CV19 - The Anti Vaxxers Are Back
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study said:
All subjects will undergo follow-up for a total of 1 year post enrolment. Additional visits or procedures may be performed at the discretion of the investigators, e.g., further medical history and physical examination, or additional blood tests and other investigations if clinically relevant
Vanden Saab said:
study said:
All subjects will undergo follow-up for a total of 1 year post enrolment. Additional visits or procedures may be performed at the discretion of the investigators, e.g., further medical history and physical examination, or additional blood tests and other investigations if clinically relevant
All subjects are free to stop participation at any time in the trial and aren't compelled to do anything.
https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140-673...
Encouraging news from the vaccine trial.
To keep the anti vax loons happy, it does seem to have some side effects. Nothing that can't be cured with a paracetamol.
Encouraging news from the vaccine trial.
To keep the anti vax loons happy, it does seem to have some side effects. Nothing that can't be cured with a paracetamol.
mx5nut said:
https://www.thelancet.com/lancet/article/s0140-673...
Encouraging news from the vaccine trial.
To keep the anti vax loons happy, it does seem to have some side effects. Nothing that can't be cured with a paracetamol.
They’ll only say they don’t believe in taking paracetamol.Encouraging news from the vaccine trial.
To keep the anti vax loons happy, it does seem to have some side effects. Nothing that can't be cured with a paracetamol.
Edited by Gadgetmac on Monday 20th July 22:34
Gadgetmac said:
Up to a third of Brits polled won't take the vaccine if and when it's produced.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-up-to-a-thi...
WTF is wrong with some people???
Extract:
A third of Britons have said they are either unsure or definitely wouldn't use a vaccine for coronavirus, a poll suggests.
The survey, conducted on behalf of the Centre for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), coincides with the release of a report by the same group into the spread of anti-vaccine misinformation online.
Members of the public who relied on social media more than traditional platforms for information were less likely to say they would get vaccinated, the poll suggests.
Perhaps they are amongst the 80% of people that will get either no or mild symptoms? Perhaps even the other 15% who get ill but don't need Hospital? Still less than 1% of infected people dying of course. If you are 80+ and / or have a compromised immune system then the vaccine is probably for you though ...https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-up-to-a-thi...
WTF is wrong with some people???
Extract:
A third of Britons have said they are either unsure or definitely wouldn't use a vaccine for coronavirus, a poll suggests.
The survey, conducted on behalf of the Centre for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), coincides with the release of a report by the same group into the spread of anti-vaccine misinformation online.
Members of the public who relied on social media more than traditional platforms for information were less likely to say they would get vaccinated, the poll suggests.
"The team found that nearly one in five people over 80 infected with covid-19 would probably require hospital admission, compared with around 1% of people under 30."
"They then estimated the infection fatality ratio (the percentage of all infected people who die from the disease, including those with mild disease) as 0.66% (0.39% to 1.33%)."
But yeah Trump Supporters.
TX.
Terminator X said:
Gadgetmac said:
Up to a third of Brits polled won't take the vaccine if and when it's produced.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-up-to-a-thi...
WTF is wrong with some people???
Extract:
A third of Britons have said they are either unsure or definitely wouldn't use a vaccine for coronavirus, a poll suggests.
The survey, conducted on behalf of the Centre for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), coincides with the release of a report by the same group into the spread of anti-vaccine misinformation online.
Members of the public who relied on social media more than traditional platforms for information were less likely to say they would get vaccinated, the poll suggests.
Perhaps they are amongst the 80% of people that will get either no or mild symptoms?https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-up-to-a-thi...
WTF is wrong with some people???
Extract:
A third of Britons have said they are either unsure or definitely wouldn't use a vaccine for coronavirus, a poll suggests.
The survey, conducted on behalf of the Centre for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), coincides with the release of a report by the same group into the spread of anti-vaccine misinformation online.
Members of the public who relied on social media more than traditional platforms for information were less likely to say they would get vaccinated, the poll suggests.
Terminator X said:
If you are 80+ and / or have a compromised immune system then the vaccine is probably for you though ...
The groups that a vaccine would be least effective in? 
You might have to explain your thinking on that one - but type slowly for those of us without your medical background.Terminator X said:
Gadgetmac said:
Up to a third of Brits polled won't take the vaccine if and when it's produced.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-up-to-a-thi...
