'It Just Fell Off"
Discussion
Red 4 said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Why anyone cares about front number plate offences I will never know.
Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
What if you had your extremely rarerare, £340k, brightly coloured, loud, look at me supercar nicked and the police couldn't identify it when it drove past them because it had no plate ?Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
You wouldn't be so self righteous and full of indignation then, would you ...
Indeed. I'm sure the front number plate would be extremely vital in identifying your rare supercar...
So much b
ks on here.
It's not one of six for starters.
And as others have said, if it was a Ford we wouldn't be made aware of it.
It's an easy nick and something to boast about in the canteen.
2 of my cars haven't got front plates on. Neither did the third until recently.
Got a tug for it but the coppers knew me and asked me to put one on instead of fining me.
Got the smallest possible legal stick on plate and will do the same on the others of it comes to it.
ks on here.It's not one of six for starters.
And as others have said, if it was a Ford we wouldn't be made aware of it.
It's an easy nick and something to boast about in the canteen.
2 of my cars haven't got front plates on. Neither did the third until recently.
Got a tug for it but the coppers knew me and asked me to put one on instead of fining me.
Got the smallest possible legal stick on plate and will do the same on the others of it comes to it.
Lord Marylebone said:
Red 4 said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Why anyone cares about front number plate offences I will never know.
Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
What if you had your extremely rarerare, £340k, brightly coloured, loud, look at me supercar nicked and the police couldn't identify it when it drove past them because it had no plate ?Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
You wouldn't be so self righteous and full of indignation then, would you ...
Indeed. I'm sure the front number plate would be extremely vital in identifying your rare supercar...
Ferrari, McLaren, Lamborghini, they all just melt into a sea of blandness. Now, if you had your 1972 Morris Marina nicked, that would be an easy spot.
Red 4 said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Why anyone cares about front number plate offences I will never know.
Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
What if you had your extremely rarerare, £340k, brightly coloured, loud, look at me supercar nicked and the police couldn't identify it when it drove past them because it had no plate ?Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
You wouldn't be so self righteous and full of indignation then, would you ...
If everyone did the same and didn't care about number plates we could just all drive like arses, ignoring all the 30mph's in built up areas, crash into other peoples cars with impunity, make off without paying for fuel, shopping etc.
Or we could behave with civility knowing that acts like these might be recorded somewhere and are traceable to your doorstep.
Lord Marylebone said:
Why anyone cares about front number plate offences I will never know.
Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
Or maybe another motorist or pedestrian or other property owner if it happens to be involved in any incident.Put a front plate on your car or don't, I really do not care.
Unlike many other motoring offences, it affects no one other than the Police, speed camera operators and possibly local councils.
It may be the only way to identify the car at the time.
The Wookie said:
And you've proven my point exactly, they probably wouldn't have bothered putting it on twitter if it was a stty old Golf or A3.
Omitting the front plate isn't exactly exclusive to owners of expensive cars, and by the fact that it's only a £100 fine it's clearly considered a minor offence which they've correctly dealt with, so why the fk should we care?
As far as I am concerned all owners of all cars failing to display number plate correctly should be fined.tty old Golf or A3.Omitting the front plate isn't exactly exclusive to owners of expensive cars, and by the fact that it's only a £100 fine it's clearly considered a minor offence which they've correctly dealt with, so why the f
k should we care?It is a means of an identity (not the only one, and able to be copied I know), and is a legal obligation.
Would not pass an MOT without it displayed, correctly, to the correct spec, and therefore driving without it becomes an offence. The next logical step is to pick and choose what laws to follow, and what not to. Simply, apply them to all.
Fastchas said:
Or...
If everyone did the same and didn't care about number plates we could just all drive like arses, ignoring all the 30mph's in built up areas, crash into other peoples cars with impunity, make off without paying for fuel, shopping etc.
Or we could behave with civility knowing that acts like these might be recorded somewhere and are traceable to your doorstep.
Yes but the vast majority of otherwise law abiding people don't actually do it because they know it's illegal and the police hand out fines for it. None of this is news to anyone so the question is why do we need an announcement about the police doing the most basic, trivial level of their job?If everyone did the same and didn't care about number plates we could just all drive like arses, ignoring all the 30mph's in built up areas, crash into other peoples cars with impunity, make off without paying for fuel, shopping etc.
Or we could behave with civility knowing that acts like these might be recorded somewhere and are traceable to your doorstep.
It's like my company putting out a press release that I've filled out my expenses forms correctly and on time (although to be fair the finance department might say that's worthy of an announcement)
The answer is obviously that it's playing to prejudice (or envy
) and st stirring for attention but I don't understand why a Police force PR department would actually need to do this. Put up a post about a serial drink driver getting a sentence or a video of someone that's been prosecuted for actually driving dangerously with details of the conviction. Those are the sort of things that they will obviously also be doing good work with, that people care about and which actually make a difference
rustednut said:
As far as I am concerned all owners of all cars failing to display number plate correctly should be fined.
