US presidential election 2020:Winner? Vol.2
Poll: US presidential election 2020:Winner? Vol.2
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Discussion
Vanden Saab said:
You seem to have missed the Republican approval... at 91% a rise of 6% or that his overall approval is unchanged from the previous poll, I cannot think why you would have left those figures out of your post...
It's why I post the links so you can look for yourself.No idea why you would try to make a political point about that.....
Interesting to look at the strategy and where trumps campaign is concentrating. Team trump now looking to see how they can limp across the line
The most telling sign of Trump’s defensive posture is his recent mammoth TV ad buys. The campaign is spending big to retain states he won in 2016 and to shore up support in places a Republican should already dominate, like Georgia or Florida’s Panhandle.
Gone are the days of forecasting a landslide victory, said one person close to the Trump campaign. The president’s team is now recasting its expectations to identify not where Trump can win more, but how he can lose less.
“We don’t need 306. We just need 270. We can lose Michigan and lose Pennsylvania and still win,” said a top Trump adviser, noting that a win in New Hampshire, combined with one in Nevada or New Mexico, would provide enough Electoral College support to prevent defeat even if Biden wins big in the industrial Midwest.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/05/donald-tr...
And an interesting point here: Polls taken around Independence Day in an election year are actually pretty highly correlated with the November results in incumbent contests. That means Trump is in a lot of trouble.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/05/politics/polls-...
With the polls showing trump is down 11-12% over Biden, it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with to reverse the trend.
He tried manufacturing dirt, that hasn't worked. He's tried claiming Biden is senile but thats backfired onto him, the virus is out of control and he now says "just learn to live with it", and last weeks delayed figures showed a rise in unemployment, but thats likely to be down now with two weeks continuous rise in CV-19 cases and states shutting down again.
Where does he go now, apart from playing golf? He's not coming across well
More than half of Americans (57%) use the word “arrogant” to describe the incumbent president. More than a third of respondents also picked “dishonest” (40%), “uncaring” (39%), “foolish” (also 39%), “strong” (36%) and “out of touch” (34%).
https://researchco.ca/2020/07/06/approval-trump-20...
The most telling sign of Trump’s defensive posture is his recent mammoth TV ad buys. The campaign is spending big to retain states he won in 2016 and to shore up support in places a Republican should already dominate, like Georgia or Florida’s Panhandle.
Gone are the days of forecasting a landslide victory, said one person close to the Trump campaign. The president’s team is now recasting its expectations to identify not where Trump can win more, but how he can lose less.
“We don’t need 306. We just need 270. We can lose Michigan and lose Pennsylvania and still win,” said a top Trump adviser, noting that a win in New Hampshire, combined with one in Nevada or New Mexico, would provide enough Electoral College support to prevent defeat even if Biden wins big in the industrial Midwest.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/05/donald-tr...
And an interesting point here: Polls taken around Independence Day in an election year are actually pretty highly correlated with the November results in incumbent contests. That means Trump is in a lot of trouble.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/05/politics/polls-...
With the polls showing trump is down 11-12% over Biden, it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with to reverse the trend.
He tried manufacturing dirt, that hasn't worked. He's tried claiming Biden is senile but thats backfired onto him, the virus is out of control and he now says "just learn to live with it", and last weeks delayed figures showed a rise in unemployment, but thats likely to be down now with two weeks continuous rise in CV-19 cases and states shutting down again.
Where does he go now, apart from playing golf? He's not coming across well
More than half of Americans (57%) use the word “arrogant” to describe the incumbent president. More than a third of respondents also picked “dishonest” (40%), “uncaring” (39%), “foolish” (also 39%), “strong” (36%) and “out of touch” (34%).
https://researchco.ca/2020/07/06/approval-trump-20...
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 7th July 07:32
This is interesting, look at this from the Trafalgar Group looking at Pennsylvania, where trump won by 48.2% of the vote in 2016
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ogy9usBPpSYOVTYil...
82.3% of the participation were white, 38.6% were aged 45-64, so you'd think the poll was slewed for trump supporters
yet they have Biden winning 48% to 42.7%
Some of the problems team trump are facing with an increasingly unpopular trump
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ogy9usBPpSYOVTYil...
82.3% of the participation were white, 38.6% were aged 45-64, so you'd think the poll was slewed for trump supporters
yet they have Biden winning 48% to 42.7%
Some of the problems team trump are facing with an increasingly unpopular trump
Diaper Don is not going to like this new Lincoln Project video. His paranoia is bad enough already!
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/12804575...
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/12804575...
unrepentant said:
Diaper Don is not going to like this new Lincoln Project video. His paranoia is bad enough already!
https://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/12804575...
The whispers ads are funhttps://twitter.com/projectlincoln/status/12804575...
The danger of Trump doing all the stupid election stuff now is that he won't be able to do it again nearer to voting time. I worry that, come November, even he will have run out of daft stuff to broadcast and that voters will come back to him. His best chance lies in him being as quiet as possible.
Blackpuddin said:
The danger of Trump doing all the stupid election stuff now is that he won't be able to do it again nearer to voting time. I worry that, come November, even he will have run out of daft stuff to broadcast and that voters will come back to him. His best chance lies in him being as quiet as possible.
