Where to go for best odds on US election?
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Lord Marylebone said:
Partyvan said:
I think in fairness yes our politics are dominated by the right-of-centre, but that is more down to a failure of the Labour party than the success of the Tories. Labour has an obsession with politics that are deeply unpopular like anti-Zionism, multiculturalism, pro-immigration, feminism, socialism, trade unionism etc. It's all very unpalatable to pretty much anyone outside of London, as proven in the last election.
As for the rest of society, the sphere of celebrities, corporate image and media is very left wing dominated. All very "diversity", "equality", politically correct and pro-left wing. I think this is what people refer to about "woke" society. How legitimate views and ideas are silenced, shut down and no-platformed if they are not singing off the leftie hymn sheet. It's for this reason I like Trump, he is the antithesis to all of this PC nonsense. I hope he wins, but I don't believe he will.
‘PC nonsense’ can be summed up quite simply as:As for the rest of society, the sphere of celebrities, corporate image and media is very left wing dominated. All very "diversity", "equality", politically correct and pro-left wing. I think this is what people refer to about "woke" society. How legitimate views and ideas are silenced, shut down and no-platformed if they are not singing off the leftie hymn sheet. It's for this reason I like Trump, he is the antithesis to all of this PC nonsense. I hope he wins, but I don't believe he will.
You having to make either no changes, or extremely tiny changes to your own life, to make other humans feel more included or welcome.
If you think that’s a bad thing, then it speaks volumes about you as person I’m afraid.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Wednesday 28th October 18:31
You say "If you think that’s a bad thing, then it speaks volumes about you as person I’m afraid." Comments like that are exactly why people think the WOKE/PC brigade are so self righteous.
blackrabbit said:
Small changes ha ha. PC/WOKE nonsense is basically wealth re-distribution and social engineering to make wealthy entitled liberals/government workers (themselves not impacted) feel better.
You say "If you think that’s a bad thing, then it speaks volumes about you as person I’m afraid." Comments like that are exactly why people think the WOKE/PC brigade are so self righteous.
What changes have you personally had to make in your life to be more politically correct?You say "If you think that’s a bad thing, then it speaks volumes about you as person I’m afraid." Comments like that are exactly why people think the WOKE/PC brigade are so self righteous.
Lord Marylebone said:
What changes have you personally had to make in your life to be more politically correct?
I can't speak for BlackRabbit but a prime example in the news today is the security guard from Manchester Arena did not challenge the suicide bomber for fear of being labelled racist. His challenge may have saved dozens of lives.The ineptitude of the police or a security guard wasn’t what I asked about. We will never know if the real reason they were largely useless was truly becuase they were worrying about racism or whether it is simply an excuse for their poor performance and missed opportunities.
I asked how political correctness has personally affected the other poster, or you, personally.
I ask this, becuase I often find that when people bang on about political correctness, they genuinely don’t have any decent examples of how it has impacted their life in any meaningful way.
Political correctness generally means nothing more than being kind to other humans.
Basically, don’t discriminate, or be a dick to someone just becuase they are Gay, Lesbian, LGBT, brown, black, gender fluid, a minority, or want to change from male to female, etc
It really doesn’t mean anymore much more than that.
It isn’t difficult.
I asked how political correctness has personally affected the other poster, or you, personally.
I ask this, becuase I often find that when people bang on about political correctness, they genuinely don’t have any decent examples of how it has impacted their life in any meaningful way.
Political correctness generally means nothing more than being kind to other humans.
Basically, don’t discriminate, or be a dick to someone just becuase they are Gay, Lesbian, LGBT, brown, black, gender fluid, a minority, or want to change from male to female, etc
It really doesn’t mean anymore much more than that.
It isn’t difficult.
Lord Marylebone said:
Political correctness generally means nothing more than being kind to other humans.
It isn’t difficult.
Except it isn’t. It isn’t difficult.
It’s been weaponised to make others feel intimidated (essentially bullied from having an opinion).
It’s a method to control people based on a set of flawed ideals which a shouty minority say should be observed yet were never agreed to by the masses.
You cannot please everyone as everyone has their own opinions, experiences and priorities. This is why the shouty idealistic hypocrites get everyone else’s backs up. They’re quick to point out flaws of others when it works to their own advantage yet they do something similar themselves later on. It’s double standards and control.
Edited by Anubis on Thursday 29th October 07:48
Lord Marylebone said:
What changes have you personally had to make in your life to be more politically correct?
I am in the US right now so maybe not all applies in UK but here are some to add to what others have said:My kids couldn't get into the local charter school in my area as the rules were changed to turn acceptance from grade based into a lottery as "too many kids from affluent/white homes" were getting in. Result is I have to pay 35k plus a year for private schools even though 2 years ago the kids would have easily got in with their high grades.
College admission boards taken over by the left who are doing all then can to pursue a political correct admissions policy similar to the issue above with school lotteries.
