CV19 - The Anti Vaxxers Are Back

[tangerine_sedge]

gregs656 said:

Woody John said:

Woody John said:

Spend 10mins watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNdvN6IHqU

Very good

I see someone forgot to switch accounts.

So which banee multiple account holder is he/she?

[CoolHands]

tangerine_sedge said:

gregs656 said:

Woody John said:

Woody John said:

Spend 10mins watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNdvN6IHqU

Very good

I see someone forgot to switch accounts.

So which banee multiple account holder is he/she?

There’s lots of multiple user nutters that frequent NP&E

[paulguitar]

gregs656 said:

Woody John said:

Woody John said:

Spend 10mins watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNdvN6IHqU

Very good

I see someone forgot to switch accounts.

[Gadgetmac]

hidetheelephants said:

gregs656 said:

Woody John said:

Woody John said:

Spend 10mins watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNdvN6IHqU

Very good

I see someone forgot to switch accounts.

Bye bye Woody John

[otolith]

How much of a bored attention seeker do you need to be to be playing sock puppets on PH?

[Electro1980]

Taylor James said:

Time's ticking on that mythical vaccine. Are we getting it before Autumn?

Current hope is 1million doses by the end of September and the whole country having it by the end of the year. So far ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 appears to be safe in humans, effective in mice and is currently in the early stages of wide scale international stage 3 testing. All on target and I believe AZ are getting everything ready for mass production.

[Woody John]

tangerine_sedge said:

gregs656 said:

Woody John said:

Woody John said:

Spend 10mins watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNdvN6IHqU

Very good

I see someone forgot to switch accounts.

So which banee multiple account holder is he/she?

Just giving it a bump

[Gadgetmac]

Woody John said:

tangerine_sedge said:

gregs656 said:

Woody John said:

Woody John said:

Spend 10mins watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUNdvN6IHqU

Very good

I see someone forgot to switch accounts.

So which banee multiple account holder is he/she?

Just giving it a bump

Righto

[Gadgetmac]

Electro1980 said:

Taylor James said:

Time's ticking on that mythical vaccine. Are we getting it before Autumn?

Current hope is 1million doses by the end of September and the whole country having it by the end of the year. So far ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 appears to be safe in humans, effective in mice and is currently in the early stages of wide scale international stage 3 testing. All on target and I believe AZ are getting everything ready for mass production.

As this is the Oxford Vaccine will us Brits be getting it first or will the yanks have first dibs, like they always want to?

[s2art]

Gadgetmac said:

Electro1980 said:

Taylor James said:

Time's ticking on that mythical vaccine. Are we getting it before Autumn?

Current hope is 1million doses by the end of September and the whole country having it by the end of the year. So far ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 appears to be safe in humans, effective in mice and is currently in the early stages of wide scale international stage 3 testing. All on target and I believe AZ are getting everything ready for mass production.

As this is the Oxford Vaccine will us Brits be getting it first or will the yanks have first dibs, like they always want to?

The yanks have their own production facility, as does India. (and France I think)

[RTB]

Gadgetmac said:

As this is the Oxford Vaccine will us Brits be getting it first or will the yanks have first dibs, like they always want to?

First 30 million doses have got the UK's name on them. British university, British company, it would be a travesty if Britons were at the back of the queue.

Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.

The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....

[anonymous-user]

Woody John said:

Just giving it a bump

Without taking anything away from the trolling expertise on display here, I will back WJ on this one occasion. This comment did fit the cadence of the conversation

[Gadgetmac]

RTB said:

Gadgetmac said:

As this is the Oxford Vaccine will us Brits be getting it first or will the yanks have first dibs, like they always want to?

First 30 million doses have got the UK's name on them. British university, British company, it would be a travesty if Britons were at the back of the queue.

Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.

The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....

Is 30 million enough? Not even half the population.

[RTB]

Gadgetmac said:

Is 30 million enough? Not even half the population.

Enough to vaccinate the vulnerable and front line staff. Add in those who already have some form of immunity and we're into herd immunity territory. If the vaccine works.

[Electro1980]

RTB said:

Gadgetmac said:

As this is the Oxford Vaccine will us Brits be getting it first or will the yanks have first dibs, like they always want to?

First 30 million doses have got the UK's name on them. British university, British company, it would be a travesty if Britons were at the back of the queue.

Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.

The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....

My understanding is that there is lots of discussion with the regulators and they are being very constructive and positive. Given that the team are still positive about hitting the original date I guess that the discussions are going well.

[RTB]

Electro1980 said:

My understanding is that there is lots of discussion with the regulators and they are being very constructive and positive. Given that the team are still positive about hitting the original date I guess that the discussions are going well.

I'm presuming that the data is being shared with the regulators as it becomes available.

[Taylor James]

RTB said:

Gadgetmac said:

Is 30 million enough? Not even half the population.

Enough to vaccinate the vulnerable and front line staff. Add in those who already have some form of immunity and we're into herd immunity territory. If the vaccine works.

My understanding was that we won't vaccinate the vulnerable. Only the healthy (and largely invulnerable).

Did I get that wrong?

[RTB]

Taylor James said:

My understanding was that we won't vaccinate the vulnerable. Only the healthy (and largely invulnerable).

Did I get that wrong?

Yes.

The phase 2b/3 trials have arms that cover over 70s as well as children over 5. The plan will be to vaccinate front line health care staff and the more vulnerable first, in much the same way they use the flu vaccine. If you're under 60 and healthy you won't be at the front of the queue.

The issue will be how effective the vaccine will be in older people, we don't know that yet which is why the trials are ongoing.

Some interesting information here re: the Oxford trials:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04400838

[Hoofy]

RTB said:

Taylor James said:

My understanding was that we won't vaccinate the vulnerable. Only the healthy (and largely invulnerable).

Did I get that wrong?

Yes.

The phase 2b/3 trials have arms that cover over 70s as well as children over 5. The plan will be to vaccinate front line health care staff and the more vulnerable first, in much the same way they use the flu vaccine. If you're under 60 and healthy you won't be at the front of the queue.

The issue will be how effective the vaccine will be in older people, we don't know that yet which is why the trials are ongoing.

Some interesting information here re: the Oxford trials:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04400838

Makes sense to me. Certainly, my friends who work on the frontline and my mum should have it before me (healthy, fit 40-something).

[hidetheelephants]

RTB said:

Gadgetmac said:

Is 30 million enough? Not even half the population.

Enough to vaccinate the vulnerable and front line staff. Add in those who already have some form of immunity and we're into herd immunity territory. If the vaccine works.

So as a flu jab recipient I'll be getting a letter for this then? Good stuff.