45th President of the United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 10)
Discussion
Countdown said:
He might do. I don't think anybody doubts his skill in convincing a large section of the US electorate that he's the best candidate, even after 230,000 US citizens died from something he said was a hoax as well as 20 million unemployed. That doesn't make him any less of a vile turd.
This is exactly how Trump will win (if he does), and for some reason the left doesn't seem to understand it.It is a lie - a complete fabrication. He categorically did not call COVID a hoax. His supporters love it when you post this garbage. They rave about it. It entrenches them, justifies all the claims of 'fake news' and the 'biased media.'
You couldn't do Trump more favours if you tried.
Crafty_ said:
Tom Logan said:
This, plus massive voter disenfranchisement.
There is no sign of that so far, number of people voting is up massively. Add in a now-hostile SC working to limit voting and the scene is set for a stolen election even with the extra turnout this time.
MX5Biologist said:
Don't think President Trump reads Pistonheads. Nothing stated here will make the slightest bit of difference.
Clearly I'm not just talking about Pistonheads for the love of Christ. I thought that would have been blindingly obvious. The post I quoted is just an illustration of the wider problem.minimoog said:
I'm sure you do. Doesn't change the fact he's done f
k all to address the pandemic.
I have absolutely no idea how you've got me as a Trump supporter from the post I made. I can't stand the man.k all to address the pandemic.If you can't see that posting factually false information about the President, whose supporters are incredibly adversarial, focused and constantly primed on 'fake news and the lies of the liberals' - is stupid, then I can't tell you much.
ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
If you can't see that posting factually false information about the President, whose supporters are incredibly adversarial, focused and constantly primed on 'fake news and the lies of the liberals' - is stupid, then I can't tell you much.
If you can't see that it matters not one jot to his cultists what 'the left' say or don't say, be it the truth, lies, or something in between, then I can't tell you much.minimoog said:
If you can't see that it matters not one jot to his cultists what 'the left' say or don't say, be it the truth, lies, or something in between, then I can't tell you much.
It's truly amazing that after the 2016 election, you think that this has anything to do with the cultists.ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
It's truly amazing that after the 2016 election, you think that this has anything to do with the cultists.
If they're the sort of people who, in the face of what Trump is and does, will vote for him because 'the left' misquote him calling COVID a hoax, then they're cultists. They aren't rational voters.minimoog said:
If they're the sort of people who, in the face of what Trump is and does, will vote for him because 'the left' misquote him calling COVID a hoax, then they're cultists. They aren't rational voters.
Which is nothing to do with what I posted and you quoted. The cultists will vote for him no matter what. What they think is unimportant.The problem is the leaning moderate, who might have stayed home and not voted - but is listening to the ground chatter.
I honestly can't believe that in this day and age we have to go over this again. It's Hilary calling Trump supporters a 'basket of deplorables' all over again. It's Corbyn and Momentum declaring the Tories morally bankrupt.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 28th October 00:50
Apropos of nothing, I watched ”Newnight” tonight, and Emily Maitlis, interviewed John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N.
Discussing the rights and wrongs of Trump’s impeachment, Mr. Bolton said that the impeachment was handled badly, and may possibly have carried more weight if Nancy Pelosi had handled it better.
He went on to say that if you read his book about it, you’d understand what he meant.
Ms. Maitlis inquired about his royalties from the book, and Mr. Bolton said to her, “Do you work for free?”
Unbelievably, she replied, “I don’t know what that means!”
I find it hard to swallow that Ms. Maitlis could deny knowing what virtually everyone in the world knows, that working for free means that you do something for no remuneration.
Okay, it may not strictly fit with the thread, but I thought that it was a remarkable statement.
Discussing the rights and wrongs of Trump’s impeachment, Mr. Bolton said that the impeachment was handled badly, and may possibly have carried more weight if Nancy Pelosi had handled it better.
He went on to say that if you read his book about it, you’d understand what he meant.
Ms. Maitlis inquired about his royalties from the book, and Mr. Bolton said to her, “Do you work for free?”
Unbelievably, she replied, “I don’t know what that means!”