It is a means of an identity (not the only one, and able to be copied I know), and is a legal obligation.
Would not pass an MOT without it displayed, correctly, to the correct spec, and therefore driving without it becomes an offence. The next logical step is to pick and choose what laws to follow, and what not to. Simply, apply them to all.
Frankly unless you're going to be handing out life sentences for parking offences then there will always be a scale of how illegal something is.It is a means of an identity (not the only one, and able to be copied I know), and is a legal obligation.
Would not pass an MOT without it displayed, correctly, to the correct spec, and therefore driving without it becomes an offence. The next logical step is to pick and choose what laws to follow, and what not to. Simply, apply them to all.
They've done their job, they've handed out the fine which is appropriate to the offence (i.e. minor), it's plainly obvious to anyone with a driving license that it's illegal to drive without a front plate so ask yourself, why is this event worthy of a press release?
The Wookie said:
rustednut said:
As far as I am concerned all owners of all cars failing to display number plate correctly should be fined.
It is a means of an identity (not the only one, and able to be copied I know), and is a legal obligation.
Would not pass an MOT without it displayed, correctly, to the correct spec, and therefore driving without it becomes an offence. The next logical step is to pick and choose what laws to follow, and what not to. Simply, apply them to all.
Frankly unless you're going to be handing out life sentences for parking offences then there will always be a scale of how illegal something is.It is a means of an identity (not the only one, and able to be copied I know), and is a legal obligation.
Would not pass an MOT without it displayed, correctly, to the correct spec, and therefore driving without it becomes an offence. The next logical step is to pick and choose what laws to follow, and what not to. Simply, apply them to all.
They've done their job, they've handed out the fine which is appropriate to the offence (i.e. minor), it's plainly obvious to anyone with a driving license that it's illegal to drive without a front plate so ask yourself, why is this event worthy of a press release?
Reminds people who do this that sometimes they get caught and fined
Placates people who are annoyed by people who do this with a reminder that sometimes they get caught and fined.
The Wookie said:
Frankly unless you're going to be handing out life sentences for parking offences then there will always be a scale of how illegal something is.
They've done their job, they've handed out the fine which is appropriate to the offence (i.e. minor), it's plainly obvious to anyone with a driving license that it's illegal to drive without a front plate so ask yourself, why is this event worthy of a press release?
I don't care about the press release.They've done their job, they've handed out the fine which is appropriate to the offence (i.e. minor), it's plainly obvious to anyone with a driving license that it's illegal to drive without a front plate so ask yourself, why is this event worthy of a press release?
I do care about the laws being upheld.
I don't care who gets fined for blatantly not displaying the number plate correctly (supercar owner or beaten up old wreck owner).
I do care when some people think they are above the law especially if the fine is so trivial it doesn't alter their ways.
It's in a press release because an unusual, expensive, 'look at me' car is great for generating attention.
That's how PR works, even a five year old can understand that.
Maybe also something to do with certain cars being proportionately more likely to be deliberately missing their front plate, and also more likely to be noticed when driving.
That's how PR works, even a five year old can understand that.
Maybe also something to do with certain cars being proportionately more likely to be deliberately missing their front plate, and also more likely to be noticed when driving.
SpeckledJim said:
I think the press release serves two purposes.
Reminds people who do this that sometimes they get caught and fined
Placates people who are annoyed by people who do this with a reminder that sometimes they get caught and fined.
Fair enough the former is a valid point and it does achieve that, but we didn't need reminding before the advent of social media, there isn't an epidemic of people driving around without front plates.Reminds people who do this that sometimes they get caught and fined
Placates people who are annoyed by people who do this with a reminder that sometimes they get caught and fined.
To me it just looks like 'hur hur, flash git with his Lambo thinks he's above the law for a minor traffic offence but we showed him with a fine that cost him less than a tank of fuel'. I think it actually harms the image of police, I think it makes them look petty and perhaps even position them in peoples minds as a means for exacting petty social vengeance rather than actually stopping negative behaviour that affect peoples lives.
Perhaps I'm thinking about it too much though.
Edited by The Wookie on Tuesday 27th October 12:44
rustednut said:
I don't care about the press release.
I do care about the laws being upheld.
I don't care who gets fined for blatantly not displaying the number plate correctly (supercar owner or beaten up old wreck owner).
I do care when some people think they are above the law especially if the fine is so trivial it doesn't alter their ways.
Congratulations, you've hit the rule pedant stereotype I mentioned originally then.I do care about the laws being upheld.
I don't care who gets fined for blatantly not displaying the number plate correctly (supercar owner or beaten up old wreck owner).
I do care when some people think they are above the law especially if the fine is so trivial it doesn't alter their ways.
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