Trump... Quiet? Whatever you're smoking, can I have some
On a serious note, Trump hasn't realised his opponent isn't Biden. In Australia we have a saying, the opposition does not win elections, government's lose them. Trump's opposition is Trump, specifically Trump over the last 4 years. His job is to convince voters that he's not done a terrible job and that the devil they know is better than the devil they don't. If a government has not done a terrible job this often gives the incumbent the advantage.
That is why his supporters are convincing me he's going to lose. They keep going on about Biden whilst ignoring the fact that Trump needs to face the Trump who's held office for the last 4 years in order to not lose.
Few of the Trump supporters (or the "not" Trump supporters) popping in here can give a cogent argument on why you'd vote Trump. Most just attack Biden whilst expecting us to ignore that Trump has done all the same wrong things. Attacking the opposition won't help Trump in the slightest which leads to another old cliche.
Bulls
t will get you to the top, but it can't keep you there. as posted on the other thread
More than half of Americans (57%) use the word “arrogant” to describe the incumbent president. More than a third of respondents also picked “dishonest” (40%), “uncaring” (39%), “foolish” (also 39%), “strong” (36%) and “out of touch” (34%).
https://researchco.ca/2020/07/06/approval-trump-20...
The most telling sign of Trump’s defensive posture is his recent mammoth TV ad buys. The campaign is spending big to retain states he won in 2016 and to shore up support in places a Republican should already dominate, like Georgia or Florida’s Panhandle.
Gone are the days of forecasting a landslide victory, said one person close to the Trump campaign. The president’s team is now recasting its expectations to identify not where Trump can win more, but how he can lose less.
“We don’t need 306. We just need 270. We can lose Michigan and lose Pennsylvania and still win,” said a top Trump adviser, noting that a win in New Hampshire, combined with one in Nevada or New Mexico, would provide enough Electoral College support to prevent defeat even if Biden wins big in the industrial Midwest.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/05/donald-tr...
More than half of Americans (57%) use the word “arrogant” to describe the incumbent president. More than a third of respondents also picked “dishonest” (40%), “uncaring” (39%), “foolish” (also 39%), “strong” (36%) and “out of touch” (34%).
https://researchco.ca/2020/07/06/approval-trump-20...
The most telling sign of Trump’s defensive posture is his recent mammoth TV ad buys. The campaign is spending big to retain states he won in 2016 and to shore up support in places a Republican should already dominate, like Georgia or Florida’s Panhandle.
Gone are the days of forecasting a landslide victory, said one person close to the Trump campaign. The president’s team is now recasting its expectations to identify not where Trump can win more, but how he can lose less.
“We don’t need 306. We just need 270. We can lose Michigan and lose Pennsylvania and still win,” said a top Trump adviser, noting that a win in New Hampshire, combined with one in Nevada or New Mexico, would provide enough Electoral College support to prevent defeat even if Biden wins big in the industrial Midwest.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/05/donald-tr...
captain_cynic said:
Blackpuddin said:
The danger of Trump doing all the stupid election stuff now is that he won't be able to do it again nearer to voting time. I worry that, come November, even he will have run out of daft stuff to broadcast and that voters will come back to him. His best chance lies in him being as quiet as possible.
Trump... Quiet? Whatever you're smoking, can I have some
On a serious note, Trump hasn't realised his opponent isn't Biden. In Australia we have a saying, the opposition does not win elections, government's lose them. Trump's opposition is Trump, specifically Trump over the last 4 years. His job is to convince voters that he's not done a terrible job and that the devil they know is better than the devil they don't. If a government has not done a terrible job this often gives the incumbent the advantage.
That is why his supporters are convincing me he's going to lose. They keep going on about Biden whilst ignoring the fact that Trump needs to face the Trump who's held office for the last 4 years in order to not lose.
Few of the Trump supporters (or the "not" Trump supporters) popping in here can give a cogent argument on why you'd vote Trump. Most just attack Biden whilst expecting us to ignore that Trump has done all the same wrong things. Attacking the opposition won't help Trump in the slightest which leads to another old cliche.
Bulls
t will get you to the top, but it can't keep you there. I really hope you're right on that last point but the evidence so far is that large chunks of the American public have an insatiable appetite for it. World Record Boat parade in support of Trump
It looks like there's a long way to go until November.
And how tf can the most advanced country in the World have so many gullible people in it.....?
Countdown said:
World Record Boat parade in support of Trump
It looks like there's a long way to go until November.
And how tf can the most advanced country in the World have so many gullible people in it.....?
It’s South Carolina. Cleetus and Jimbob love a nice parade. They were probably promised a lynching at the end. It looks like there's a long way to go until November.
And how tf can the most advanced country in the World have so many gullible people in it.....?
Rasmussen have trumps approval slightly higher than other polls
Trump Job Approval:
Approve 39%
Disapprove 58%
https://scottrasmussen.com/president-trumps-job-ap...
Perhaps most concerning for the president is that support is slipping among Republicans. The latest results show that just 80% of those in his party offer their approval. That’s down slightly from 84% in mid-June.
Surely not - trump said he had 96% approval.
Trump Job Approval:
Approve 39%
Disapprove 58%
https://scottrasmussen.com/president-trumps-job-ap...
Perhaps most concerning for the president is that support is slipping among Republicans. The latest results show that just 80% of those in his party offer their approval. That’s down slightly from 84% in mid-June.
Surely not - trump said he had 96% approval.
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 8th July 07:24
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