I find it hard to swallow that Ms. Maitlis could deny knowing what virtually everyone in the world knows, that working for free means that you do something for no remuneration.
Okay, it may not strictly fit with the thread, but I thought that it was a remarkable statement.
paulguitar said:
Centurion07 said:
I don't know why you guys bother. 
If somebody is here for a genuine discussion they don't tend to start by a) chanting "MAGA!!!" as their opening post and b) slating the opposition for being a hairsniffer/mentally ill/corrupt etc etc.
IF Trump manages to win (god help us) I'll have to block PH from all my devices as I don't think my sanity could take the mass of idiots celebrating Der Fuhrer.
Most of the posters here are pretty clued up, we've even had a couple of trump supporters who accept he is an absolute bellend, but have almost come out and admitted that they are prepared to tolerate him because they feel slightly better off financially or are born Republicans.If somebody is here for a genuine discussion they don't tend to start by a) chanting "MAGA!!!" as their opening post and b) slating the opposition for being a hairsniffer/mentally ill/corrupt etc etc.
IF Trump manages to win (god help us) I'll have to block PH from all my devices as I don't think my sanity could take the mass of idiots celebrating Der Fuhrer.
I get the feeling that the others are just mostly here for the wind-up. It's a genuine struggle to even try to comprehend the idea that there could be British trump supporters. What a genuine embarrassment! I think as we have seen with the likes of Lemsip and Powerstroke, disigty, and a handful of others, they are just radicalized right-wingers who incorrectly think that trump/Biden is a 'right/left' thing and that as right-wing extremists, they have a duty to support the mandarin muppet.
minimoog said:
ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
If you can't see that posting factually false information about the President, whose supporters are incredibly adversarial, focused and constantly primed on 'fake news and the lies of the liberals' - is stupid, then I can't tell you much.
If you can't see that it matters not one jot to his cultists what 'the left' say or don't say, be it the truth, lies, or something in between, then I can't tell you much.Plus, trump called Coronovirus the Democrats new hoax, after claiming his impeachment was one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5TZ6fTYrsE
But then here I am replying to one of those sad people, giving them the attention they crave...
An accurate appraisal of trump
For many Democrats, Pelosi is the face of the resistance to President Donald Trump. From clashes over government shutdowns to impeachment to yelling matches in the White House and publicly tearing up a copy of his State of the Union address, Pelosi has been Trump’s chief antagonist. There have been acrimonious relationships between presidents and House speakers before, but never one so public or so bitter. It’s been over a year since the two have spoken.
“My experience with the president is that he has, really, almost a historic lack of knowledge about the issues and the legislative process,” Pelosi told POLITICO in an interview on Friday. “He has no relationship, no affiliation with fact, data, truth or evidence. And he has a very small view of the future.”
Pelosi will no longer be the party’s leader if Biden wins the White House on Nov. 3, but her influence may only grow. If Democrats also win the Senate, the incoming president is expected to rely heavily on the Democratic agenda passed by the House that’s been blocked by Trump and Mitch McConnell during the last two years. On everything from health care to climate change to money in politics, the markers laid down by House Democrats may prove every bit as important as the policy goals Biden laid out during the campaign
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/pelosi-sp...
For many Democrats, Pelosi is the face of the resistance to President Donald Trump. From clashes over government shutdowns to impeachment to yelling matches in the White House and publicly tearing up a copy of his State of the Union address, Pelosi has been Trump’s chief antagonist. There have been acrimonious relationships between presidents and House speakers before, but never one so public or so bitter. It’s been over a year since the two have spoken.
“My experience with the president is that he has, really, almost a historic lack of knowledge about the issues and the legislative process,” Pelosi told POLITICO in an interview on Friday. “He has no relationship, no affiliation with fact, data, truth or evidence. And he has a very small view of the future.”
