46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
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southendpier said:
we're constantly told the Dems aren't left wing, so Brand is being consistent.
Well, I think we can all agree that the Dems are left of the Reps. And I hope we can all agree (except for the hard of thinking) that the Dems are not "radical left", "socialists" "communists" or most of the other pejorative terms used? Al Gorithum said:
jimmyjimjim said:
HM-2 said:
Roderick Spode said:
Perhaps almost as amusing is that you call the guy a Nazi for
I mean he clearly caveated by saying "so to speak" so he wasn't being literal, but Brand has drunk a great deal of the alt-right Koolade. He's also an absolute charlatan. g3org3y said:
HM-2 said:
g3org3y said:
Russell Brand is 'Right Wing'? Ok.
Obsessed with woke, overtly perpetuating right wing conspiracy theories, renting about technocracy and globalism?Think it's a fair assessment.
He's an interesting character, Russell Brand. I had suspected he was probably bipolar and a quick Google appears to confirm that. He strikes me as intelligent but really struggling to keep himself under any kind of control. I remember an interview he did with Jeremy Paxman years ago where I found myself really warming to him, but the video posted above, I found myself unable to deal with for more than a few seconds. I suspect there is someone in there with some interesting stuff to say if he could just calm it all down a bit.
HM-2 said:
g3org3y said:
HM-2 said:
g3org3y said:
Russell Brand is 'Right Wing'? Ok.
Obsessed with woke, overtly perpetuating right wing conspiracy theories, renting about technocracy and globalism?Think it's a fair assessment.
Sounds like a bit of hippy to me.
Yes, he tends to the conspiratorial side of things but he is willing to bring up the subjects that other are afraid to (eg mandatory covid vaccines, Canada Trucker protest etc) which makes him open to accusations of 'alt-right', but IMO, that doesn't make him 'Right Wing'.
Edited by g3org3y on Wednesday 29th June 16:57
HM-2 said:
Crackie said:
You may think that is accurate, and that is fine............many will not
They're entitled to their view on the subject, but they're wrong. Crackie said:
suggests that oppressor / oppressed hierarchical structures are oppressive by nature
Oppressor/oppressed hierarchies are, by definition, oppressive. How can an oppressor not be oppressive? This is utter nonsense. Edited by HM-2 on Wednesday 29th June 12:42
I made it clear, in both of those previous posts, about the narrative of hierarchical structures being framed by some simply as oppressor / oppressed. It is a simplistic view of hierarchical structures which, to use your term, is utter nonsense.
Societies have always had to endure those who look for scapegoats and someone else to blame............in recent years critical theorists and postmodernists have actively encouraged a victim/ grievance culture.
It's desperately negative. ...........but thought by some to equate to progress.
Oh I didn't realise that Brand is Bi-Polar. A friend/colleague has this condition, and I confirm that it's very difficult to live with and be around.
I thought his behaviours were a result of addictions because they seem fairly classic to me, and his addictions are documented.
Either way, the guy is a nob IMO and has nothing sensible to say.
I thought his behaviours were a result of addictions because they seem fairly classic to me, and his addictions are documented.
Either way, the guy is a nob IMO and has nothing sensible to say.
g3org3y said:
HM-2 said:
He's also taken to spouting pro Russian propaganda over Ukraine, which of course is very normal and sensible and fine.
Link?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JCr7zkPAm1Y
Russell Brand pushing the "NATO instigated the Revolution of Dignity and caused the Ukraine War" conspiracy theory.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CxMVcrvtqqs
There's about half a dozen others...basically, pick a Russell Brand video on the Russia-Ukraine conflict and there's an extremely high likelihood that it'll be perpetuating a pro-Russian conspiracy theory.
HM-2 said:
T6 vanman said:
Maybe if you could be so kind to find the story I posted written by the lady who told her harrowing story of abuse during her migration to the US
Maybe you could point to the Biden policies that you believe caused the tragic event in Texas?Opinions and hearsay are not the same as facts.
I would also like to remind that there is another thread where Brand is slagged off as a hearsayer/propagandist by people posting hearsay/propaganda.
Catatafish said:
To be fair, you have to prove that Biden's policies did not cause this event in order to justify keeping on about it.
"To be fair", I don't. I'm not making any claim, so there's no burden of proof associated with my comments. Pointing out that there's a complete absence of evidence presented by people who claim his administration are responsible for events, despite being provided multiple opportunities to support these views with evidence, doesn't require me to present evidence that his administration wasn't responsible.
This is really basic stuff and I'm slightly perplexed as to why you seem unable to grasp the difference.
Catatafish said:
I would also like to remind that there is another thread where Brand is slagged off as a hearsayer/propagandist by people posting hearsay/propaganda.
Feeble. Brand is "slagged off" because he perpetuates clear falsehoods purely because they align with the ideological positions he happens to favour right now. Truth be told I don't think Brand is actually ideologically right wing, just seems to have found a happy little niche pushing reactionary and conspiratorial nonsense that happily aligns with the views of certain parts of the right on identity politics (ironic), Covid, the war in Ukraine, """wokeness""" and the general political environment.
HM-2 said:
g3org3y said:
HM-2 said:
He's also taken to spouting pro Russian propaganda over Ukraine, which of course is very normal and sensible and fine.
Link?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JCr7zkPAm1Y
Russell Brand pushing the "NATO instigated the Revolution of Dignity and caused the Ukraine War" conspiracy theory.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CxMVcrvtqqs
There's about half a dozen others...basically, pick a Russell Brand video on the Russia-Ukraine conflict and there's an extremely high likelihood that it'll be perpetuating a pro-Russian conspiracy theory.
I notice YouTube haven't removed or censored his videos as misinformation. Video titles are clickbaity as fk though to be fair.
Still doesn't make him 'Right Wing' though. Contrarian quite possibly.
HM-2 said:
Truth be told I don't think Brand is actually ideologically right wing, just seems to have found a happy little niche pushing reactionary and conspiratorial nonsense that happily aligns with the views of certain parts of the right on identity politics (ironic), Covid, the war in Ukraine, """wokeness""" and the general political environment.
So he's not Right Wing then? Got it thanks. Anyway, back to BIden...
Russel Brand isn’t right or left wing. He’s highly susceptible to any old conspiracy or band wagon. The political leaning of that is irrelevant. He just happens to have jumped on an alt-right libertarian band wagon at the moment.
Al Gorithum said:
Oh I didn't realise that Brand is Bi-Polar. A friend/colleague has this condition, and I confirm that it's very difficult to live with and be around.
I thought his behaviours were a result of addictions because they seem fairly classic to me, and his addictions are documented.
Either way, the guy is a nob IMO and has nothing sensible to say.
Addiction is prevalent among people with unmanaged or poorly managed bi-polar. Both poor impulse control during phases of mania and self medication make addiction a very high risk.I thought his behaviours were a result of addictions because they seem fairly classic to me, and his addictions are documented.
Either way, the guy is a nob IMO and has nothing sensible to say.
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