My company forced me to hire a minority woman into a Director position in IT from marketing department to meet a quota. This resulted in my best manager leaving as they didn't get the position. We now have someone with 0 years IT experience managing a team of 7 deeply skilled IT professionals many with better educations too. Our workloads have increased as the new hire has no experience and cannot be criticized.
Life is becoming more dangerous as police are less likely to stop criminals and answer emergency calls proactively as they will be undermined by their own leaders/mayors. Similar to the Manchester bomber. For this reason we have bought a gun in our house which 5 years ago we would have never contemplated and hated the idea of 5 years ago.
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I don't think you realize that political correctness has and is being turned into preferential treatment at the expense of the majority.
Edited by blackrabbit on Thursday 29th October 11:59
Edited by blackrabbit on Thursday 29th October 12:01
8% of black voters gave Trump their vote last time. You reckon the BLM movement will change this completely in favour of Trump? You really believe that?
blackrabbit said:
Just because that link says more elderly black people are voting does not mean they are voting for Biden. I expect a higher portion of elderly black voters to vote for Trump this time round as so many are against the progressive/BLM agenda (but afraid to say so) and think Trump best for economy. The left/progressives have so dominated the media and pushed BLM that many are keeping quiet on their voting intentions. Biden did terribly in the last debate too and now the emails showing potential Biden family corruption very damaging so it will be interesting to see where the undecideds go.
I think the election will be way closer than the polling suggests and Trump may even potentially win bigger than last time if the silent majority is large enough. Also not convinced there is so much enthusiasm for Biden outside of social media.
I think the election will be way closer than the polling suggests and Trump may even potentially win bigger than last time if the silent majority is large enough. Also not convinced there is so much enthusiasm for Biden outside of social media.
Edited by blackrabbit on Tuesday 27th October 20:19
Edited by blackrabbit on Tuesday 27th October 20:20
BlackLabel said:
8% of black voters gave Trump their vote last time. You reckon the BLM movement will change this completely in favour of Trump? You really believe that?
No of course not, what I do expect is that 8% number to be closer to 20% this election. If that number even gets to 16% Trump wins the election ......... blackrabbit said:
Just because that link says more elderly black people are voting does not mean they are voting for Biden. I expect a higher portion of elderly black voters to vote for Trump this time round as so many are against the progressive/BLM agenda (but afraid to say so) and think Trump best for economy. The left/progressives have so dominated the media and pushed BLM that many are keeping quiet on their voting intentions. Biden did terribly in the last debate too and now the emails showing potential Biden family corruption very damaging so it will be interesting to see where the undecideds go.
I think the election will be way closer than the polling suggests and Trump may even potentially win bigger than last time if the silent majority is large enough. Also not convinced there is so much enthusiasm for Biden outside of social media.
I think the election will be way closer than the polling suggests and Trump may even potentially win bigger than last time if the silent majority is large enough. Also not convinced there is so much enthusiasm for Biden outside of social media.
Edited by blackrabbit on Tuesday 27th October 20:19
Edited by blackrabbit on Tuesday 27th October 20:20
Partyvan said:
Suddenly I'm feeling uneasy about the grand I've put on Biden!
Four years ago, I'd had a couple of very successful bets on outlier events and thought I'd play safe for the next one. The odds weren't anything to write home about but Clinton was a shoo-in and it was going to be easy money...
clive_candy said:
Four years ago, I'd had a couple of very successful bets on outlier events and thought I'd play safe for the next one.
The odds weren't anything to write home about but Clinton was a shoo-in and it was going to be easy money...
Exactly.The odds weren't anything to write home about but Clinton was a shoo-in and it was going to be easy money...
I think Trump is close enough to cause an upset
Partyvan said:
Penelope Stopit said:
What was the cash out bet - 540 Trump @ 15/8 ???
I went in at £1k with £1600 returnCashed out at £1k just now
I'm a gambler
Biden is on the drift isn't he ? Biden odds to win are better odds than when you backed him
There is no cash out on Biden
How did you cash out on a drifter ?
If Biden odds had tightened you could have cashed out on him
Surely you're left holding the baby unless you backed Trump
I must be missing something
Penelope Stopit said:
Youv'e lost me there
I'm a gambler
Biden is on the drift isn't he ? Biden odds to win are better odds than when you backed him
There is no cash out on Biden
How did you cash out on a drifter ?
If Biden odds had tightened you could have cashed out on him
Surely you're left holding the baby unless you backed Trump
I must be missing something
I initially thought Biden was almost sure to win so I put £1k downI'm a gambler
Biden is on the drift isn't he ? Biden odds to win are better odds than when you backed him
There is no cash out on Biden
How did you cash out on a drifter ?
If Biden odds had tightened you could have cashed out on him
Surely you're left holding the baby unless you backed Trump
I must be missing something
The most recent polls show the gap is closing to the point where I believe (not the bookies) that Trump has a good chance of winning. The bookies odds hadn't changed AFAIK, so I cashed out.
No point gambling £1k on a £600 return, on something I don't think is a dead cert!
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