Refugees / Asylum seekers crossing the channel
Discussion
Stan the Bat said:
You believe all the reasons they give then---deluded, dude.
Where did I say I believed the reasons given by migrants? I didn't.I merely quoted the reasons for people to read.
I then suggested it was 'bizarre' that a bunch of randomly guessed reasons on a forum were likely to be more accurate than multiple impartial interviews with the migrants themselves.
Learn to read posts accurately.
BrundanBianchi said:
Alucidnation said:
Should be an easy catch for the authorities now then.
Let’s hope so. They are Albanians, who I believe won’t have any valid claim for asylum. I believe that bringing them in on freighters removes the argument that they should have claimed asylum in the first place they arrived, not travel through several countries, then claim asylum here.Edited by BrundanBianchi on Wednesday 28th October 17:34
Lord Marylebone said:
Stan the Bat said:
You believe all the reasons they give then---deluded, dude.
Where did I say I believed the reasons given by migrants? I didn't.I merely quoted the reasons for people to read.
I then suggested it was 'bizarre' that a bunch of randomly guessed reasons on a forum were likely to be more accurate than multiple impartial interviews with the migrants themselves.
Learn to read posts accurately.
Mrr T said:
I think most suggest English is one of the easiest languages to learn.
How English sounds to a non-English speaker, by the awesome Adriano Celentanohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8
On the news currently,
Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
T6 vanman said:
On the news currently,
Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
They are waiting for us to send helicopters, private jets etc - to escort them here.Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
The French are doing it right. We are not.
They are economic migrants. Nothing more. Off they fk...
Troubleatmill said:
T6 vanman said:
On the news currently,
Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
They are waiting for us to send helicopters, private jets etc - to escort them here.Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
The French are doing it right. We are not.
They are economic migrants. Nothing more. Off they fk...
Troubleatmill said:
T6 vanman said:
On the news currently,
Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
They are waiting for us to send helicopters, private jets etc - to escort them here.Terrible conditions in the northern refugee camps in northern France, Muddy quagmire reminiscent to Glastonbury, being supported and provided food & clothes by British charities,
Why aren't the French housing these asylum seekers in 4* hotels rather than in squalor camps
The French are doing it right. We are not.
They are economic migrants. Nothing more. Off they fk...
but at the mo she's too busy masturbating.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/28/lily-allens-take-on...
dandarez said:
Lily Allen will be off to help them soon, and let us all know we should be ashamed on her behalf,
but at the mo she's too busy masturbating. ...
Thus confirming what we all already knew....but at the mo she's too busy masturbating. ...
fblm said:
It is very strange. A very good friend's Mrs is involved with one of these charities whose main purpose appears to me to be to get as many to the UK as possible.
Feelings evidently run high about the French.Tom Logan said:
PRTVR said:
It will only be a short stretch of coast line around dunkerque and calais, the shortest distance, a reporter was watching some launch from a beach and phoned the police, who weren't interested.
It could be stopped now if they were returned to France, if you do get to stay why set off ?
The french authorities aren't interested in stopping them, quite the opposite, they want rid and are only too happy to turn a blind eye and allow the migrants to embark on their jaunt.It could be stopped now if they were returned to France, if you do get to stay why set off ?
One other thing to consider is that the gendarmerie/douane work 'office hours' and don't normally turn out at night unless there is an emergency, anyone who has driven overnight through France will know this. The migrants will almost have a clear run from the beach during the hours of darkness for the above reason.
markcoznottz said:
BrundanBianchi said:
Alucidnation said:
Should be an easy catch for the authorities now then.
Let’s hope so. They are Albanians, who I believe won’t have any valid claim for asylum. I believe that bringing them in on freighters removes the argument that they should have claimed asylum in the first place they arrived, not travel through several countries, then claim asylum here.Edited by BrundanBianchi on Wednesday 28th October 17:34
Not to dispute the outlier over-representation of Albanian nationals in UK jails, or their undoubted, vicious and swift rise to control much of the criminal activities in most UK cities.
