Check, Change, Go- new Brexit tool from Govt.

Check, Change, Go- new Brexit tool from Govt.

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Mrr T

12,215 posts

265 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
I think you will find after an exit with no further agreement EU tourists in the UK will have to pay for any NHS treatment.

mx5nut

5,404 posts

82 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
I don't expect this to be a surprise to anyone.

We can all expect a lot more red tape and inconvenience when working and travelling in the EU unless a substantial deal is reached.

Such great times lie ahead rolleyes
Project Fear Reality.

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Mrr T said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
I think you will find after an exit with no further agreement EU tourists in the UK will have to pay for any NHS treatment.
Who goes anywhere without travel insurance, even to EU countries?

Would you?

Zirconia

36,010 posts

284 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I expect quite a few go away with no cover. Go fund me disaster recoveries seem the thing on PH, in the past. How many risked it before Brexit and were lucky?

Cancelled my annual cover because they were being an ass over covid cover and not really going anywhere until I can get cover.

Edit. I expect cover to go up as well. At least got a good get you home policy with pre existing conditions.

monkfish1

11,049 posts

224 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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don'tbesilly said:
Mrr T said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
I think you will find after an exit with no further agreement EU tourists in the UK will have to pay for any NHS treatment.
Who goes anywhere without travel insurance, even to EU countries?

Would you?
MX5nut would.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
It will all work itself out in the end, or do you think, that like Nazi Germany believed, they could bomb the f*ck out of everyone else around them, but no one would ever bomb the f*ck out of them by return. Would that not be a rather naïve view, don't you think?
Blimey, didn't take long for WW2 to be mentioned. Who says this country can't get over it?

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Zirconia said:
I expect quite a few go away with no cover. Go fund me disaster recoveries seem the thing on PH, in the past. How many risked it before Brexit and were lucky?

Cancelled my annual cover because they were being an ass over covid cover and not really going anywhere until I can get cover.

Edit. I expect cover to go up as well. At least got a good get you home policy with pre existing conditions.
I agree I doubt many of any of the 18-25 party animals who turn the Spanish Costa, s into a sunny version of margate every year stop for one second to even thick about travel insurance

Mrr T

12,215 posts

265 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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don'tbesilly said:
Mrr T said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
I think you will find after an exit with no further agreement EU tourists in the UK will have to pay for any NHS treatment.
Who goes anywhere without travel insurance, even to EU countries?

Would you?
No I would not but do know some who do. It can get expensive if you have medical conditions.

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Mrr T said:
don'tbesilly said:
Mrr T said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
I think you will find after an exit with no further agreement EU tourists in the UK will have to pay for any NHS treatment.
Who goes anywhere without travel insurance, even to EU countries?

Would you?
No I would not but do know some who do. It can get expensive if you have medical conditions.
So avoid travel insurance because it's expensive due to medical conditions and go regardless.

People do such now, so no change due to what occurs post Dec 2020?

Can I ask what the fuss is all about then?
People take risks now and face any financial consequences, and will continue to do so.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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don'tbesilly said:
Mrr T said:
don'tbesilly said:
Mrr T said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
I think you will find after an exit with no further agreement EU tourists in the UK will have to pay for any NHS treatment.
Who goes anywhere without travel insurance, even to EU countries?

Would you?
No I would not but do know some who do. It can get expensive if you have medical conditions.
So avoid travel insurance because it's expensive due to medical conditions and go regardless.

People do such now, so no change due to what occurs post Dec 2020?

Can I ask what the fuss is all about then?
People take risks now and face any financial consequences, and will continue to do so.
Until the end of a year, we can all get a free EHIC card that gives you the right to access state-provided healthcare during a temporary stay in another EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland. That is ending, so it's either insurance or pay for treatment as you need it. If you have a pre-existing medical condition, then the cost of insurance may be prohibitive.

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
Until the end of a year, we can all get a free EHIC card that gives you the right to access state-provided healthcare during a temporary stay in another EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland. That is ending, so it's either insurance or pay for treatment as you need it. If you have a pre-existing medical condition, then the cost of insurance may be prohibitive.
Stop fibbing. That subject is still under discussion with the EU. It may come to pass, but its not the case yet. Even if that does happen I can see countries like Portugal agree a bilateral arrangement with the UK.