Pelosi will no longer be the party’s leader if Biden wins the White House on Nov. 3, but her influence may only grow. If Democrats also win the Senate, the incoming president is expected to rely heavily on the Democratic agenda passed by the House that’s been blocked by Trump and Mitch McConnell during the last two years. On everything from health care to climate change to money in politics, the markers laid down by House Democrats may prove every bit as important as the policy goals Biden laid out during the campaign
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/26/pelosi-sp...
looks like team trump did a decent job in trying to obstruct mail in voting
Of the 29 states that require mail-in ballots to arrive on or before Election Day, 28 have since late July seen periods of average USPS delivery times exceeding six days.
among them are battleground states like Florida, Arizona, Wisconsin and Georgia.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-delayed-is-your-m...
USPS leadership have received a sweeping set of orders from a federal judge, laying out ways the Postal Service must make sure ballots are delivered quickly because of the ongoing election and absentee voting deadlines.
One week ahead of Election Day, Judge Emmet Sullivan of the DC District Court told the Postal Service to inform its employees that late delivery trips are allowed and the delivery of ballots by state elections deadlines is important.
The order is some of the most aggressive oversight USPS has faced yet in its handling of election mail. It adds to several directives the Post Office has weathered in court in recent months, after state governments won injunctions that would prevent policy changes put in place by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy that could have disrupted the quick delivery of mailed ballots to election officials.
Sullivan's order largely follows a proposed plan agreed upon by the USPS and by those suing the Postal Service, which includes the NAACP and the group Vote Forward.
States and other groups had sought for courts to monitor and enforce the injunctions they won, which Sullivan agreed to do in the USPS cases he oversees.
The Postal Service also must provide daily updates to the court on mail delivery data and will appear daily before the judge. The Postal Service declined to comment on the order other than to say that delivering ballots remains its top priority.
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/us-elec...
Edit:
Judge Sullivan’s order requires USPS, among other things, to disseminate a memo immediately rescinding the Trump admin’s July restrictions on overtime and to hand out lists of state-specific ballot receipt deadlines by Thursday morning
Of the 29 states that require mail-in ballots to arrive on or before Election Day, 28 have since late July seen periods of average USPS delivery times exceeding six days.
among them are battleground states like Florida, Arizona, Wisconsin and Georgia.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-delayed-is-your-m...
USPS leadership have received a sweeping set of orders from a federal judge, laying out ways the Postal Service must make sure ballots are delivered quickly because of the ongoing election and absentee voting deadlines.
One week ahead of Election Day, Judge Emmet Sullivan of the DC District Court told the Postal Service to inform its employees that late delivery trips are allowed and the delivery of ballots by state elections deadlines is important.
The order is some of the most aggressive oversight USPS has faced yet in its handling of election mail. It adds to several directives the Post Office has weathered in court in recent months, after state governments won injunctions that would prevent policy changes put in place by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy that could have disrupted the quick delivery of mailed ballots to election officials.
Sullivan's order largely follows a proposed plan agreed upon by the USPS and by those suing the Postal Service, which includes the NAACP and the group Vote Forward.
States and other groups had sought for courts to monitor and enforce the injunctions they won, which Sullivan agreed to do in the USPS cases he oversees.
The Postal Service also must provide daily updates to the court on mail delivery data and will appear daily before the judge. The Postal Service declined to comment on the order other than to say that delivering ballots remains its top priority.
https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/us-elec...
Edit:
Judge Sullivan’s order requires USPS, among other things, to disseminate a memo immediately rescinding the Trump admin’s July restrictions on overtime and to hand out lists of state-specific ballot receipt deadlines by Thursday morning
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 28th October 06:10
Voting obstruction law suits...
A federal judge in South Carolina has ruled that the state can't reject absentee ballots because of a signature mismatch, and ordered officials to reprocess all ballots previously thrown out because of signature-related issues.
A federal judge has ordered South Carolina counties to stop rejecting absentee ballots on the basis of voter signatures appearing not to match signatures on file and ordered a review of any ballots thrown out so far for that reason.
In an order issued Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Richard Gergel said any county election boards that wish to employ signature matching techniques going forward must first seek and receive permission from the court and provide voters an opportunity to correct any perceived signature mismatch issues before discounting their votes.
