46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
Discussion
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
HM-2 said:
Please don't pretend you have any actual interest in discussing anything. Almost every response penned by myself and a number of other posters in this thread to your posts has been completely ignored.
Probably because the last time I had repetitious replies from your 'group' and responded in kind, I was barred from the thread without explanation.If I and others appear over sensitive about certain things, it's because we are criticised and even removed from threads for doing the very things others are doing without sanction. I have tried repeatedly to talk about Biden on this thread and for my troubles get accused of trolling or otherwise trying to cause trouble. This is ironic when others are allowed and even encouraged to spam the thread.
Maybe if we all back off from the constant accusations of bad faith and discuss the actual thread topic, we can all agree there might be differences of opinion on the subject matter, but this is natural and absolutely nothing to do with that f
ker Trump or QAnon or anything else quite so insane. Yawn.
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Maybe if we all back off from the constant accusations of bad faith and discuss the actual thread topic,
You first - just yesterdayRonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Otherwise you're just trolling,
This isn't your thread, you aren't a mod. Everything is linked whether you like it or not...gumshoe said:
Florida's population grows annually through migration by around 1.5% of its population.
The annual deaths has been around 17% (or 15% adjusted for net migration/per capita) higher than the previous years. Basically no different or better when compared to states that had strict lockdowns.
Why don't you look at California. They had a 20% increase in deaths in 2020 compared to the year before. And California has net immigation, so per capita that looks even worse.
So why do you tihnk Florida isn't a good example of lockdown vs not lockdown?
What is their stats is worse than other states, per capita?
Cases rarely result in deaths. Deaths are the important figure to concern yourself with.
So explain why you think Florida has performed worse than California?
Some good questions. What the death rate vs infections? The annual deaths has been around 17% (or 15% adjusted for net migration/per capita) higher than the previous years. Basically no different or better when compared to states that had strict lockdowns.
Why don't you look at California. They had a 20% increase in deaths in 2020 compared to the year before. And California has net immigation, so per capita that looks even worse.
So why do you tihnk Florida isn't a good example of lockdown vs not lockdown?
What is their stats is worse than other states, per capita?
Cases rarely result in deaths. Deaths are the important figure to concern yourself with.
So explain why you think Florida has performed worse than California?
The US currently have 531,652 deaths for almost 30m infections. It stands to reason less infections would be less deaths, then each state/area has different population density, demographic (rich/poor) there's a lot of factors to consider, such as mobility, transport hubs, who opened up when and what the population acted like - it's not an easy thing to compare.
And again, we know the stats have been recorded differently in different areas, especially Florida, but it's still running as third worse state with cases on the rise again, 4th worse if you look at deaths, or about half way if you look at cases/deaths per 1m population
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/...
The top states in Florida are Miami, Broward (Fort Lauderdale etc), Palm Beach and Orange county (disney etc) - all holiday destinations that were opened up.
Whats the answer? I don't know, but we know it's transmitted through contact, so it stands to reason to take all the sensible precautions to minimise contact, clean surfaces/hands etc after contact. If thats takes a lockdown because people wont be sensible - well thats exactly where we are in the UK now after the relaxations last summer.
Stats fudged in florida...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/04/fl...
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/12/florid...
https://time.com/5853398/florida-fired-scientist-c...
What is certain is that the US has moved from a leadership with a denial culture and blame everyone else, to one under Biden thats taking it seriously and putting plans into action.
Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th March 12:47
HR1 and those ethics and campaign fund tightening that the GOP voted against
The FEC has asked Jim Jordan's campaign committee to explain large accounting discrepancies between reports it filed several years ago and corrected reports the committee filed earlier this year. Many discrepancies exceeded $100,000. One exceeded $900,000.
The Federal Election Commission on Tuesday asked U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan’s campaign committee to explain large accounting discrepancies between reports it filed several years ago and corrected reports the committee filed earlier this year. Many of the discrepancies exceeded $100,000, and one exceeded $900,000. The campaign says no money was ever missing from its accounts, and blames the inconsistencies on troubles adjusting to skyrocketing donations as Jordan’s national profile grew.
Several March 2 letters from the FEC ask Jordan’s campaign to explain:
https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/03/jim-jordans...
I mean, here we have candidates voting against campaign funding reform, who are being investigated for campaign funds discrepancies...
