RE: Aston Martin DB9 | The Brave Pill

RE: Aston Martin DB9 | The Brave Pill

Saturday 4th July 2020

Aston Martin DB9 | The Brave Pill

The first modern Aston has descended into dangerously compelling territory



When, around 2500 years ago, Sun Tzu came up with his famous line about the bodies of your enemies floating past if you sit by the river for long enough, he undoubtedly wasn't thinking of luxurious Grand Tourers from the early 21st century. But the same principle applies - in this part of the market the grandest are always humbled.

The sub-£30K DB9 has been with us for several years, but the earliest cars to fall to such a level almost always had obvious issues in terms of condition or spec or lacked the kind of history that provides reassurance in the face of a maintenance hungry V12. Yet in the last few months that has changed, with both significant numbers of early DB9s falling to the mid-20s, but also the rising percentage that - like this week's Pill - look like bets you wouldn't be barking mad to take.

Of course, many reckon that Brave Pill's role is to dig out the riskiest example of any car; they expect to hear ticking or smell burning as they look at the advert. That is often the case, but the financial peril of any middle-aged Aston is such that even an apparently solid example requires the sort of courage that gets odes composed or statues carved. You could save a couple of grand with an even cheaper example, but given our Pill's combination of a good colour and a full service history, you'd be a bit mad to.


It's no exaggeration to describe the DB9 as being the first modern Aston. The DB7 had sold in sufficiently healthy volumes to persuade then-owner Ford to sign some very big cheques, paying to create a new V12 engine and sign off on the bonded aluminium architecture that, in heavily modified forms, are both still serving the company today. The brutish Vanquish was the first car to combine an aluminium structure and the V12, being handbuilt in limited numbers at Aston's historic Newport Pagnell HQ. It was also fitted with a robotized manual gearbox with the manners of an angry attack dog and, these days, prices start at over £60,000.

The DB9 was much cheaper when it launched, £103,000 against the Vanq's £163,000, but also much more refined. It was the first car produced in Aston's spiffy new Gaydon factory, where it was constructed to much tighter tolerances than any previous Aston, and with much less use of big hammers. It also got the option of a civilised rear-mounted torque converter auto in place of the standard six-speed manual, something the majority of buyers went for.

Early critical reaction was - well, surprisingly 'meh' really. Praise for the styling was pretty much universal, and although Aston's then design director Henrik Fisker was officially credited with the DB9's handsome lines, everyone knew the vast majority of work on both it and the Vantage had been done under his predecessor, Ian Callum. But beneath the design a fair number of reviewers reckoned the basic car was a bit too soft and wafty, lacking the sort of iron-fisted dynamic focus they had been hoping for. It was criticism that led to the creation of a firmed-up Sport Pack, offered from 2006, with the base car also given progressively firmer chassis tunes throughout its long life.


Yet even in its softest form the DB9 was special, something close to an excuse-free Aston. The early car might have been lacking in the ability to nuzzle apexes or fondle high-speed sweepers expected by the most gung-ho road testers, but it was an extraordinarily talented at delivering effortless speed. One of my first drives involved taking a car from the UK to Germany for a comparison test, with tight deadlines demanding most of the drive out at night. The Aston's ability to devour empty Autobahn at an effortless 150mph cruise as the big V12 hummed away redefined my view of what "grand touring" actually meant, even if it did go on to lose an ill-matched contest with a 911 Turbo.

Okay, there were some obvious issues, even in 2003. Parts of the cabin felt low rent even then, especially the vast, plasticy greyness of the centre console. The sat nav was famously terrible, the DB9 getting a Volvo system whose screen wheezed slowly out of the top of the dashboard, and which had to be laboriously programmed using fiddly buttons behind the steering wheel. Despite the promise of two-plus-two practicality the cabin was cramped compared to a Bentley Continental GT, and nobody has ever ridden in the back of a DB9 without complaining. Yet compared to the Astons that had gone before, quality and usability were in completely different leagues.

None of which stopped the DB9 from running into a familiar Aston problem - outliving its welcome. After a strong start sales had begun to dip even before the 2008 financial crash pretty much collapsed them. A 2009 facelift brought more power and firmer suspension, but did little to boost the car's fortunes. Aston then muddied the water with both the DBS V12 spin-off and the short-lived Virage (remember that?), both of which made the standard DB9 look like a poor relation. While the basic car was tweaked and preened over the years the most striking thing about the last-of-line DB9 in 2016 is just how similar it looks to the 2003 original.


