46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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paulguitar

23,104 posts

112 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Noodle1982 said:
Not even 2 months into his presidency and Biden is breaking records.....

43 days in office, and counting, and not a single press conference.
That's your observation of this presidency up to this point.

Seriously confused

Byker28i

58,831 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
McConnell's wife- Again Byker, what has this got to do with Biden?

Has Biden commented on it? Was he involved?

It's partisan mudslinging and irrelevant to the thread.
Again, it's not, it's completely relevant provided you're not blinkered (or full of your own self importance).

There's bills being prepared to combat ethics abuses so prevalent under trump. HR1 just passed the house because of voting obstruction by the GOP, and to tighten up on ethics violations, opposed by all the GOP.

edit: Perhaps before you show your further ignorance you might like to read the bill
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house...

Or the comments of it's sponsor John Sarbanes
https://sarbanes.house.gov/issues/hr-1-the-for-the...

"The 2020 election underscored the need for comprehensive, structural democracy reform. Americans across the country were forced to overcome rampant voter suppression, gerrymandering and a torrent of special-interest dark money just to exercise their vote and their voice in our democracy.

It shouldn’t have to be this way.

That’s why House Democrats are committed to advancing H.R. 1, the For the People Act – a transformational anti-corruption and clean elections reform package – in the 117th Congress.

We will clean up corruption in Washington, empower the American people and restore faith and integrity to our government. H.R. 1 will get us there"

Part of HR1
ENSURE PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST

Fortify Ethics Law – H.R. 1 breaks the influence economy in Washington and increases accountability by expanding conflict of interest law and divestment requirements, slowing the revolving door, preventing Members of Congress from serving on corporate boards and requiring presidents to disclose their tax returns.

Impose Greater Ethics Enforcement – H.R. 1 gives teeth to federal ethics oversight by overhauling the Office of Government Ethics, closing loopholes for lobbyists and foreign agents, ensuring watchdogs have sufficient resources to enforce the law and creating a code of ethics for the Supreme Court.



Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th March 09:57

Byker28i

58,831 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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paulguitar said:
Noodle1982 said:
Not even 2 months into his presidency and Biden is breaking records.....

43 days in office, and counting, and not a single press conference.
That's your observation of this presidency up to this point.

Seriously confused
It's what Fox was pushing last night...

Byker28i

58,831 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Norah O'Donnell
@NorahODonnell

Tonight, two former aides to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo are rejecting his apology after accusing him of inappropriate conduct.
Gov. Cuomo says he now understands that his actions may have made people uncomfortable, but he intends to keep his job.

video of the shows footage on it: https://twitter.com/i/status/1367259624454434817

Interesting to see the media start on Cuomo, I doubt he will survive long term


Edit: and the thing is, it doesn't matter what party he represents. If these allegations are true he needs to go. It's not acceptable for people in powerful positions to abuse that power.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th March 10:19

Byker28i

58,831 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Pres. Biden and health officials say the timing of Texas Gov. Abbott’s decision to lift COVID-19 restrictions couldn’t be worse.
Texas is now reporting about 7,000 new cases a day. That number was 5,000 a day when a lockdown was reordered last summer.

Some coverage here, with also other states without a mask mandata
https://twitter.com/i/status/1367269340127633411

Byker28i

58,831 posts

216 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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I think the other thing with Chao is that Merrick Garland was nominated for Attorney General 6 weeks ago and it's still being stalled by the GOP for no reasons, unless...
It could be suggested that major DOJ prosecutions won't happen until there's a new AG, then yesterday we learn that McConnells wife is under investigation. These leaks always have a reason, in this case, to put pressure on McConnell to pass Garland?

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Byker28i said:
paulguitar said:
Noodle1982 said:
Not even 2 months into his presidency and Biden is breaking records.....

43 days in office, and counting, and not a single press conference.
That's your observation of this presidency up to this point.

Seriously confused
It's what Fox was pushing last night...
CNN actually.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/03/media/biden-press-c...

paulguitar

23,104 posts

112 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Noodle1982 said:
Have you watched the video on your own link there?