The FEC has asked Jim Jordan's campaign committee to explain large accounting discrepancies between reports it filed several years ago and corrected reports the committee filed earlier this year. Many discrepancies exceeded $100,000. One exceeded $900,000.
The Federal Election Commission on Tuesday asked U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan’s campaign committee to explain large accounting discrepancies between reports it filed several years ago and corrected reports the committee filed earlier this year. Many of the discrepancies exceeded $100,000, and one exceeded $900,000. The campaign says no money was ever missing from its accounts, and blames the inconsistencies on troubles adjusting to skyrocketing donations as Jordan’s national profile grew.
Several March 2 letters from the FEC ask Jordan’s campaign to explain:
- an increase in disbursements totaling $122,706.60 on its 2018 post-general election report.
- a decrease in disbursements totaling $130,319.97 on a report of the campaign’s income and expenses during the final weeks of 2018.
- a decrease in receipts totaling $111,950.54 on Jordan’s campaign finance report for the first quarter of 2019.
- an increase in disbursements totaling $38,822.23 and a decrease in receipts totaling $164,342.47 on a report of the campaign’s income and expenses in the second quarter of 2019.
- an increase in disbursements totaling $37,784.91 and a decrease in receipts totaling $176,910.06 on a 2019 report that covered campaign expenses between July and September.
- an increase in receipts totaling $144,562.79 on its year end report for 2019.
- a decrease in receipts totaling $56,995.48 and a decrease in disbursements totaling $502,687.65 on a 2020 pre-primary report that covered January 1 through February 26.
- an increase in receipts totaling $67,364.90 and a $16,505.97 decrease in disbursements on a 2020 pre-primary report that covered early April.
- an increase in disbursements totaling $335,502.36 on its 2020 April quarterly report.
- an increase in receipts totaling $558,726.12 on a 2020 quarterly report that covered expenses from April 9 through June 30, and a decrease in disbursements totaling $911,530.36.
https://www.cleveland.com/open/2021/03/jim-jordans...
I mean, here we have candidates voting against campaign funding reform, who are being investigated for campaign funds discrepancies...
Byker28i said:
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Maybe if we all back off from the constant accusations of bad faith and discuss the actual thread topic,
You first - just yesterdayRonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Otherwise you're just trolling,
This isn't your thread, you aren't a mod. Everything is linked whether you like it or not...
Byker28i said:
What is certain is that the US has moved from a leadership with a denial culture and blame everyone else, to one under Biden thats taking it seriously and putting plans into action.
What are these plans? Genuine question as I haven't seen anything that's convinced me that he has the slightest idea of what to do. The last time I came into NP&E was probably 5 years ago, so I'm not a hardened warrior on these pages. To me Biden looks inept, has reneged on his promises and is hiding from the media who have already given him an easy ride thusfar. Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th March 12:47
I'm principally sticking my head back in here as I fear with Biden and Blinken back in the WH, American Foreign Policy is about to go down a familiar path and I'm interested to see what the views are on the guy.
Jonmx said:
Byker28i said:
What is certain is that the US has moved from a leadership with a denial culture and blame everyone else, to one under Biden thats taking it seriously and putting plans into action.
What are these plans? Genuine question as I haven't seen anything that's convinced me that he has the slightest idea of what to do. The last time I came into NP&E was probably 5 years ago, so I'm not a hardened warrior on these pages. To me Biden looks inept, has reneged on his promises and is hiding from the media who have already given him an easy ride thusfar. Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 4th March 12:47
I'm principally sticking my head back in here as I fear with Biden and Blinken back in the WH, American Foreign Policy is about to go down a familiar path and I'm interested to see what the views are on the guy.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021...
Explain what promises he has reneged on?
Is he hiding from the media or following the same path trump took for years? 300+ days for trump
https://theconversation.com/trump-white-house-goes...
Certainly Bidens spokesperson Jen Psaki is keeping the media briefed, Bidens not hiding, just getting on with things. Positions being filled, policies getting delivered etc.
here comes the immigration difficulties for Biden. The changes he's implemented for ICE will take time to go through, another govt organisation there seems to be bad apples in..
President Joe Biden is struggling to head off a potential humanitarian and political crisis on the U.S. southern border, where a spike in migrant crossings -- particularly by unaccompanied children -- threatens to overwhelm government shelters.
White House officials briefed Biden earlier this week on the surge, and the administration has held multiple briefings with House and Senate lawmakers on the situation, according to congressional aides. Homeland Security officials are giving weekly updates to several Capitol Hill offices.