The DB9's long life has long created a huge spread of values; it was possible to get early cars for little more than £30,000 at the same time the last examples were being sold new for £100,000 more. But while there are many fine reasons to save up the extra required for a later car, early examples now look like outrageous value, especially given the smallness of the supplement they currently have over the much less advanced DB7. The big challenge, as always, is finding a good one. As a well-known Aston specialist once said to me - having shown a pile of maintenance invoices totaling well over ten grand on what was then a five-year old DB9 - "there are people who can afford to run Aston Martins, and people who think they can. There are many more people in the second group, and they're the ones you don't want to buy cars from."

Our Pill is a typical early example, finished in the Tungsten silver that was very popular in the early years and with a grey interior. It's an automatic - as most were - and although 72,000 miles is on the high side for an early DB9, that's mostly due to the UK's strange fetishization of barely-used exotics and the fact many owners seem terrified to actually use their cars. The vendor is a well-known upmarket dealer in Buckinghamshire and promises a full service history, although with no more details in the text. The MOT history backs the mileage, shows continuous use and proves the car to have suffered from very little to concern any of the testers it has met over the years - the last bit of red being a failed lamp in 2015. It's not in concours condition, the carpet is either worn or poorly cleaned and there seems to be a scratch on the rear bumper. But nothing some TLC wouldn't put right.

There's no such thing as a cheap to run Aston, of course - but a cheap-to-buy one does maximise the available headroom for when the bills start to arrive. And bring us to another Sun Tsu quotation too apt to be resisted: "victorious warriors win first and then go to war."


See the original advert here


 

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TVR Sagaris

Original Poster:

834 posts

232 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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They have taken the pictures with it half on the kerb, on the edge of a junction. What the hell?

tberg

573 posts

61 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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The DB9's Ian Callum designed clone over at the Jaguar store known as the XKR may not have the Aston panache but in nearly every other way is a better, more satisfying automobile. The 5.0L XKR will outperform any DB9 version and in every face to face comparison I have ever read in review, it is always named as the preferred car. True the interior of the XKR may not be quite as special as the DB9, but as it leaves the DB9 in the dust on any kind of performance comparison, its advantages become obvious. And the fact is excellent 5.0L examples can be had for the very low $20,000 range, are extremely reliable, beautiful, and a pleasure to drive I have 175,000 miles on my 2010, it is still a pleasure to drive everyday, has been to the track dozens of times, and is quicker than my Pantera. Anyone considering a DB9 ought to at least take a look.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

127 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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I'll never understand some who think presenting a car in this state is a good selling point. Those carpets look minging.
They need a good wet vac and if discoloured re colouring.


oilit

2,625 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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what is it that is screwed to the centre console - where you would perhaps rest your left knee ?!

If one was so inclined, change the wheels to ones off a later model and that car would very quickly look like one of the newer ones

sidewinder500

1,144 posts

94 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Whatever, I'll take it

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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tberg said:
The DB9's Ian Callum designed clone over at the Jaguar store known as the XKR may not have the Aston panache but in nearly every other way is a better, more satisfying automobile. The 5.0L XKR will outperform any DB9 version and in every face to face comparison I have ever read in review, it is always named as the preferred car. True the interior of the XKR may not be quite as special as the DB9, but as it leaves the DB9 in the dust on any kind of performance comparison, its advantages become obvious. And the fact is excellent 5.0L examples can be had for the very low $20,000 range, are extremely reliable, beautiful, and a pleasure to drive I have 175,000 miles on my 2010, it is still a pleasure to drive everyday, has been to the track dozens of times, and is quicker than my Pantera. Anyone considering a DB9 ought to at least take a look.
Sound? Theatre? Looks? The DB9 is a V12 and as we all know, 12 is better than 8...

carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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tberg said:
True the interior of the XKR may not be quite as special as the DB9
The interior in this Aston doesn't appear special, just very grey.

Arsecati

2,309 posts

117 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Lovely motor, but I'll take that Cossie in the window instead! wink

Triumph Man

8,690 posts

168 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Always liked these, especially in the lovely dark metallic grey/silver colour like this one.

Surely these can’t drop any further?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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JohnG1 said:
tberg said:
The DB9's Ian Callum designed clone over at the Jaguar store known as the XKR may not have the Aston panache but in nearly every other way is a better, more satisfying automobile. The 5.0L XKR will outperform any DB9 version and in every face to face comparison I have ever read in review, it is always named as the preferred car. True the interior of the XKR may not be quite as special as the DB9, but as it leaves the DB9 in the dust on any kind of performance comparison, its advantages become obvious. And the fact is excellent 5.0L examples can be had for the very low $20,000 range, are extremely reliable, beautiful, and a pleasure to drive I have 175,000 miles on my 2010, it is still a pleasure to drive everyday, has been to the track dozens of times, and is quicker than my Pantera. Anyone considering a DB9 ought to at least take a look.
Sound? Theatre? Looks? The DB9 is a V12 and as we all know, 12 is better than 8...
One is an Aston Martin and the other a Jag. That alone is enough for the majority to make a choice! For me it would be the Aston all day long. Way more special IMO smile

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Give me a db7 any day over this, in that sexy blue. I will put up with the naff interior.



sidewinder500

1,144 posts

94 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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tberg said:
The DB9's Ian Callum designed clone over at the Jaguar store known as the XKR may not have the Aston panache but in nearly every other way is a better, more satisfying automobile...[/url]
You named it, nobody wants a clone when he can lay his cold prying hands on the original...