The ruling applies only to voter signature mismatches — when election officials determine a voter’s signature on an absentee ballot does not resemble the signature on file. Voters who return absentee ballots without their own signature or without a witness signature (unless they were received by Oct. 7) will still, as of this moment, have their votes discounted and not be afforded an opportunity to correct the deficiency.
The court order comes a day after the South Carolina Election Commission directed all counties to immediately stop using signature matching procedures for absentee ballots after learning that at least 10 counties had been employing or planning to employ the practice to reject otherwise legitimate ballots.
The counties that reported using signature matching this election cycle were Allendale, Anderson, Clarendon, Georgetown, Greenville, Greenwood, Laurens, Marlboro, Orangeburg and Spartanburg.
https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/...
A federal judge in South Carolina has ruled that the state can't reject absentee ballots because of a signature mismatch, and ordered officials to reprocess all ballots previously thrown out because of signature-related issues.
A federal judge has ordered South Carolina counties to stop rejecting absentee ballots on the basis of voter signatures appearing not to match signatures on file and ordered a review of any ballots thrown out so far for that reason.
In an order issued Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Richard Gergel said any county election boards that wish to employ signature matching techniques going forward must first seek and receive permission from the court and provide voters an opportunity to correct any perceived signature mismatch issues before discounting their votes.
The ruling applies only to voter signature mismatches — when election officials determine a voter’s signature on an absentee ballot does not resemble the signature on file. Voters who return absentee ballots without their own signature or without a witness signature (unless they were received by Oct. 7) will still, as of this moment, have their votes discounted and not be afforded an opportunity to correct the deficiency.
The court order comes a day after the South Carolina Election Commission directed all counties to immediately stop using signature matching procedures for absentee ballots after learning that at least 10 counties had been employing or planning to employ the practice to reject otherwise legitimate ballots.
The counties that reported using signature matching this election cycle were Allendale, Anderson, Clarendon, Georgetown, Greenville, Greenwood, Laurens, Marlboro, Orangeburg and Spartanburg.
https://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/...
Another NY Times trump tax report
Trump's federal income tax records show for the first time that, since 2010, Deutsche Bank and other lenders have forgiven about $287 million in debt that Trump failed to repay.
That old question of what happens if a sitting president can't pay is bills...
When his Chicago skyscraper proved a disappointment, Donald Trump defaulted on his loans, sued his bank, got much of the debt forgiven — and largely avoided paying taxes on it.
For Trump's Chicago skyscraper project, Trump assured Deutsche Bank officials, including Justin Kennedy, the son of the now-retired Supreme Court justice Anthony Kennedy, that the Chicago development was a guaranteed moneymaker. (Remember the judge who 'suddenly retired' so that Kavanaugh could be appointed)
Those forgiven debts are now part of a broader investigation of Mr. Trump's business by the New York attorney general.
The president’s federal income tax records, obtained by The New York Times, show for the first time that, since 2010, his lenders have forgiven about $287 million in debt that he failed to repay. The vast majority was related to the Chicago project.
How Mr. Trump found trouble in Chicago, and maneuvered his way out of it, is a case study in doing business the Trump way.
When the project encountered problems, he tried to walk away from his huge debts. For most individuals or businesses, that would have been a recipe for ruin. But tax-return data, other records and interviews show that rather than warring with a notoriously litigious and headline-seeking client, lenders cut Mr. Trump slack — exactly what he seemed to have been counting on.
Big banks and hedge funds gave him years of extra time to repay his debts. Even after Mr. Trump sued his largest lender, accusing it of preying on him, the bank agreed to lend him another $99 million — more than twice as much as was previously known — so that he could pay back what he still owed the bank on the defaulted Chicago loan, records show.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/business/trump-...
Everything trump touches dies. His businesses, peoples careers, the US
Edit: Deutsche Bank still wasn't done with Trump in Chicago. In 2014, it lent him another $24M for failing Chicago
That loan was repaid by May 2016. Oddly, Deutsche didn’t release the collateral on the loan until... Nov. 9, 2016.
The day after Trump won the election.
So in summary:
Deutsche Bank spent years facilitating the laundering of billions of dollars of Russian money for which they were heavily fined.