Lord Marylebone said:
As pointed out above, they can only be returned to France if they are stopped in French waters, which would require the French stopping them?
If we stop them in UK waters then we cannot just take them back to France.
Why? Surely illegal immigrants can be returned to the port/country from which they left? If we stop them in UK waters then we cannot just take them back to France.
Lord Marylebone said:
Where did I say I believed the reasons given by migrants? I didn't.
I merely quoted the reasons for people to read.
I then suggested it was 'bizarre' that a bunch of randomly guessed reasons on a forum were likely to be more accurate than multiple impartial interviews with the migrants themselves.
Learn to read posts accurately.
Why would they be more accurate than reasons given by people who are basing them on what is actually happening? I do not believe that anyone who was in genuine fear of persecution or death would not take refuge in the first safe place they came to - why would you if it might mean that you may invalidate your claim and be sent back? The story they give (if they truly are giving that story) about wanting to come here because we speak English as a first language is utter rubbish. I merely quoted the reasons for people to read.
I then suggested it was 'bizarre' that a bunch of randomly guessed reasons on a forum were likely to be more accurate than multiple impartial interviews with the migrants themselves.
Learn to read posts accurately.
Even if it weren't then it isn't a reason based on refugee status it's a social reason. If you are fleeing persecution, arrive at a safe place but decide that you'd be more comfortable in another place then you are not fleeing persecution the moment you depart for that other place. Legally you may be, and I'd argue that they was never envisaged as being part of the Convention on Refugees, but morally and practically you are not.
AJL308 said:
Lord Marylebone said:
As pointed out above, they can only be returned to France if they are stopped in French waters, which would require the French stopping them?
If we stop them in UK waters then we cannot just take them back to France.
Why? Surely illegal immigrants can be returned to the port/country from which they left? If we stop them in UK waters then we cannot just take them back to France.
AJL308 said:
The story they give (if they truly are giving that story) about wanting to come here because we speak English as a first language is utter rubbish.
I watched them interviewing "Immigrants" in Dunkirk on the news last night......they weren't speaking in English to the journalist but adamant they "had to get to the UK"Legacywr said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Porsche guy said:
Lord Marylebone said:
..... the reasons for wanting to come to the UK than the asylum seekers who were interviewed and gave their reasons.
Bizarre, but there you go.
You think whatever makes you happy. (or angry. I'm convinced some of you just want to be angry)
And you expect them to tell the truth after they've destroyed their passports!Bizarre, but there you go.
You think whatever makes you happy. (or angry. I'm convinced some of you just want to be angry)
When ever I've seen the dingies on the news, they're mostly full of young men
My post was stating the reasons they give for wanting to reach the UK, when interviewed by various news teams and charities while still in France.
Why are you talking about destroying passports or being 'young men'?
Digga said:
markcoznottz said:
BrundanBianchi said:
Alucidnation said:
Should be an easy catch for the authorities now then.
Let’s hope so. They are Albanians, who I believe won’t have any valid claim for asylum. I believe that bringing them in on freighters removes the argument that they should have claimed asylum in the first place they arrived, not travel through several countries, then claim asylum here.Edited by BrundanBianchi on Wednesday 28th October 17:34
Not to dispute the outlier over-representation of Albanian nationals in UK jails, or their undoubted, vicious and swift rise to control much of the criminal activities in most UK cities.
catweasle said:
AJL308 said:
The story they give (if they truly are giving that story) about wanting to come here because we speak English as a first language is utter rubbish.
I watched them interviewing "Immigrants" in Dunkirk on the news last night......they weren't speaking in English to the journalist but adamant they "had to get to the UK"The counter argument is that we're a soft touch, which people will dispute on the basis that we take few migrants compared to the rest of Europe. But that's because were the geographically the farthest not because we stop or deport more of them
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