CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 3)
Discussion
monkfish1 said:
According to the interweb:
Definition of monomania
1: mental illness especially when limited in expression to one idea or area of thought
2: excessive concentration on a single object or idea
So most of the population is, potentially mentally ill? Makes sense given the behaviours i guess.
No - its the 2nd one.Definition of monomania
1: mental illness especially when limited in expression to one idea or area of thought
2: excessive concentration on a single object or idea
So most of the population is, potentially mentally ill? Makes sense given the behaviours i guess.
monkfish1 said:
ant1973 said:
Is there something wrong with the Governer of the Bank of England:-
"the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
Amazing how far detached from reality one can be."the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
They opened Pandora's Box with this nonsense and now of course don't know what to do. Good luck persuading the scientific community its safe - they would have us in our homes until next year with their hopelessly unbalanced view of the world.
There's a terrible crunch coming when they are going to have to admit defeat and face up to this by getting on with it.
1.4m extra people on universal credit so far and that's before the jobs bloodbath starts next month and beyond.
Elysium said:
It's about social conformity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_expe...
We have a natural predisposition toward it.
I'm shocked how low the percentage of sheep that demonstrated, I'd have guessed it was nearer to 80%https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_expe...
We have a natural predisposition toward it.
monkfish1 said:
JagLover said:
RSTurboPaul said:
ruggedscotty said:
monkfish1 said:
ruggedscotty said:
Id rather wear a mask than a ventilator....
What a dumb statementBy your logic, and assuming you are under 65 without and serious health conditions, i assume you are no longer driving? After all, statistically your are more likely to die in an RTA than from Covid.
i look forward to your confirmation of this.
Key facts:
In 2018, there were 1,784 people killed on the roads in Britain;
In 2018, 25,511 people were seriously injured on the roads in Britain;
In 2018, there was a total of 160,597 casualties of all severities in road traffic crashes;
In 2018, the highest number of fatalities were car users, both drivers and passengers, who accounted for 44% of road deaths;
In 2018, of the 1,784 road deaths, the majority (58%) occurred on rural roads.
so far covid-19 deaths have passed 45,000.
I didnt get the 2019 and 2020 figues so allowing for adjustments and such it is still a considerable increase....
Depending on the age of Scotty his chances of dying in a road accident in a year might well match his chances of dying from Covid-19. If he is 70+ then fair enough Covid-19 is more dangerous. If he is in twenties though.....
ant1973 said:
Is there something wrong with the Governer of the Bank of England:-
"the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
I'll bet he really believes it too, he will think of himself as a person with far more intellect than most of the population and he really does know best. He will then think that everyone else will do as he says and offer a groveling apology to him for being so stupid in the first place."the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
ant1973 said:
monkfish1 said:
ant1973 said:
Is there something wrong with the Governer of the Bank of England:-
"the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
Amazing how far detached from reality one can be."the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
They opened Pandora's Box with this nonsense and now of course don't know what to do. Good luck persuading the scientific community its safe - they would have us in our homes until next year with their hopelessly unbalanced view of the world.
There's a terrible crunch coming when they are going to have to admit defeat and face up to this by getting on with it.
1.4m extra people on universal credit so far and that's before the jobs bloodbath starts next month and beyond.
ant1973 said:
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
As I told my bosses, I'm more than happy to go back into the office... "once you remove all the hysterical restrictions you've put in place".I said that as I'm able to ride in so wouldn't need to wear a muzzle. Except now I can't pop out to get anything to eat or drink while I'm in the office so, no thanks Boris, I'll be staying at home.
ant1973 said:
Good luck persuading the scientific community its safe - they would have us in our homes until next year with their hopelessly unbalanced view of the world.
What do those scientists know, anyway ? I did some "research" on Youtube and it said the whole thing was a hoax.We've had enough of experts on this one now.
scottyp123 said:
ant1973 said:
Is there something wrong with the Governer of the Bank of England:-
"the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
I'll bet he really believes it too, he will think of himself as a person with far more intellect than most of the population and he really does know best. He will then think that everyone else will do as he says and offer a groveling apology to him for being so stupid in the first place."the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
monkfish1 said:
ant1973 said:
monkfish1 said:
ant1973 said:
Is there something wrong with the Governer of the Bank of England:-
"the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
Amazing how far detached from reality one can be."the Governor of the Bank of England said people's "fear" of commuting was "holding back the recovery".