“We’ll be able to handle it, God willing,” Biden said Tuesday. But asked whether the surge constituted a crisis, the president was clear: “No.”
The administration has taken steps to clear shelter space by speeding the release of unaccompanied minors to relatives or sponsors in the U.S., and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said additional measures are on the table.
The administration is confronting the problem without key officials in place at two central agencies: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protections. Biden’s nominee for HHS secretary, Xavier Becerra, still hasn’t won Senate confirmation, though Cindy Huang was recently installed as the new director of ORR.
White House officials have repeatedly said now is not the time to migrate to the U.S. and that migrants are driven north by conditions in Central America, not Biden’s policies. A Homeland Security official said that overall border encounters have been rising since April 2020, eight months before Biden took office. Violence and natural disasters in the Northern Triangle countries -- Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador -- have driven the increase, according to the official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04...
President Joe Biden is struggling to head off a potential humanitarian and political crisis on the U.S. southern border, where a spike in migrant crossings -- particularly by unaccompanied children -- threatens to overwhelm government shelters.
White House officials briefed Biden earlier this week on the surge, and the administration has held multiple briefings with House and Senate lawmakers on the situation, according to congressional aides. Homeland Security officials are giving weekly updates to several Capitol Hill offices.
“We’ll be able to handle it, God willing,” Biden said Tuesday. But asked whether the surge constituted a crisis, the president was clear: “No.”
The administration has taken steps to clear shelter space by speeding the release of unaccompanied minors to relatives or sponsors in the U.S., and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said additional measures are on the table.
The administration is confronting the problem without key officials in place at two central agencies: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protections. Biden’s nominee for HHS secretary, Xavier Becerra, still hasn’t won Senate confirmation, though Cindy Huang was recently installed as the new director of ORR.
White House officials have repeatedly said now is not the time to migrate to the U.S. and that migrants are driven north by conditions in Central America, not Biden’s policies. A Homeland Security official said that overall border encounters have been rising since April 2020, eight months before Biden took office. Violence and natural disasters in the Northern Triangle countries -- Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador -- have driven the increase, according to the official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04...
Jonmx said:
What are these plans? Genuine question as I haven't seen anything that's convinced me that he has the slightest idea of what to do. The last time I came into NP&E was probably 5 years ago, so I'm not a hardened warrior on these pages. To me Biden looks inept, has reneged on his promises and is hiding from the media who have already given him an easy ride thusfar.
I'm principally sticking my head back in here as I fear with Biden and Blinken back in the WH, American Foreign Policy is about to go down a familiar path and I'm interested to see what the views are on the guy.
Regarding the foreign policy - what did Trump fundamentally change other than bring his own peculiar brand of rhetoric?I'm principally sticking my head back in here as I fear with Biden and Blinken back in the WH, American Foreign Policy is about to go down a familiar path and I'm interested to see what the views are on the guy.
Did they bomb less people? Any truly significant troop withdrawals?
I believe they didn't start anything new under his watch which is a positive. (Unless you count killing that Iranian bloke but that was done in Iraq.)
Byker28i said:
here comes the immigration difficulties for Biden. The changes he's implemented for ICE will take time to go through, another govt organisation there seems to be bad apples in..
President Joe Biden is struggling to head off a potential humanitarian and political crisis on the U.S. southern border, where a spike in migrant crossings -- particularly by unaccompanied children -- threatens to overwhelm government shelters.
White House officials briefed Biden earlier this week on the surge, and the administration has held multiple briefings with House and Senate lawmakers on the situation, according to congressional aides. Homeland Security officials are giving weekly updates to several Capitol Hill offices.
“We’ll be able to handle it, God willing,” Biden said Tuesday. But asked whether the surge constituted a crisis, the president was clear: “No.”
The administration has taken steps to clear shelter space by speeding the release of unaccompanied minors to relatives or sponsors in the U.S., and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said additional measures are on the table.
The administration is confronting the problem without key officials in place at two central agencies: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protections. Biden’s nominee for HHS secretary, Xavier Becerra, still hasn’t won Senate confirmation, though Cindy Huang was recently installed as the new director of ORR.
