How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 15)

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amusingduck

9,396 posts

136 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Whohe123 said:
Where on earth is the UK going to source those 39 (thirty nine) books from now?!?!

https://ebooks.direct/collections/our-inventory

Oh yeah, Amazon hehe

Sad news.

paulrockliffe

15,698 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Whohe123 said:
The first of many companies?

https://twitter.com/EbooksDirect/status/1318176315...


Since the UK will no longer be operating in cooperation with EU tax bodies after the transition period ends, at that point the changes in the article linked to above will take effect. Those changes mean that companies functioning as online marketplaces (OMPs) selling directly to UK customers must (at considerable expense) register with the UK VAT office, and file remittance paperwork with the VAT office for every item sold. (This paperwork would have to be filed even when "selling" items that are below the VAT thresholds, or free. We would be entirely willing to simply decline to charge UK customers VAT, but the new regulations won't permit that.)
It doesn't cost anything to register for VAT and they can use exactly the same sales records that they need to keep now to submit their returns, they don't need to file something for every transaction.

While it's obviously terrible news, here's some good news to lift the mood:

https://order-order.com/2020/10/20/belgian-life-sc...

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
Sad news. There will be more.
amusingduck said:
Whohe123 said:
Where on earth is the UK going to source those 39 (thirty nine) books from now?!?!

https://ebooks.direct/collections/our-inventory

Oh yeah, Amazon hehe

Sad news.
Another Budgie own goal. laugh

Digga

40,316 posts

283 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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paulrockliffe said:
It doesn't cost anything to register for VAT and they can use exactly the same sales records that they need to keep now to submit their returns, they don't need to file something for every transaction.

While it's obviously terrible news, here's some good news to lift the mood:

https://order-order.com/2020/10/20/belgian-life-sc...
See also: https://twitter.com/Jefferson_MFG/status/131774350...

Jefferson on twitter said:
German agricultural machinery manufacturer CLAAS underlines its commitment to the UK with official opening of new £20 million headquarters in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk

hutchst

3,700 posts

96 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
Whohe123 said:
The first of many companies?

https://twitter.com/EbooksDirect/status/1318176315...


Since the UK will no longer be operating in cooperation with EU tax bodies after the transition period ends, at that point the changes in the article linked to above will take effect. Those changes mean that companies functioning as online marketplaces (OMPs) selling directly to UK customers must (at considerable expense) register with the UK VAT office, and file remittance paperwork with the VAT office for every item sold. (This paperwork would have to be filed even when "selling" items that are below the VAT thresholds, or free. We would be entirely willing to simply decline to charge UK customers VAT, but the new regulations won't permit that.)
Sad news. There will be more.
...opportunities for British-based and properly registered companies to step in and pick up the business. Sad indeed.

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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rockin said:
You've only responded to one aspect of the problem by pointing out what the UK doesn't have to offer.

I asked what you think UK does have to offer - and you've come up with nothing. THAT's the problem.
His point is that it has the square root of bugger all to do with Brexit. Is it really that hard to grasp?

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
Whohe123 said:
The first of many companies?

https://twitter.com/EbooksDirect/status/1318176315...


Since the UK will no longer be operating in cooperation with EU tax bodies after the transition period ends, at that point the changes in the article linked to above will take effect. Those changes mean that companies functioning as online marketplaces (OMPs) selling directly to UK customers must (at considerable expense) register with the UK VAT office, and file remittance paperwork with the VAT office for every item sold. (This paperwork would have to be filed even when "selling" items that are below the VAT thresholds, or free. We would be entirely willing to simply decline to charge UK customers VAT, but the new regulations won't permit that.)
Sad news. There will be more.
In their letter they've said that the amount of sales they make to the UK is so small it doesn't justify the "huge expense" of being VAT registered in the UK... You might want to consider what that means. roflroflrofl

How long did you have to trawl the internet to find that gem?

Edited by Tuna on Tuesday 20th October 14:49

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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paulrockliffe said:
It doesn't cost anything to register for VAT and they can use exactly the same sales records that they need to keep now to submit their returns, they don't need to file something for every transaction.

While it's obviously terrible news, here's some good news to lift the mood:

https://order-order.com/2020/10/20/belgian-life-sc...
"An industry insider tells Guido the firm, ‘UCB’, embarked on a downsizing initiative in which they attempted to shut down their UK operations entirely and shift everything to Belgium, only for the highly-skilled workforce to refuse to move. In the end they gave up, and so the pharmacologists have announced £1 billion of new investment on a 47-acre British campus." laugh

Remember the poster who's mate was moving with the big pharma abroad? Looks like he was billy no mates.

stongle

5,910 posts

162 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Tuna said:
rockin said:
You've only responded to one aspect of the problem by pointing out what the UK doesn't have to offer.