Yes, that's it. It's fear pure and simple. Were it not for that, people would be desperate to get up at far too early o'clock for another soul crushing journey on public transport. Not for them is the more productive way of working which they have grown accustomed to, nor the improved the work life balance.... And then there is the joy of wearing a mask for the entire journey in a sweaty, non air-conditioned ancient train.
"He said he had been driving in to his office at the Bank every day for 17 weeks and had been shocked how empty London felt, with commuters and tourists staying away, adding that he is one of only around 80-100 staff working from the Bank each day out of thousands who work there".
Err, why is he surprised when the institution he heads is doing the very thing which is concerning him....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/15/boris-...
Meanwhile the combination of an unmade bed and a brain injury that is our PM (copyright Frankie Boyle) is now going to tell an incredulous nation that everyone needs to get back to work when he addresses the nation tomorrow. It's safe - honest- he will doubtless say. But sadly for him most of us are quite happy with our new way of life.
Nemesis approaches...
They opened Pandora's Box with this nonsense and now of course don't know what to do. Good luck persuading the scientific community its safe - they would have us in our homes until next year with their hopelessly unbalanced view of the world.
There's a terrible crunch coming when they are going to have to admit defeat and face up to this by getting on with it.
1.4m extra people on universal credit so far and that's before the jobs bloodbath starts next month and beyond.
It absolutely astounds me that the government think they can somehow force office workers to go back to the office when there doesn't appear to be any benefit to the worker or even the employee that they comply. I'm sorry but I couldn't care less if the cafes close to my office have to close. I'm saving a fortune on commuting costs, I'm spending more time with my children and I'm eating healthier food. All with a lower carbon footprint.
The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
mx5nut said:
ant1973 said:
Good luck persuading the scientific community its safe - they would have us in our homes until next year with their hopelessly unbalanced view of the world.
What do those scientists know, anyway ? I did some "research" on Youtube and it said the whole thing was a hoax.We've had enough of experts on this one now.
PeteinSQ said:
It absolutely astounds me that the government think they can somehow force office workers to go back to the office when there doesn't appear to be any benefit to the worker or even the employee that they comply. I'm sorry but I couldn't care less if the cafes close to my office have to close. I'm saving a fortune on commuting costs, I'm spending more time with my children and I'm eating healthier food. All with a lower carbon footprint.
The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
It's going to be hilarious to watch them do the mental gymnastics of what is now safe and unsafe in the next few days. It's not about safety for lots of people and its a shame the donuts have not realised this. Why is it better for us to commute from an environmental perspective, Boris...The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
JagLover said:
Elysium said:
This is a great article comparing Sweden to New York:
https://fee.org/articles/why-sweden-succeeded-in-f...
Yes a good article https://fee.org/articles/why-sweden-succeeded-in-f...
PeteinSQ said:
It absolutely astounds me that the government think they can somehow force office workers to go back to the office when there doesn't appear to be any benefit to the worker or even the employee that they comply. I'm sorry but I couldn't care less if the cafes close to my office have to close. I'm saving a fortune on commuting costs, I'm spending more time with my children and I'm eating healthier food. All with a lower carbon footprint.
The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
The only good thing I can envisage coming out of this is that I might never set foot on public transport again! 
PeteinSQ said:
It absolutely astounds me that the government think they can somehow force office workers to go back to the office when there doesn't appear to be any benefit to the worker or even the employee that they comply. I'm sorry but I couldn't care less if the cafes close to my office have to close. I'm saving a fortune on commuting costs, I'm spending more time with my children and I'm eating healthier food. All with a lower carbon footprint.
The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
I'm in two minds about this. I hate commuting as much as the next person and prior to the madness would work from home 2 days a week but realistically I think that's about the limit. The team dynamic is not the same if you're not getting together on a regular basis. Some things just work better in person.The economy is going to have to change and the city center will just have to go the same way that coal mines did.
grumbledoak said:
The only good thing I can envisage coming out of this is that I might never set foot on public transport again! I also plan to never go to a shop again either. Why spend time doing things you don’t enjoy unless you have to?
In reality, I know that I will do both of these things at some point in the future, but it certainly won’t be happening very often.
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