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
don'tbesilly said:
Mrr T said:
don'tbesilly said:
Mrr T said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
We could also charge any EU citizen in the UK the actual going rate for access to the NHS. so its all fair and balanced. So hopefully their insurance will be fir for purpose too.
I think you will find after an exit with no further agreement EU tourists in the UK will have to pay for any NHS treatment.
Who goes anywhere without travel insurance, even to EU countries?

Would you?
No I would not but do know some who do. It can get expensive if you have medical conditions.
So avoid travel insurance because it's expensive due to medical conditions and go regardless.

People do such now, so no change due to what occurs post Dec 2020?

Can I ask what the fuss is all about then?
People take risks now and face any financial consequences, and will continue to do so.
Until the end of a year, we can all get a free EHIC card that gives you the right to access state-provided healthcare during a temporary stay in another EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland. That is ending, so it's either insurance or pay for treatment as you need it. If you have a pre-existing medical condition, then the cost of insurance may be prohibitive.
So we've found someone who used to go abroad and to Europe without medical insurance?

Do you think, and rather naively if you do, that the EHIC card is a card that covers all eventualities whilst in an EU country?

As someone with pre-existing condition/s I am only too well aware of the cost of health insurance, if I can't afford the insurance I wouldn't be going abroad, and I've had an EHIC card for years, and from before having the condition/s I have now.
I still bought medical insurance knowing the limitations of the EHIC card.

The EHIC card is nothing new, who knew?

Borghetto

3,274 posts

183 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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My understanding was that bills in eu countries using EHIC were billed to the NHS.

s2art

18,937 posts

253 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Borghetto said:
My understanding was that bills in eu countries using EHIC were billed to the NHS.
Yes, and its British pensioners in Spain that practically fund their health service. I can see Spain offering a bilateral agreement too.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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s2art said:
Helicopter123 said:
Until the end of a year, we can all get a free EHIC card that gives you the right to access state-provided healthcare during a temporary stay in another EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland. That is ending, so it's either insurance or pay for treatment as you need it. If you have a pre-existing medical condition, then the cost of insurance may be prohibitive.
Stop fibbing. That subject is still under discussion with the EU. It may come to pass, but its not the case yet. Even if that does happen I can see countries like Portugal agree a bilateral arrangement with the UK.
It's part of the government advertising campaign "Check, Change, Go".

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Salty remnants day again I seehehecloud9

don'tbesilly

13,931 posts

163 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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s2art said:
Borghetto said:
My understanding was that bills in eu countries using EHIC were billed to the NHS.
Yes, and its British pensioners in Spain that practically fund their health service. I can see Spain offering a bilateral agreement too.
The Spanish have previously intimated as such, it was and is within their best interests to do so.
The same would apply to some other EU countries dependent on the tourist £ to bolster/keep their economies buoyant, Portugal/Greece being such examples.



powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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s2art said:
Helicopter123 said:
Until the end of a year, we can all get a free EHIC card that gives you the right to access state-provided healthcare during a temporary stay in another EU country, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein or Switzerland. That is ending, so it's either insurance or pay for treatment as you need it. If you have a pre-existing medical condition, then the cost of insurance may be prohibitive.
Stop fibbing. That subject is still under discussion with the EU. It may come to pass, but its not the case yet. Even if that does happen I can see countries like Portugal agree a bilateral arrangement with the UK.

And with three times as many EU nationals here than us lot over there ???? wonder who has the most to lose ???

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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powerstroke said:

And with three times as many EU nationals here than us lot over there ???? wonder who has the most to lose ???
Ah yes, British exceptionalism.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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vonuber said:
powerstroke said:

And with three times as many EU nationals here than us lot over there ???? wonder who has the most to lose ???
Ah yes, British exceptionalism.
To answer his question us because most of the people he is chuntering on about have registered and are entitled to us the NHS etc.
Unlike the ones we are talking about who are tourists there for a two week bender in the sun.

I thought these Brexiteers were meant to be brainiacs who knew what they were on about hence the sunlit uplands and unicorns due to fall into our laps the moment we got away from the eussr