didn’t....

Do carers own care homes?

Are they all in charge of all the decisions?

Are care home owners in charge of all the decisions? Surely they have to follow rules and guidance set out for them by the government.

But if you actually look at the detail the government were putting hundreds of new pieces of new guidance out.
Most of the guidance hadn’t really been thought through from an operational perspective.

You also have to remember there was / is a general shortage of PPE. Was the expectation that care homes would be able to obtain something that even the NHS couldn’t obtain?

I suppose if you use a scatter gun approach to new rules and regulations and make some of them impossible to achieve you have a ready made scapegoat when the time comes.

Our PM would never do that.

Oh, wait...

[robemcdonald]

Tuna said:

robemcdonald said:

As we all know the master wordsmith Boris chooses what he says very carefully.

News to me. I thought he was a careless buffoon, according to the same crowd on here.

Quantum Boris - both dumb and smart, depending on which they find the most offensive.

I haven’t said he was dumb.

[newlad]

What do the Johnson fan boys make of this?

From the Daily Telegraph, by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, international business editor:

Johnson and his cabinet should be torn down. After months of gesticulating gestures, camera focused on a clapping "I love the NHS, I love our carers" propaganda from Downing Street. Yesterday it was time to change clapping for frontline workers to, attacking frontline workers. What Johnson fails to see, is that by blaming carers and care home managers, he is blaming the NHS who saved his life. Nothing happens in a vacumn.

We have all been failed by the ERG Libertarian Brexiteer government ministers who would like you to believe they have our best interest at heart. Every step taken and travelled, has been one where death followed. Of course we would see deaths, but so many? No. World-Beating death rate. Oh what success and greater than 20,000 deaths being a "good outcome".

I will never forgive this government and the men and women who have played with the lives of innocent people. It does not matter what new measures they put in place now, they ignored all the warnings and still they scapegoat.

They stood looking out to sea while wondering why the waves and the sea vanished. The failed to read and interpret all the signs. And then, the tsunami hit it became necessary to pile the blame onto someone. They failed to place a protective ring around the nation, not just the elderly who were left to die. An unforgivable act against humanity.  And the lies and deaths have not stopped.

We are all fodder. Cummings and Johnson must go. No more gaslighting the nation and that is what they are doing when they blame carers for the deaths of the elderly. Men and women who cared so much, they left their families to reside with residents to keep their families safe. Many, as we have come to know, died as a result of the sacrifice they made. So let's scapegoat them now, I mean, they are dead and the dead can't speak. But get this, we can. Call Johnson out and his cabinet. They are all beyond contempt. Let's remember the sacrifice of many. Many families without a mother farther, uncle or aunt because they gave more than what was required of themselves. We can be their voices.

Yes, not the Guardian or Owen Jones, or any other of your favourite lefty bogeymen, the Daily Telegraph, FFS!

[gooner1]

newlad said:

What do the Johnson fan boys make of this?

From the Daily Telegraph, by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, international business editor:

Johnson and his cabinet should be torn down. After months of gesticulating gestures, camera focused on a clapping "I love the NHS, I love our carers" propaganda from Downing Street. Yesterday it was time to change clapping for frontline workers to, attacking frontline workers. What Johnson fails to see, is that by blaming carers and care home managers, he is blaming the NHS who saved his life. Nothing happens in a vacumn.

We have all been failed by the ERG Libertarian Brexiteer government ministers who would like you to believe they have our best interest at heart. Every step taken and travelled, has been one where death followed. Of course we would see deaths, but so many? No. World-Beating death rate. Oh what success and greater than 20,000 deaths being a "good outcome".

I will never forgive this government and the men and women who have played with the lives of innocent people. It does not matter what new measures they put in place now, they ignored all the warnings and still they scapegoat.

They stood looking out to sea while wondering why the waves and the sea vanished. The failed to read and interpret all the signs. And then, the tsunami hit it became necessary to pile the blame onto someone. They failed to place a protective ring around the nation, not just the elderly who were left to die. An unforgivable act against humanity.  And the lies and deaths have not stopped.

We are all fodder. Cummings and Johnson must go. No more gaslighting the nation and that is what they are doing when they blame carers for the deaths of the elderly. Men and women who cared so much, they left their families to reside with residents to keep their families safe. Many, as we have come to know, died as a result of the sacrifice they made. So let's scapegoat them now, I mean, they are dead and the dead can't speak. But get this, we can. Call Johnson out and his cabinet. They are all beyond contempt. Let's remember the sacrifice of many. Many families without a mother farther, uncle or aunt because they gave more than what was required of themselves. We can be their voices.

Yes, not the Guardian or Owen Jones, or any other of your favourite lefty bogeymen, the Daily Telegraph, FFS!

Ah, lovely and right on time. You might just be the one who could point out where our PM blamed care workers employed by care homes or in the NHS for that matter.

[Alucidnation]

gooner1 said:

newlad said:

What do the Johnson fan boys make of this?

From the Daily Telegraph, by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, international business editor:

Johnson and his cabinet should be torn down. After months of gesticulating gestures, camera focused on a clapping "I love the NHS, I love our carers" propaganda from Downing Street. Yesterday it was time to change clapping for frontline workers to, attacking frontline workers. What Johnson fails to see, is that by blaming carers and care home managers, he is blaming the NHS who saved his life. Nothing happens in a vacumn.

We have all been failed by the ERG Libertarian Brexiteer government ministers who would like you to believe they have our best interest at heart. Every step taken and travelled, has been one where death followed. Of course we would see deaths, but so many? No. World-Beating death rate. Oh what success and greater than 20,000 deaths being a "good outcome".

I will never forgive this government and the men and women who have played with the lives of innocent people. It does not matter what new measures they put in place now, they ignored all the warnings and still they scapegoat.

They stood looking out to sea while wondering why the waves and the sea vanished. The failed to read and interpret all the signs. And then, the tsunami hit it became necessary to pile the blame onto someone. They failed to place a protective ring around the nation, not just the elderly who were left to die. An unforgivable act against humanity.  And the lies and deaths have not stopped.

We are all fodder. Cummings and Johnson must go. No more gaslighting the nation and that is what they are doing when they blame carers for the deaths of the elderly. Men and women who cared so much, they left their families to reside with residents to keep their families safe. Many, as we have come to know, died as a result of the sacrifice they made. So let's scapegoat them now, I mean, they are dead and the dead can't speak. But get this, we can. Call Johnson out and his cabinet. They are all beyond contempt. Let's remember the sacrifice of many. Many families without a mother farther, uncle or aunt because they gave more than what was required of themselves. We can be their voices.

Yes, not the Guardian or Owen Jones, or any other of your favourite lefty bogeymen, the Daily Telegraph, FFS!

Ah, lovely and right on time. You might just be the one who could point out where our PM blamed care workers employed by care homes or in the NHS for that matter.

None of them seem capable of answering that question it seems.