White House officials have repeatedly said now is not the time to migrate to the U.S. and that migrants are driven north by conditions in Central America, not Biden’s policies. A Homeland Security official said that overall border encounters have been rising since April 2020, eight months before Biden took office. Violence and natural disasters in the Northern Triangle countries -- Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador -- have driven the increase, according to the official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04...
Did he not promise a route to citizenship for illegal migrants, President Joe Biden is struggling to head off a potential humanitarian and political crisis on the U.S. southern border, where a spike in migrant crossings -- particularly by unaccompanied children -- threatens to overwhelm government shelters.
White House officials briefed Biden earlier this week on the surge, and the administration has held multiple briefings with House and Senate lawmakers on the situation, according to congressional aides. Homeland Security officials are giving weekly updates to several Capitol Hill offices.
“We’ll be able to handle it, God willing,” Biden said Tuesday. But asked whether the surge constituted a crisis, the president was clear: “No.”
The administration has taken steps to clear shelter space by speeding the release of unaccompanied minors to relatives or sponsors in the U.S., and Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said additional measures are on the table.
The administration is confronting the problem without key officials in place at two central agencies: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protections. Biden’s nominee for HHS secretary, Xavier Becerra, still hasn’t won Senate confirmation, though Cindy Huang was recently installed as the new director of ORR.
White House officials have repeatedly said now is not the time to migrate to the U.S. and that migrants are driven north by conditions in Central America, not Biden’s policies. A Homeland Security official said that overall border encounters have been rising since April 2020, eight months before Biden took office. Violence and natural disasters in the Northern Triangle countries -- Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador -- have driven the increase, according to the official.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-04...
would that not be seen as a reason to go ?
PRTVR said:
Did he not promise a route to citizenship for illegal migrants,
would that not be seen as a reason to go ?
According to that article, numbers have been swelling since the middle of last year due to external factors, crime, violence, hardship. would that not be seen as a reason to go ?
Another article here pointing out that Biden has reversed a Trump administration policy of using the public health order to quickly turn away unaccompanied children.
https://www.axios.com/biden-child-migrant-border-h...
purplepenguin said:
Byker28i said:
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Maybe if we all back off from the constant accusations of bad faith and discuss the actual thread topic,
You first - just yesterdayRonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
Otherwise you're just trolling,
This isn't your thread, you aren't a mod. Everything is linked whether you like it or not...
PRTVR said:
Did he not promise a route to citizenship for illegal migrants,
would that not be seen as a reason to go ?
The actual numbers crossing are still at the low levels we've seen since about 2011, though they've risen a little over the last 18 months they're not remotely close to the numbers seen back in 2004-8. The main issues are with how slowly asylum claims are processed, something which resourcing for was dramatically cut by the Trump administration so the funds could be redirected to support enforcement. This was compounded by an approach which saw the administration policy changed to criminally prosecuting any and all adults who crossed the Mexico-US border, even those that had legitimate asylum claims.would that not be seen as a reason to go ?
Byker28i said:
Biden says he'll sign H.R. 1 if it passes the Senate: "The right to vote is sacred and fundamental — it is the right from which all of our other rights as Americans spring. This landmark legislation is urgently needed to protect that right."
Does it just need a majority in the Senate ?Will HR1 prevent local state laws that Republicans have been pushing ?
Crafty_ said:
Byker28i said:
Biden says he'll sign H.R. 1 if it passes the Senate: "The right to vote is sacred and fundamental — it is the right from which all of our other rights as Americans spring. This landmark legislation is urgently needed to protect that right."
Does it just need a majority in the Senate ?Will HR1 prevent local state laws that Republicans have been pushing ?
Byker28i said:
PRTVR said:
Did he not promise a route to citizenship for illegal migrants,
would that not be seen as a reason to go ?
According to that article, numbers have been swelling since the middle of last year due to external factors, crime, violence, hardship. would that not be seen as a reason to go ?
Another article here pointing out that Biden has reversed a Trump administration policy of using the public health order to quickly turn away unaccompanied children.
https://www.axios.com/biden-child-migrant-border-h...
Unaccompanied kids being held for an average of 77hrs, longer than the 72hrs permitted by US law.
www.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/03/politics/immigration-us...
It's got to be serious if even CNN are saying how bad it is under Biden.
Does anyone know if Biden has addressed it over the last few days/weeks?......
www.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/03/politics/immigration-us...
It's got to be serious if even CNN are saying how bad it is under Biden.
Does anyone know if Biden has addressed it over the last few days/weeks?......
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