If masks become compulsory in shops (Vol. 2)

[anonymous-user]

anonymoususer said:

I'm sorry to read this
Sometimes a simple line like your post can make you realise that its real peoples jobs that are being lost.
Earlier today my brother sent me a picture of a for sale sign in a bar window of a place we loved to go too when we were visiting him
Very sad

So long as granny lives an extra few months, that's all we worry about these days.

It's reverse Darwinism and I'd hope our leadership have to face a day in court to answer for their decisions. We've invaded countries for less than what this lot have imposed upon us.

[MikeT66]

Landcrab_Six said:

anonymoususer said:

I'm sorry to read this
Sometimes a simple line like your post can make you realise that its real peoples jobs that are being lost.
Earlier today my brother sent me a picture of a for sale sign in a bar window of a place we loved to go too when we were visiting him
Very sad

So long as granny lives an extra few months, that's all we worry about these days.

It's reverse Darwinism and I'd hope our leadership have to face a day in court to answer for their decisions. We've invaded countries for less than what this lot have imposed upon us.

In the not-too-recent past we'd have looked on in horror if another country had done this to it's people. Once this is properly over (if ever) we need a proper review of the machinations of government and their 'emergency' powers.

As for the pubs, it's not just jobs, of course - for many it's also their home, and their money and investment tied up in a now massively devalued business. You'd be brave to look at hospitality ventures now as there must be the fear that this could happen all over again in the next bad flu season, unless drastic legal changes are made.

[Thin White Duke]

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[anonymous-user]

Thin White Duke said:

If the pub is on the brink and has nothing to lose, why not open? If you get slapped with a big fine, just close the business down and declare bankruptcy.

I have wondered why retailers on the brink haven't done this, too.

Peacocks being a prime example. I'm obviously much less risk averse than most of the CEOs out there, as I'd have opened up. I'm sure you'd get enough staff to volunteer if the alternative is losing their job, too.

[Uncle John]

MikeT66 said:

Landcrab_Six said:

anonymoususer said:

I'm sorry to read this
Sometimes a simple line like your post can make you realise that its real peoples jobs that are being lost.
Earlier today my brother sent me a picture of a for sale sign in a bar window of a place we loved to go too when we were visiting him
Very sad

So long as granny lives an extra few months, that's all we worry about these days.

It's reverse Darwinism and I'd hope our leadership have to face a day in court to answer for their decisions. We've invaded countries for less than what this lot have imposed upon us.

In the not-too-recent past we'd have looked on in horror if another country had done this to it's people. Once this is properly over (if ever) we need a proper review of the machinations of government and their 'emergency' powers.

As for the pubs, it's not just jobs, of course - for many it's also their home, and their money and investment tied up in a now massively devalued business. You'd be brave to look at hospitality ventures now as there must be the fear that this could happen all over again in the next bad flu season, unless drastic legal changes are made.

It’s a good point, don’t forget though that the venture capitalist vultures will be circling to buy up lots of cheap businesses & real estate. Indirect cronyism at its finest.

[Thin White Duke]

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[Thin White Duke]

Landcrab_Six said:

Thin White Duke said:

If the pub is on the brink and has nothing to lose, why not open? If you get slapped with a big fine, just close the business down and declare bankruptcy.

I have wondered why retailers on the brink haven't done this, too.

Peacocks being a prime example. I'm obviously much less risk averse than most of the CEOs out there, as I'd have opened up. I'm sure you'd get enough staff to volunteer if the alternative is losing their job, too.

One of the big chains (Wetherspoons?) needs to open up in Tier 3 areas and just defy Boris. Isn't the owner a Brexiteer, that should put him in good stead with Boris. If I was a big business man in that league or someone like Branson and knew Boris personally I'd be leaning on him like hell.

[Thin White Duke]

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[Thin White Duke]

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[anonymous-user]

rich888 said:

nonsequitur said:

stevensdrs said:

Today I saw a queue of about 12 people standing outside M&S food shop in the pouring rain, all wearing masks! Inside of Aldi, there were more people not wearing the mask than i normally see. I also saw more people in the car park wearing the mask and more than usual driving with a mask on. It seems mask use outside is on the increase while inside it is reducing. Why that would be I have no idea.

