Alfa GT 3.2 it's rough, it's cheap but god the Busso's sweet

Alfa GT 3.2 it's rough, it's cheap but god the Busso's sweet

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Notanotherturbo

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494 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I sold my E39 Alpina 3.2 last week after 3 years and have been scouring the classifieds all week for a 'do ur upper'. I like a useable rolling project as a daily (wifes car fulfills practical duties so it can be anything). It doesn't get much use as I use a van for work so economy isn't really an issue. I was looking at the Alfa GTs but to be honest not the 3.2. The 1.9 diesels make a good daily, they are very economical and go really well with a remap. But while I was looking I found this car. Bought by the previous owner to use as a track car, which made some sense as the body has a few issues but car has only done 63k miles and runs sweet. They then got offered something that suited them better and just wanted this gone. Was very happy with what I paid, although currently I can't find another one for sale anywhere to compare prices! They are pretty rare full stop, under 350 taxed or SORN compared to 318 147 GTAs and 280 156 GTAs. Personally I think they are undervalued as urguably they are prettier than either, drive very similarly, lacking only the better seats of the GTAs, yet are only around 60% of the price.

So onto the car, took an hours drive to have a look. Body wise most of the issues were in the advert so I new what to expect. Bumpers are scuffed front and back and it's through the paint in places. Drivers side door has surface rust on the bottom edge and will need addressing, other than that just one or too little marks that should come out with a detail. Wheels need a refurb but aren't to bad but I'll refurb them when the back tyres need changing which won't be too long. Interior is excellent with just some wear on the bolster drivers side so easily addressed. Everything seems to work but the aircon isn't cold.

The worst thing is the front suspension. I had expected this to be honest as every buying guide says what a hard life it has. It bangs and crashes terribly over bumps but the car still steers well and is ok as long as the road stays smooth. Luckily the parts to completely rebuild the front suspension only come to a couple of hundred quid for top and bottom arms and drop links.

Saved the best until last. The engine. Now I've read endless stories of what a great engine the Busso is , and while I didn't disbelieve it I must admit I did think people were exaggerating about how great it was. I've had plenty of V6s, from Ford, Renault, Peugeot, Volkswagen etc but I have to say the Busso knocks spots off them for smoothness, the way it revs and the sound. I'm a convert smile. I'll try and come back to this thread as bits and pieces get done. Should happen pretty quickly. Suspension parts are ordered already and my paint man is preparing a quote. I gave the engine bay a spruce up this morning but going to leave the rest of the cosmetic stuff and interior until after it's had paint.









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anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I [heart] Bussos. Have fun, OP. Forza Italia!

shalmaneser

5,931 posts

195 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Looking forward to this. Do these rust? That's killed a fair few 156s I believe....

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I had a 2002 156 2.5 Busso Sportwagon from 2004 to 2015 and it didn't have any known rust issues when I sold it (which I regret doing).

spaceship

867 posts

175 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Was gonna ask the same thing about the rust. These have a unique look about them, I really like the styling and they are relatively practical too.

Gotta be a 3.2 V6. I’ll need to have a look on YouTube of some vids of that engine in use.

OP, hope it all works out well for you.

MarkwG

4,847 posts

189 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Lovely machine - looks like you might be missing the cover for the front cylinder bank? [url] Won't affect how it runs, though wink

Hub

6,431 posts

198 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Always loved the looks of these. Get some better alloys on it though, I think those are the basic ones but they look a bit small.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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In my opinion, a GT car of almost any kind looks better with smaller wheels and more sidewall. I am not a fan of the trend for huuuuuuuge wheels and tiny profile tyres, but, OP, your choice, obvs.

CallThatMusic

2,557 posts

88 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Looks great. Like the colour.
Good luck !

trails

3,703 posts

149 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Pretty cars. A friend had a Blackline 1.9...it was a nice car, but did a few weird things. Door handles just falling off was my fav!

Best of luck with it OP smile

Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Wheels wise I might try and find some 17" teledials, I think they only look small because everything has wheels that are too big nowadays smile. It does have some rust underneath where it hasn't been jacked up properly in the past, I'll have a proper look when I get it up on a ramp next week.

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I saw this car on “the bay” and was considering an offer and then noticed it had gone yesterday, I think.
Glad you have posted on here and I look forward to hearing how things go with it. I can’t find another one at the moment so definitely rare cars.


Edited by andy97 on Saturday 11th July 21:52

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Notanotherturbo said:
...I think they only look small because everything has wheels that are too big nowadays smile...
Amen to that! I hope that the car delivers you much Italofun, OP.

Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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MarkwG said:
Lovely machine - looks like you might be missing the cover for the front cylinder bank? [url] Won't affect how it runs, though wink
Mine doesn't have that cover, not sure why, maybe only the GTAs have them? Certain years?

51mes

1,498 posts

200 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I've had a 156 GTA back in the day (2002 - RE02ELC - no longer with us) and now have a stunning green/tan 3.0 916 GTV v6 just to get the busso back in my life. It's the best V6 ever by far.. There's a history of the engine in this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdD2RzZAglQ

All the modern Busso's (156,166,GT and GTV) I've seen have that lower cover - so it's definitely missing.

The best upgrade if you haven't got it already is the Q2 or Quaife LSD - completely changes the car when you accelerate hard - torque steer is a thing of the past.

Yours looks lovely, always liked the GT - Enjoy it...

MarkwG

4,847 posts

189 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Notanotherturbo said:
Mine doesn't have that cover, not sure why, maybe only the GTAs have them? Certain years?
Nope, as above, they were all supplied with them. Dimensional wise, they're all the same, I think, so any would fit.

Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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51mes said:
I've had a 156 GTA back in the day (2002 - RE02ELC - no longer with us) and now have a stunning green/tan 3.0 916 GTV v6 just to get the busso back in my life. It's the best V6 ever by far.. There's a history of the engine in this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdD2RzZAglQ

All the modern Busso's (156,166,GT and GTV) I've seen have that lower cover - so it's definitely missing.

The best upgrade if you haven't got it already is the Q2 or Quaife LSD - completely changes the car when you accelerate hard - torque steer is a thing of the past.

Yours looks lovely, always liked the GT - Enjoy it...
I've read that, seems a very popular upgrade, best done with the clutch. Definitely one for the future if the car turns out to be a keeper smile.

ITP

2,002 posts

197 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Nice car.
Get the body shop to check the floorpans too whilst it’s in.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Notanotherturbo

Original Poster:

494 posts

207 months

Tuesday 14th December 2021
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So a year of grief but finally it is finished. All suspension parts replaced and or uprated, all rust issues resolved and partial repaint, new wheels and tyres, cambelt and engine detail.

Final Spec

Engine - 65k miles, panel filter and stainless exhaust.
6 Speed gearbox with Q2 LSD
KW V1 Coilovers
Refurbed Brembo calipers and 330mm discs
Ducati Corse 18" wheels refurbed in anthracite with 225/40 18 Michelin PS4s

Many thanks to Autolusso in Bournemouth for all their help, they were excellent, helping source parts and taking pity on me with the series of issues with the car. Drive lovely now.