Noodle1982

2,103 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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paulguitar said:
Noodle1982 said:
Have you watched the video on your own link there?
Have you read the article I linked there?


paulguitar

23,104 posts

112 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Noodle1982 said:
paulguitar said:
Noodle1982 said:
Have you watched the video on your own link there?
Have you read the article I linked there?
Yep.



Noodle1982

2,103 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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paulguitar said:
Noodle1982 said:
paulguitar said:
Noodle1982 said:
Have you watched the video on your own link there?
Have you read the article I linked there?
Yep.
Good boy.

I like to try and educate at least one person each day.



paulguitar

23,104 posts

112 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Noodle1982 said:
I like to try and educate at least one person each day.
I think you might be better advised to educate yourself a bit before getting more ambitious!

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Byker28i said:
Again, it's not, it's completely relevant provided you're not blinkered (or full of your own self importance).
It's not relevent at all. Your purpose is to try and shoehorn a dig at the Republicans and use mental gymnastics attaching it to a thread about Biden. It's spamming.

Trump certainly provides lots of material for people to talk about, but making this thread just another copy of the Trump one, especially when it is still active, seems illogical. If you have GOP nasties you want to cut and paste, they're certainly more relevant there than they are here.

You're obviously well hooked up to US news sources, it would be good to discuss Biden on here with people like you without it getting cluttered with other stuff.

HM-2

12,467 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
You're obviously well hooked up to US news sources, it would be good to discuss Biden on here with people like you without it getting cluttered with other stuff.
Please don't pretend you have any actual interest in discussing anything. Almost every response penned by myself and a number of other posters in this thread to your posts has been completely ignored.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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HM-2 said:
Please don't pretend you have any actual interest in discussing anything. Almost every response penned by myself and a number of other posters in this thread to your posts has been completely ignored.
Probably because the last time I had repetitious replies from your 'group' and responded in kind, I was barred from the thread without explanation.

If I and others appear over sensitive about certain things, it's because we are criticised and even removed from threads for doing the very things others are doing without sanction. I have tried repeatedly to talk about Biden on this thread and for my troubles get accused of trolling or otherwise trying to cause trouble. This is ironic when others are allowed and even encouraged to spam the thread.

Maybe if we all back off from the constant accusations of bad faith and discuss the actual thread topic, we can all agree there might be differences of opinion on the subject matter, but this is natural and absolutely nothing to do with that fker Trump or QAnon or anything else quite so insane.

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

39 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Probably because the last time I had repetitious replies from your 'group' and responded in kind, I was barred from the thread without explanation.

If I and others appear over sensitive about certain things, it's because we are criticised and even removed from threads for doing the very things others are doing without sanction. I have tried repeatedly to talk about Biden on this thread and for my troubles get accused of trolling or otherwise trying to cause trouble. This is ironic when others are allowed and even encouraged to spam the thread.

Maybe if we all back off from the constant accusations of bad faith and discuss the actual thread topic, we can all agree there might be differences of opinion on the subject matter, but this is natural and absolutely nothing to do with that fker Trump or QAnon or anything else quite so insane.
The problem is you and your group are expecting others to be outraged about stuff that really doesn't matter. Nothing out of the ordinary has happened.
So you have all turned to calling the others hypocrites as they aren't attacking Biden in the same way as they attack Trump. I doubt it's ever going to happen, as Biden is not and never will be anything like Trump.


HM-2

12,467 posts

168 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Probably because the last time I had repetitious replies from your 'group' and responded in kind, I was barred from the thread without explanation.
With all due respect, that's not really my problem.

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
I have tried repeatedly to talk about Biden on this thread
You've actually spent most of your time engaging in exercises of false equivalence and asserting anyone who points this out of being a hypocrite for "not holding Biden to the same standards as Trump", even when the actual events in question are utterly incomparable. I wouldn't call this "trying to talk about Biden".

RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Maybe if we all back off from the constant accusations of bad faith and discuss the actual thread topic
If you don't want to be accused of bad faith then abide by the basic principles of good debate.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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For the record, I don't have a 'group'.

It's much healthier if we write off the 'them and us' that characterised the Trump thread. It would be more inkeeping with the changes at the top in the US. It would possibly tone down the rhetoric on both sides.

(In case I'm being too subtle, this is an attempt at being conciliatory smile )

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

39 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
For the record, I don't have a 'group'.

It's much healthier if we write off the 'them and us' that characterised the Trump thread. It would be more inkeeping with the changes at the top in the US. It would possibly tone down the rhetoric on both sides.

(In case I'm being too subtle, this is an attempt at being conciliatory smile )
It would be helpful if you didn't try and create groups that don't exist then you have a better chance of escaping categorisation yourself.

gumshoe

824 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Byker28i said:
gumshoe said:
RiseUp said:
hidetheelephants said:
If you look at the death rate chart Florida has shanked it badly; their death rate in the Thanksgiving/Christmas peak is huge, their performance is terrible; NY has held the death rate down. This article is rubbish.
Huge you say? As in never topping 300 a day?

Florida is ranked 27th out of 50 states for deaths per million, how exactly is that a shank? Considering they've had absolutely minimal lock down, I'd say that's a remarkable performance for numbers. They have the 3rd highest population.

I saw a chart earlier showing the deaths per million on states that locked down vs no lock down and guess what... They were within 50 of each other.
Florida has THE biggest concentration of over 65 years olds of all the US states in its population (relevant to deaths per million).

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/FL

California has a smaller percentage of over 65s but more of them. Which isn't relevant to deaths per capita.
See my response yesterday. Floridas governor DeSantis was accused by a whistleblower of halving the figures, then she was sacked, subjected to police raids etc.

They are hardly a state to hold up, at one time the third highest state for cases. Not sure where the 300 comes from, deaths? Last july:

Florida on Sunday reported the highest single-day total of new coronavirus cases by any state since the start of the pandemic, with more than 15,000 new infections, eclipsing the previous high of 12,274 recorded in New York on April 4 amid the worst of its outbreak.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/12/us/florida-coro...

Early on they opened beaches, opened eating out which caused their spike in numbers.


Even now
Florida COVID update for Wednesday: Miami positivity rate doubles in a day to top 10%

6,014 new Florida coronavirus cases reported Wednesday; 132 new deaths
The Florida Department of Health says the number of known cases of COVID-19 in the state rose by 6,014 Wednesday. According to the state's daily update, the total number of cases in Florida is now 1,924,114.

The number of Florida resident deaths has reached 31,267, an increase of 132 since Tuesday's update. In addition, a total of 562 non-Floridians have died in the state.
https://www.fox13news.com/news/6014-new-florida-co...
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/artic...



Remember Florida stopped reporting their numbers
The state is not reporting a total number of "recovered" coronavirus patients. As of Wednesday, the number of Floridians currently hospitalized for a primary diagnosis of COVID-19 was 3,597, with the state reporting a total of 80,024 hospitalized for treatment at some point.


Again, mostly explained in yesterdays post, rural vs cities, For political reasons we had team trump trying to fudge the figures, stop the reporting from CDC, Republican governors doing the same and now reports that Cuomo did the same in NY for some figures.

So as with all stats, we don't know we actually have the fuller picture, but holding Florida up as a positive example really isn't the answer.

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th March 07:43
Florida's population grows annually through migration by around 1.5% of its population.

The annual deaths has been around 17% (or 15% adjusted for net migration/per capita) higher than the previous years. Basically no different or better when compared to states that had strict lockdowns.

Why don't you look at California. They had a 20% increase in deaths in 2020 compared to the year before. And California has net immigation, so per capita that looks even worse.

So why do you tihnk Florida isn't a good example of lockdown vs not lockdown?

What is their stats is worse than other states, per capita?

Cases rarely result in deaths. Deaths are the important figure to concern yourself with.

So explain why you think Florida has performed worse than California?