I asked what you think UK does have to offer - and you've come up with nothing. THAT's the problem.
His point is that it has the square root of bugger all to do with Brexit. Is it really that hard to grasp?
Indeed, whatever I think I can't jump it into the FTSE100; even if I think Stongle Ltd is worth 3trillion pounds.

Its fine to take an irrelevant look at Brexit, when you know what you are talking about... sadly very few do. I miss Brooking.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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jsf said:
The fawning replies to that tweet are hilarious... as is the tweet itself. "Our doors are open...".. mate, you're the one on the outside. This is from the team that couldn't be bothered to turn up to half the meetings.

chrispmartha

15,445 posts

129 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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crankedup said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
crankedup said:
I find it tragic that some in here think that they are ‘hard done by’ and the U.K. leaving the EU club is somehow the end of the World.
Imagine being born around 1900 for a few minutes and what they had to live with and through,!!
And here are concerned about the price of advocado. rolleyes
First World problems eh!
Did you just mention the war?
I suppose I might have inferred it with my misspelling of avocado. Such slips have many people frothing, guns at dawn.
I still enjoy avocado with prawns, and I really don’t care much about food fashion, I will keep buying them whatever the trade tariff whistle
Implied not inferred.

Standards slipping round here.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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jsf said:
Mr Barnier, what is it you'd like to talk about? Put it out there for all to see!

Oh! You'd like to reiterate the same old line, the one we've told you we cannot accept.

He's like that car insurer who, after jacking up your renewal price and you've gone elsewhere, still tries to get your business after all that!

Time. Waster. Do. One.


crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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chrispmartha said:
crankedup said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
crankedup said:
I find it tragic that some in here think that they are ‘hard done by’ and the U.K. leaving the EU club is somehow the end of the World.
Imagine being born around 1900 for a few minutes and what they had to live with and through,!!
And here are concerned about the price of advocado. rolleyes
First World problems eh!
Did you just mention the war?
I suppose I might have inferred it with my misspelling of avocado. Such slips have many people frothing, guns at dawn.
I still enjoy avocado with prawns, and I really don’t care much about food fashion, I will keep buying them whatever the trade tariff whistle
Implied not inferred.

Standards slipping round here.
Good post.
Yes you are absolutely correct, I certainly did use the incorrect word, obviously. I really must be much more careful in the future.

Scolmore

2,722 posts

192 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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amusingduck said:
Where on earth is the UK going to source those 39 (thirty nine) books from now?!?!

https://ebooks.direct/collections/our-inventory

Oh yeah, Amazon hehe

Sad news.
You mean I can still buy the Feline Wizards series? Well thank goodness for that, for a nasty moment...

Some posters seeming pretty desperate of late

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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crankedup said:
Good post.
Yes you are absolutely correct, I certainly did use the incorrect word, obviously. I really must be much more careful in the future.
Liquid lunch?

chrispmartha

15,445 posts

129 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
crankedup said:
Good post.
Yes you are absolutely correct, I certainly did use the incorrect word, obviously. I really must be much more careful in the future.
Liquid lunch?
He’s been on those Advocado cocktails

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Scolmore said:
amusingduck said:
Where on earth is the UK going to source those 39 (thirty nine) books from now?!?!

https://ebooks.direct/collections/our-inventory

Oh yeah, Amazon hehe

Sad news.
You mean I can still buy the Feline Wizards series? Well thank goodness for that, for a nasty moment...

Some posters seeming pretty desperate of late
Feline WIzards you say.... hmmm... The Pistonheads Secret Santa event is just around the corner - and that could make a great gift.

You can sign up here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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I reckon the deal is pretty much done, and they're now choreographing the best way for each to enable the other to climb down with as much remaining credibility as possible.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 20th October 2020
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Tuna said:
His point is that it has the square root of bugger all to do with Brexit. Is it really that hard to grasp?
And my point is that he's fundamentally wrong. Further, not one of you has been able to give any hint of where UK's future growth will come from.

Boris has promised new prosperity in the sunlit uplands yet there's absolutely no indication of how it's going to be delivered. This from two weeks ago,

"The Prime Minister has called on British businesses to exploit the new opportunities he believes leaving the European Union will bring to the UK."

Only true believers can see the light...
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