Angela Rayner calls Tory MP "Scum"
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Unknown_User said:
And a Home Sec should understand counter-terrorism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NL-zN63BBQ
"fundamental changes to tackle counter-terrorism............."
Ah yes, the wonderful Priti.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NL-zN63BBQ
"fundamental changes to tackle counter-terrorism............."
" We will support the victims of counter-terrorism".
Does that mean she's going to offer counselling to the terrorists who've had their doors kicked in at daft o'clock in the morning by a gang of heavily armed cops and had a G36 shoved in their face while still in their jimjams ?
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:768 said:
She does, but she thinks it's where you have your first kid.
Do you have similar views about anyone who's a single parent at a young age or is it entirely down to which political party they support?Isn’t that exactly what some on here are calling for people to do yet it seems she’s still derided for her past?
768 said:
Red 4 said:
OK, but that is very different to what you said earlier. I'm pretty sure Rayner knows what a school is.
She does, but she thinks it's where you have your first kid.As others have said, despite the fact that she may not have had the best start in life she's done pretty well for herself.
Maybe you shouldn't be so keen to criticise.
People who live in glass houses, etc etc.
chrispmartha said:
Take politics out of it, Rayner had a tough upbringing and maybe made some bad choices as a kid but pulled herself out of it and had a successful career.
Isn’t that exactly what some on here are calling for people to do yet it seems she’s still derided for her past?
Exactly.Isn’t that exactly what some on here are calling for people to do yet it seems she’s still derided for her past?
Sit back on benefits and you're "feckless" and worse.
Knuckle down and drag yourself up and work your way to becoming deputy leader of a major political party and you're still in the wrong.
Makes you wonder what people expect
768 said:
Red 4 said:
Maybe you shouldn't be so keen to criticise.
People who live in glass houses, etc etc.
Not the usual PH brag, but I've got a GCSE.People who live in glass houses, etc etc.
Edited by 768 on Saturday 24th October 13:22
I'm guessing you're not The Deputy Leader of The Labour Party, or even a lowly MP.
I don't think Rayner will be looking down the back of sofa for a few pence or wondering where her next meal will be coming from, somehow.
That's not to say she may not have done that at one time.
chrispmartha said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:768 said:
She does, but she thinks it's where you have your first kid.
Do you have similar views about anyone who's a single parent at a young age or is it entirely down to which political party they support?Isn’t that exactly what some on here are calling for people to do yet it seems she’s still derided for her past?
B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
Wombat3 said:
chrispmartha said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:768 said:
She does, but she thinks it's where you have your first kid.
Do you have similar views about anyone who's a single parent at a young age or is it entirely down to which political party they support?Isn’t that exactly what some on here are calling for people to do yet it seems she’s still derided for her past?
B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:chrispmartha said:
Take politics out of it, Rayner had a tough upbringing and maybe made some bad choices as a kid but pulled herself out of it and had a successful career.
Isn’t that exactly what some on here are calling for people to do yet it seems she’s still derided for her past?
Exactly.Isn’t that exactly what some on here are calling for people to do yet it seems she’s still derided for her past?
Sit back on benefits and you're "feckless" and worse.
Knuckle down and drag yourself up and work your way to becoming deputy leader of a major political party and you're still in the wrong.
Makes you wonder what people expect
Wombat3 said:
Well now lets have a look at Ms Rayner's "successful career"
B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
OK, I didn't know about her past so maybe I have underestimated her.B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
I've been working long hours for decades and still do not command that kind of salary. So she's more talented than I thought.
Wombat3 said:
Well now lets have a look at Ms Rayner's "successful career"
B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
TLDR: She got pregnant at 16 and now she earns more than me. And I just can't hack it! B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
Bitter and twisted or what!
Wombat3 said:
Well now lets have a look at Ms Rayner's "successful career"
B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
You phrase it as if it's something unique to Rayner or unique to Labour.B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
Take out the union part and substitute it with some other local political role and I think you could probably chart a similar career path for a lot of politicians regardless of party.
As I said to another poster if you're only saying it because it's Rayner and it's Labour perhaps have a think why that might be.
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant Wombat 3.
You appear to be saying that Rayner has not done a job that you consider worthy.
What sort of jobs are those ? Working in IT perhaps, if this place is anything to go by.
Oh, hang on. Rayner needed to be a powerfully built Company Director to succeed in politics.
That's what you're saying. Got it.
Perhaps you should consider the fact that she has been successful despite a poor education and raising 3 children.
That takes some doing, whether you like it or not.
PS. I was public sector and I can assure of this - I didn't steal a living.
My missus is public sector. She is currently working daft, absolutely ridiculous hours, as part of the NHS Covid response. It is beginning to make her ill.
You clearly have an opinion of the public sector without really knowing much about it.
You appear to be saying that Rayner has not done a job that you consider worthy.
What sort of jobs are those ? Working in IT perhaps, if this place is anything to go by.
Oh, hang on. Rayner needed to be a powerfully built Company Director to succeed in politics.
That's what you're saying. Got it.
Perhaps you should consider the fact that she has been successful despite a poor education and raising 3 children.
That takes some doing, whether you like it or not.
PS. I was public sector and I can assure of this - I didn't steal a living.
My missus is public sector. She is currently working daft, absolutely ridiculous hours, as part of the NHS Covid response. It is beginning to make her ill.
You clearly have an opinion of the public sector without really knowing much about it.
Wombat3 said:
Escy said:
It's nice we want high standards of previous life experience for our MP's. Only 5-6 years experience in social care you say?
How does that stack up compared to Boris Johnsons career trajectory?
His Wiki page will take you a lot longer to read than hers (!)How does that stack up compared to Boris Johnsons career trajectory?
Wombat3 said:
Well now lets have a look at Ms Rayner's "successful career"
B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
Wowsers...!!!B 1980
1996 (@ 16) left school when pregnant.
Subsequently trained as a Social care worker & worked for Stockport council can't see when that started but lets be generous & say in 2000
Subsequently became union Rep for unison & after that Convener for the whole North West. One can only imagine what percentage of her time was spent on Social care by that time but if most union wallahs are to be used an example, not very much would be the answer. Unison is, of course the public sector union.
Married a Unison bod in 2010 & had two further kids, one prematurely so much of the next 4 or 5 years taken up with that before entering parliament in 2015.
So overall she's probably done maybe 5 or 6 years actual work 9-5, 5 days a week working for a local council before getting heavily involved in Union activities & then politics.
Never been near a business, & therefore knows only what she has learned either second/third hand or through dogma/doctrine. In other words S.F.A.
The only use of the word "successful" that applies to her is the £80K a year she relieves the taxpayer of.
Absolutely stealing a living.
Don't you come across as the green eyed monster!
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