Deutsche Bank also spent years making loan after loan to Donald Trump, even though he never repaid those loans. It’ rather looks like these “loans” were russian funds laundered to Trump. Especially as they were written off.
When Donald Trump was once again going bankrupt in 2008, Deutsche Bank made a point of bailing out his failing Chicago property. The Deutsche Bank employee who led the charge: Justin Kennedy, son of Anthony Kennedy, who abruptly retired in late 2018 so that Trump could put Brett Kavanaugh in his place.
Then in 2012, Deutsche Bank loaned trump $99 million so he could pay off what he still owed to another division of Deutsche Bank. So straight up thats tax fraud by failing to report the forgiven loans as income, just scratching the surface...
Trump's federal income tax records show for the first time that, since 2010, Deutsche Bank and other lenders have forgiven about $287 million in debt that Trump failed to repay.
That old question of what happens if a sitting president can't pay is bills...
When his Chicago skyscraper proved a disappointment, Donald Trump defaulted on his loans, sued his bank, got much of the debt forgiven — and largely avoided paying taxes on it.
For Trump's Chicago skyscraper project, Trump assured Deutsche Bank officials, including Justin Kennedy, the son of the now-retired Supreme Court justice Anthony Kennedy, that the Chicago development was a guaranteed moneymaker. (Remember the judge who 'suddenly retired' so that Kavanaugh could be appointed)
Those forgiven debts are now part of a broader investigation of Mr. Trump's business by the New York attorney general.
The president’s federal income tax records, obtained by The New York Times, show for the first time that, since 2010, his lenders have forgiven about $287 million in debt that he failed to repay. The vast majority was related to the Chicago project.
How Mr. Trump found trouble in Chicago, and maneuvered his way out of it, is a case study in doing business the Trump way.
When the project encountered problems, he tried to walk away from his huge debts. For most individuals or businesses, that would have been a recipe for ruin. But tax-return data, other records and interviews show that rather than warring with a notoriously litigious and headline-seeking client, lenders cut Mr. Trump slack — exactly what he seemed to have been counting on.
Big banks and hedge funds gave him years of extra time to repay his debts. Even after Mr. Trump sued his largest lender, accusing it of preying on him, the bank agreed to lend him another $99 million — more than twice as much as was previously known — so that he could pay back what he still owed the bank on the defaulted Chicago loan, records show.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/business/trump-...
Everything trump touches dies. His businesses, peoples careers, the US
Edit: Deutsche Bank still wasn't done with Trump in Chicago. In 2014, it lent him another $24M for failing Chicago
That loan was repaid by May 2016. Oddly, Deutsche didn’t release the collateral on the loan until... Nov. 9, 2016.
The day after Trump won the election.
So in summary:
Deutsche Bank spent years facilitating the laundering of billions of dollars of Russian money for which they were heavily fined.
Deutsche Bank also spent years making loan after loan to Donald Trump, even though he never repaid those loans. It’ rather looks like these “loans” were russian funds laundered to Trump. Especially as they were written off.
When Donald Trump was once again going bankrupt in 2008, Deutsche Bank made a point of bailing out his failing Chicago property. The Deutsche Bank employee who led the charge: Justin Kennedy, son of Anthony Kennedy, who abruptly retired in late 2018 so that Trump could put Brett Kavanaugh in his place.
Then in 2012, Deutsche Bank loaned trump $99 million so he could pay off what he still owed to another division of Deutsche Bank. So straight up thats tax fraud by failing to report the forgiven loans as income, just scratching the surface...
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 28th October 07:19
Twenty former U.S. attorneys — all of them Republicans — on Tuesday publicly called President Trump “a threat to the rule of law in our country,” and urged that he be replaced in November with his Democratic opponent, former vice president Joe Biden.
“The President has clearly conveyed that he expects his Justice Department appointees and prosecutors to serve his personal and political interests,” said the former prosecutors in an open letter. They accused Trump of taking “action against those who have stood up for the interests of justice.”