WTF is wrong with some people???
Extract:
A third of Britons have said they are either unsure or definitely wouldn't use a vaccine for coronavirus, a poll suggests.
The survey, conducted on behalf of the Centre for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), coincides with the release of a report by the same group into the spread of anti-vaccine misinformation online.
Members of the public who relied on social media more than traditional platforms for information were less likely to say they would get vaccinated, the poll suggests.
Perhaps they are amongst the 80% of people that will get either no or mild symptoms? Perhaps even the other 15% who get ill but don't need Hospital? Still less than 1% of infected people dying of course. If you are 80+ and / or have a compromised immune system then the vaccine is probably for you though ...https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-up-to-a-thi...
WTF is wrong with some people???
Extract:
A third of Britons have said they are either unsure or definitely wouldn't use a vaccine for coronavirus, a poll suggests.
The survey, conducted on behalf of the Centre for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), coincides with the release of a report by the same group into the spread of anti-vaccine misinformation online.
Members of the public who relied on social media more than traditional platforms for information were less likely to say they would get vaccinated, the poll suggests.
"The team found that nearly one in five people over 80 infected with covid-19 would probably require hospital admission, compared with around 1% of people under 30."
"They then estimated the infection fatality ratio (the percentage of all infected people who die from the disease, including those with mild disease) as 0.66% (0.39% to 1.33%)."
But yeah Trump Supporters.
TX.
You clearly don’t give a s
t about passing it on to the most vulnerable in society because you can’t be arsed to get a jab that takes all of 1 minute to administer at your local doctors surgery.Well done you. An excellent addition to the human race. Lets hope it’s not the elders in your family that contract it.
Well I'm definitely one of the 3rd.
I'm not an anti vaxer for polio or MMR. They are awful conditions for which a well proven and minimal risk vaccine is available. None of that is true in this case.
C19 is a small risk to all but the most frail.
A vaccine developed in a few months under huge political pressure and with enormous rewards attached cannot possibly be as well proven. It wouldn't take years of carefully controlled trials for other drugs if it was that easy.
Make it voluntary by all means, sell it at pharmacies or give it to anyone who wants it. The idea of making it mandatory is appalling and I for one would rather go to prison.
I'm not an anti vaxer for polio or MMR. They are awful conditions for which a well proven and minimal risk vaccine is available. None of that is true in this case.
C19 is a small risk to all but the most frail.
A vaccine developed in a few months under huge political pressure and with enormous rewards attached cannot possibly be as well proven. It wouldn't take years of carefully controlled trials for other drugs if it was that easy.
Make it voluntary by all means, sell it at pharmacies or give it to anyone who wants it. The idea of making it mandatory is appalling and I for one would rather go to prison.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-07/15/c_1392...
Cholesterol med seems to be effective in treating C19
Known medication so hopefully better predictions on side effects
Cholesterol med seems to be effective in treating C19
Known medication so hopefully better predictions on side effects
RTB said:
First 30 million doses have got the UK's name on them. British university, British company, it would be a travesty if Britons were at the back of the queue.
Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.
The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....
And that last sentance right there is the issue. Short cuts.Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.
The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....
monkfish1 said:
RTB said:
First 30 million doses have got the UK's name on them. British university, British company, it would be a travesty if Britons were at the back of the queue.
Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.
The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....
And that last sentance right there is the issue. Short cuts.Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.
The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....
Electro1980 said:
monkfish1 said:
RTB said:
First 30 million doses have got the UK's name on them. British university, British company, it would be a travesty if Britons were at the back of the queue.
Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.
The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....
And that last sentance right there is the issue. Short cuts.Making the stuff isn't the issue, making sure it works (to some degree) and get approved is the big problem.
The first phase 2b/3 read outs should be available in late August or early September. We're preparing the regulatory submissions now in anticipation of those read outs.
I don't know what discussion are being had with the regulators but they'll have to bring the assessment and approval times down somewhat. A standard marketing approval in Europe takes 210 days, an accelerated assessment is 150 days. This needs to be more like 30 days....
Either way, there cannot be long term tests. There isnt time to do that. As i understand long term testing is part of the normal approval process?
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