Cut traffic by blocking roads?
Discussion
Clever Lewisham decide that closing the roads to traffic is the best way to reduce traffic on that road - guess what'll happen to neighbouring roads
Motoring public has different ideas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-53...
Motoring public has different ideas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-53...
London's roads are gradually getting worse.
More and more 20 zones, speed bumps, lots of potholes, lots of bike lanes and bus lanes eating into the space, often poorly marked, often lacking speed limit repeater signs so you're never really confident what the limit is, never scrimping on speed cameras though!
Then the f
kers on pushbikes,petrol scooters, e-bikes and electric kids scooters going wherever they bloody like, buzzing around like friggin' wasps, delivery wagons that must have radar guidance because they drive and stop about a foot off your rear bumper!
More and more 20 zones, speed bumps, lots of potholes, lots of bike lanes and bus lanes eating into the space, often poorly marked, often lacking speed limit repeater signs so you're never really confident what the limit is, never scrimping on speed cameras though!
Then the f
kers on pushbikes,petrol scooters, e-bikes and electric kids scooters going wherever they bloody like, buzzing around like friggin' wasps, delivery wagons that must have radar guidance because they drive and stop about a foot off your rear bumper!It doesn't matter what reason they are closed (who knows what is ahead) driving on the footway is unforgivable and I hope they are prosecuted. Remarkable that some feel it's justified but then again this is PH where the motorist is always right and the Council wrong whatever the issue is.
Type R Tom said:
It doesn't matter what reason they are closed (who knows what is ahead) driving on the footway is unforgivable and I hope they are prosecuted. Remarkable that some feel it's justified but then again this is PH where the motorist is always right and the Council wrong whatever the issue is.
Nobody has justified driving on the pavement.Quhet said:
The drivers are selfish s. Whatever the Council have done, there's no excuse for the blatant disregard for a closed road.
It's not 'a' closed road though, it's a rolling programme of road closures under the guise of Corona. They are literally closing the whole of London off to anywhere other than main roads. Right now It's happening across almost every London Borough. Very soon central London will be annexed North and South of the river. Once it 'proves' successful there, it will come to a town near you. From this Saturday, Motorised scooters will be 15mph legal in the UK. The 'war on motorists' is going nuclear.s. Whatever the Council have done, there's no excuse for the blatant disregard for a closed road.you ain't seen nothing yet...
scottyp123 said:
I drive on the pavement twice a day, never felt like I'd done anything wrong.
That would depend on the reason. IE, to get off/on your drive, nobody is gonna bat an eye lid at that. To purposely get around a clearly blocked road because your too important to turn around Mark's you as a tt.The council I suspect are equally to blame, as what's the betting that there is on clear signage or warning that the road is closed.
I suppose it depends on exactly what the layout is. If they've dumped barriers halfway down the street and left people with nowhere to go, no room to turn around, and a big queue of traffic behind them, I don't see what choice they have to get out of that situation.
The sensible thing would be to set up the barriers at a junction, so people find the road is closed at the exact same point they have an option to go a different way.
Even if there's a sign telling people the street is closed at some point, they need to know where that is. If you're going to number 73, you need to know if the barrier is set up at number 55 or number 95.
My instinctive reaction is that it's most likely a poorly thought out layout that's very unintuitive for people to navigate.
The sensible thing would be to set up the barriers at a junction, so people find the road is closed at the exact same point they have an option to go a different way.
Even if there's a sign telling people the street is closed at some point, they need to know where that is. If you're going to number 73, you need to know if the barrier is set up at number 55 or number 95.
My instinctive reaction is that it's most likely a poorly thought out layout that's very unintuitive for people to navigate.
menousername said:
What if you live in that street? You need to do a 45 min detour in traffic to come in other end??
What if an emergency vehicle needs to get through??
Insanity
You would plan your route to arrive in the end you need to access, it’s really not that complicated. What if an emergency vehicle needs to get through??
Insanity
This road has been used as a rat run and there are sufficient main roads in the area, quite agree with this being closed for the benefit of the residents that live there.
C.A.R. said:
Don't agree with them using the pavement - obviously - but watching that video where are they supposed to go? What is the alternative? They can't turn around, there are parked cars either side of the road so they can't go back the way they came.
Utterly bonkers idea.
100% this - driving on the pavement is never a good idea but why on earth would the barriers be halfway along a residential street and not at the junction?Utterly bonkers idea.
I live in Lewisham and on one of the roads that has been blocked. There has been very little signage or warning of it all, they appeared over night with not even a note through the letter box of the locals.
Overall I’m still not sure, on the one hand it’s great, the sheer number of mindless journeys it is hopefully cutting down on is great, not to mention the distinct lack of Golf R types blatting up and down with no regard for anyone.
On the other I do feel sorry for those who have to drive around, we bike or walk pretty much everywhere unless we’re leaving London (which hasn’t happened for 3 months). I do think/hope this initial hype and poor implementation will soon sort itself out, people will learn to plan their journey around which end of the road they need etc. I don’t expect driving within the north/south circular will ever get easier and in fairness it should be being discouraged as much as possible.
Overall I’m still not sure, on the one hand it’s great, the sheer number of mindless journeys it is hopefully cutting down on is great, not to mention the distinct lack of Golf R types blatting up and down with no regard for anyone.
On the other I do feel sorry for those who have to drive around, we bike or walk pretty much everywhere unless we’re leaving London (which hasn’t happened for 3 months). I do think/hope this initial hype and poor implementation will soon sort itself out, people will learn to plan their journey around which end of the road they need etc. I don’t expect driving within the north/south circular will ever get easier and in fairness it should be being discouraged as much as possible.
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