The letter, signed by prosecutors appointed by every GOP president from Eisenhower to Trump, is the latest instance of Republicans backing Biden. In August, dozens of GOP national security experts signed a full-page newspaper ad endorsing Biden over Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican...
“The President has clearly conveyed that he expects his Justice Department appointees and prosecutors to serve his personal and political interests,” said the former prosecutors in an open letter. They accused Trump of taking “action against those who have stood up for the interests of justice.”
The letter, signed by prosecutors appointed by every GOP president from Eisenhower to Trump, is the latest instance of Republicans backing Biden. In August, dozens of GOP national security experts signed a full-page newspaper ad endorsing Biden over Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/republican...
This sounds like a decent metaphor for trumps attitude to people, people were stranded after his rally in Nebraska
Jeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
President Trump took off in Air Force One 1 hr 20 minutes ago, but thousands of his supporters remain stranded on a dark road outside the rally. “We need at least 30 more buses,” an Omaha police officer just said, shaking his head at the chaotic cluster that is unfolding.
3:21 AM · Oct 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Edit:
the Trump campaign bused thousands of people from the airport to the rally, but didn’t make any arrangement to have them bused back. As a result some of them have been standing out in the freezing weather or trying to make the nearly four mile trek back to the airport in the dark. At last count thirty of them were in bad enough shape to need some form of medical attention, and seven of them have been taken to the hospital.
https://twitter.com/omaha_scanner/status/132130950...
https://iowastartingline.com/2020/10/28/trump-supp...
trump again last night in Omaha talked about "rounding that beautiful curve" on Covid, Nebraska has seen its fourth-straight week of record cases and Iowa has experienced a record high 11 times so far this month.
trump talks often about the aid his administration has given to farmers and the support he expects from them in return. But tonight, I heard a lot of silence when he declared: "Some people say our farmers do better now than they did when they actually had a farm."
https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny
Another superspeader event, remember every place that trump has held a rally has seen a spike in numbers
"You notice the fake news now, right? All they talk about is Covid, Covid, Covid. Covid, Covid, and we've made such progress, it's incredible," Trump claims, as the US sets records for most single-day new cases
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321261640239689728
Notmany masks on the people behind him tonight, packed in...
Oh and asfor Biden and the george comment, how about trump "We will vanquish the vaccine"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321264058784489472
There's so much more here: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/132125675611953...
Jeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
President Trump took off in Air Force One 1 hr 20 minutes ago, but thousands of his supporters remain stranded on a dark road outside the rally. “We need at least 30 more buses,” an Omaha police officer just said, shaking his head at the chaotic cluster that is unfolding.
3:21 AM · Oct 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Edit:
the Trump campaign bused thousands of people from the airport to the rally, but didn’t make any arrangement to have them bused back. As a result some of them have been standing out in the freezing weather or trying to make the nearly four mile trek back to the airport in the dark. At last count thirty of them were in bad enough shape to need some form of medical attention, and seven of them have been taken to the hospital.
https://twitter.com/omaha_scanner/status/132130950...
https://iowastartingline.com/2020/10/28/trump-supp...
trump again last night in Omaha talked about "rounding that beautiful curve" on Covid, Nebraska has seen its fourth-straight week of record cases and Iowa has experienced a record high 11 times so far this month.
trump talks often about the aid his administration has given to farmers and the support he expects from them in return. But tonight, I heard a lot of silence when he declared: "Some people say our farmers do better now than they did when they actually had a farm."
https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny
Another superspeader event, remember every place that trump has held a rally has seen a spike in numbers
"You notice the fake news now, right? All they talk about is Covid, Covid, Covid. Covid, Covid, and we've made such progress, it's incredible," Trump claims, as the US sets records for most single-day new cases
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321261640239689728
Notmany masks on the people behind him tonight, packed in...
Oh and asfor Biden and the george comment, how about trump "We will vanquish the vaccine"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321264058784489472
There's so much more here: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/132125675611953...
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 28th October 07:01
in Fact - major point fo rthe trumpettes - trump saying "We will vanquish the vaccine"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321264058784489472
Come on, does trump have Dementia?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1321264058784489472
Come on, does trump have Dementia?
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