Besides, 12 vs 8, 12 is more, so it is better etc.

No contest really

sidewinder500

1,144 posts

94 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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dazwalsh said:
Give me a db7 any day over this, in that sexy blue. I will put up with the naff interior.


That is gorgeous, but it rusts and prices firmed up somewhat to NOT justify one anymore

And the proportions of the DB9 are just perfect, just compare the side view. Length/wheelbase/overhang relation is the best of the modern aera, as the 7 has slightly too long overhangs.
On the 9 Callum could right his wrongs with a real clean sheet design, which is always purer.

Edited by sidewinder500 on Saturday 4th July 09:31

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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That's a LOT of grey, but I'd still have it, stty carpets the lot.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

151 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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tberg said:
The DB9's Ian Callum designed clone over at the Jaguar store known as the XKR may not have the Aston panache but in nearly every other way is a better, more satisfying automobile. The 5.0L XKR will outperform any DB9 version and in every face to face comparison I have ever read in review, it is always named as the preferred car. True the interior of the XKR may not be quite as special as the DB9, but as it leaves the DB9 in the dust on any kind of performance comparison, its advantages become obvious. And the fact is excellent 5.0L examples can be had for the very low $20,000 range, are extremely reliable, beautiful, and a pleasure to drive I have 175,000 miles on my 2010, it is still a pleasure to drive everyday, has been to the track dozens of times, and is quicker than my Pantera. Anyone considering a DB9 ought to at least take a look.
That looks very nice, this is probably my next car. The Aston is handsome but does not do anything for me nor does it look special to my eyes.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Two main problems with the Jag...

1. It's missing 4 cylinders.

2. It's not an Aston.

Piersman2

6,597 posts

199 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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JohnG1 said:
tberg said:
The DB9's Ian Callum designed clone over at the Jaguar store known as the XKR may not have the Aston panache but in nearly every other way is a better, more satisfying automobile. The 5.0L XKR will outperform any DB9 version and in every face to face comparison I have ever read in review, it is always named as the preferred car. True the interior of the XKR may not be quite as special as the DB9, but as it leaves the DB9 in the dust on any kind of performance comparison, its advantages become obvious. And the fact is excellent 5.0L examples can be had for the very low $20,000 range, are extremely reliable, beautiful, and a pleasure to drive I have 175,000 miles on my 2010, it is still a pleasure to drive everyday, has been to the track dozens of times, and is quicker than my Pantera. Anyone considering a DB9 ought to at least take a look.
Sound? Theatre? Looks? The DB9 is a V12 and as we all know, 12 is better than 8...
I'm with tberg on this one, although I may be biased as I have a 2010 XKR convertible. 12 isn't always better than 8, especially when the 8 has a great big supercharger bolted on top of it! smile

A few years back I did half consider buying either a Bentley or Aston. But at the end of the day the cost of parts for these make them an utter moneypit for even the most basic of things. My father had a Bentley Flying Spur for a couple of years, he wanted replacement b&c pillar covers as his were a little corroded. So that's 4 pieces of painted tin. £840. Plus vat. Plus fitting. He had them wrapped instead.

But it's an indication that when you need to go and buy parts you're going to be paying through the nose for them as the low volume numbers of these cars mean few non-dealer options to replace broken bits.

I'd still have a DB9, I do like them, but I'd be incredibly wary about provenance and would never intend it to be anything like a daily driver, which the XKR can be.

cerb4.5lee

30,554 posts

180 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Stick(excuse the pun) a manual gearbox in it and then I might be interested! biggrin

Turbobanana

6,265 posts

201 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Surely someone at PH Towers will soon realise that any copy describing the colour of a car will be contentious. Colour choice is a very personal thing: to me, this looks flat and boring, even more so inside. There's no contrast: it's all grey (despite AM calling it "Tungsten Silver").

No doubt someone will be along soon to explain that it's subtle, blends in or flies under the radar etc, but if you want that then don't buy an Aston in the first place.

Lovely car, but it's so grey I fear I'd trip over it on the driveway.

cerb4.5lee

30,554 posts

180 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Turbobanana said:
Lovely car, but it's so grey I fear I'd trip over it on the driveway.
It isn't a colour that I'd go for either in fairness. I guess that it suits the understated class aspect of the car though.