I believe that it is compulsory to wear a mask when waiting to enter a M&S food store. No mask, no entry, no quinoa.

That's not true, I walked into M&S store last week with the wife, who dragged me all the way through the store to the food hall whereupon she bought a load of very tasty nibbles if I might say so myself, and no one approached me or said anything, even though I had forgotten to put the lanyard on when I walked in.

It's not the job of the shop or store to enforce the silly regulations, that is the job for the police and council jobsworths to enforce. Shops need to understand that they exist to serve us, not the other way around, and if they want our money they had better damn well be nice to us, or we will walk out of the door and buy from a rival, or from that big elephant trampling the high-street called Amazon - Dunelm are you listening?

Didn’t your missus remind you?
Are you proud of yourself, increasing the risk (however small) of you vivid covid to fellow shoppers?
Perhaps old & vulnerable.
Remember next time

[anonymous-user]

Jimboka said:

Didn’t your missus remind you?
Are you proud of yourself, increasing the risk (however small) of you vivid covid to fellow shoppers?
Perhaps old & vulnerable.
Remember next time

Did you care this much for society pre Covid?

I ask as there’s a contingent on here that virtue signal constantly (I blame it in the female hormones in tap water and BPD in plastics).

I take it you prefer this new normal of constant rules and monitoring with big brother watching you all the time for minor transgressions? Enforced closures of businesses and job losses with pseudo scientific cloth masks which are now our saviour like some Deus ex machina plot twist in a drama...

If this was in the history books hundreds of years ago and we looked back, the majority would be laughing at the naïveté of the population into this new belief system.

[bobbysmithy]

1974nc said:

Did you care this much for society pre Covid?

I ask as there’s a contingent on here that virtue signal constantly (I blame it in the female hormones in tap water and BPD in plastics).

I take it you prefer this new normal of constant rules and monitoring with big brother watching you all the time for minor transgressions? Enforced closures of businesses and job losses with pseudo scientific cloth masks which are now our saviour like some Deus ex machina plot twist in a drama...

If this was in the history books hundreds of years ago and we looked back, the majority would be laughing at the naïveté of the population into this new belief system.

Was there a virus that spread very quickly pre covid?

[anonymous-user]

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[Seattaken]

Laughing at all the IT consultants types on here puzzled by humans not being rational.

[TellYaWhatItIs]

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[Muncher]

They say if it only saves one life, they say it doesn’t matter if we don’t actually have any evidence, so mask advocates, crack on, after you....


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-552699...

China's aviation regulator has recommended cabin crew wear disposable nappies and avoid using the toilet to cut the risk of Covid-19 infection.

The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines.

The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations.

Globally, airlines and airports have been making big changes to how they operate to get passengers flying again.

The Civil Aviation Administration of China laid out its advice in a new 49-page set of guidelines for airlines to prevent the spread of coronavirus.

The recommendation on nappies applies to charter flights to and from places where infections exceed 500 in every one million people.

[semisane]

1974nc said:

Did you care this much for society pre Covid?

I ask as there’s a contingent on here that virtue signal constantly (I blame it in the female hormones in tap water and BPD in plastics).

I take it you prefer this new normal of constant rules and monitoring with big brother watching you all the time for minor transgressions? Enforced closures of businesses and job losses with pseudo scientific cloth masks which are now our saviour like some Deus ex machina plot twist in a drama...

If this was in the history books hundreds of years ago and we looked back, the majority would be laughing at the naïveté of the population into this new belief system.

Just another one of your wacky theories or do you have anything to back up the bold ?

As for the rest of your post, do you not know that the planet is in the grips of a pandemic which has the potential to bring health services to their knees ?

[anonymous-user]

semisane said:

Just another one of your wacky theories or do you have anything to back up the bold ?

As for the rest of your post, do you not know that the planet is in the grips of a pandemic which has the potential to bring health services to their knees ?

Back up hormones in tap water and BPD in plastics?

Do you want me to also back up that today is Friday?

It's been scientific knowledge for bloody years!!!