Peugeot 205 XR

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PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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So I decided I needed a project car as a lockdown hobby, teach myself to spanner. I was looking for a car that wasn't rusty, cheap to insure (180 quid a year! The 75 is 600 quid...) and for parts, and most importantly not too far away! So I picked up this.



More photos to follow...

Externally a little tatty - could do with a bonnet respray, a few scrapes/dents attended too, and a good polish. Interior js immaculate ... though very basic. Keep fit windows, no central locking, no tachometer! Manual choke! I don't even know how a manual choke works...

Its on 137k miles, though the seller thinks the engine/box was changed at some point as there is some paperwork for a lower mileage car mixed in. It went off the road in 2010, was tinkered with a bit by previous owner in 2013 then put off road again, then tinkered with to get through an mot in 2020. I have ordered aux belt cam belt water pump oil filter air filter spark plugs front discs and pads 5l oil...for the grand total of £108. Damn parts are cheap. I'm a very amateur mechanic with little skills so fitting the parts will be a test but part of the fun. Intend to change coolant and brake fluid as well.

We think it is the 75hp 1.4l engine. Makes quite the noise for a 4 cyl and can spin the tyres and move quite quickly probably due to weighing only 790kg

More to follow...

dunc69

688 posts

247 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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Good work Sir. I hope you enjoy and keep us all up to date!

I had a 205 (1.9) back in the 90s and absolutely loved it!!

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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Thanks Chief. Everyone seems to love a 205. Not driven it yet...got a quick spin by the seller but given it has been sitting 10 years think I should get the belts changed first.

xstian

1,968 posts

146 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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It looks like a good car. 3 door and a tidy shell and you can't really go wrong with these.

There are loads of interchangeable parts from other higher spec 205 and other Peugeot's. If it the 1.4 TU engine in your's, the Citroen Saxo VTS engine fits straight in, but it sound like yours is a carb model so its going to need a but of wiring, but should be plenty of info on the net. Or you can swap in a twin choked carb from a Citroen AX GT, if you can find one.

Another worth while up grade in fitting a GTi front subframe, this massively improves the handling.

I have a 205 XRAD van with a Peugeot 406 TD engine and gearbox fitted, GTi front subframe, 306 shocks, 207 brakes, 205 Rallye seats and wheels and a 205 D-turbo dash and a 205 auto bonnet. Its also running a charge cooler as well. A lot of Peugeot's and Citroen's around this time shared similar running gear. Enjoy smile

RC1807

12,522 posts

168 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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In 1987 I learned to drive in a 205 (GRD).
Fond memories.....

Good luck with the spannering!

paultownsend

2,269 posts

183 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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I think you may be learning how to put a GTi6 engine into a 205.....

Pastor Of Muppets

3,257 posts

62 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Nice find and a great car for a project. Bear in mind if you are going to put a GTi arch and door trim kit on it,
the back arches are a different shape, it can be done but you need to fettle the arches. Keep us updated.

Stick Legs

4,893 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Watching with interest, my wife had one as her first car, in the solid blue they used to come in, always had a soft spot for a 205.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Decided to give it a wash



Turns out i have 3 steelies and 1 alloy biglaugh didnt noticed when they were dirty....

Suggestions for replacement wheels welcome...

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Also learned the sunroof leaks!

Scrump

21,966 posts

158 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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That offside front looks like the standard xr steel wheel.

Jimmy No Hands

5,011 posts

156 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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I used a 1.8 non turbo diesel for about 6 months to commute in. Absolutely loved it. Handled well, went pretty well (even for the N/A) and returned a solid 55-60 mpg all day long. Ran it for buttons.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Ordered a couple of replacement drive shafts ... the cv boots need replaced and given the driveshafts are so cheap (75 quid delivered for two!) figured i might as well just replace them.

Can't decide what wheels to get, seems new wheels are massively expensive but used wheels tend to be pretty tatty and not very cheap...

CarlosV8

765 posts

172 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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Great choice for learning to spanner on, you'll have plenty of opportunity laugh

I first learnt to work on my own car (without my father's help) on a 205 XS (the slightly sportier version of yours). Armed with some basic tools and a Haynes manual I got to know the car inside out. First usual service items like you're doing and eventually a clutch and then an engine change. All good fun!

As someone else said there's loads of bolt on upgrades you can do using bits from other Peugeots / Citroens. For example, my current 205 has an engine from a Citroen ZX, rear axle from a 309 and front brakes from a 306!

I would consider the GTi pepperpot wheels for your car - always thought they looked good on non-GTi models (which is why I used them on my XS).

ALBA MELV

387 posts

156 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Great starting point for spannering. Had a 1.1 GL 5 door as my first car then a 1.6 GTi after that.

As for wheels, if it was mine, I'd be tempted with some 14" / 15" black steel wheels from a newer Peugeot / Citroen either as they are or with some slightly more modern wheel trims rather than alloys.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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I realised that the spare wheel appears to be a matching steel so maybe the rat rod look with old steelies is fine for now, if that wheel is in okay nick.

Suggestions for things worth changing are welcome

How bad an idea are sub £200 JOM Blueline coilovers ...

5harp3y

1,942 posts

199 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
I realised that the spare wheel appears to be a matching steel so maybe the rat rod look with old steelies is fine for now, if that wheel is in okay nick.

Suggestions for things worth changing are welcome

How bad an idea are sub £200 JOM Blueline coilovers ...
i have them on my mk2 (previous owner fitted them)

they are dogst

get some decent shocks and lowering springs. Eibach / Bilstein combo is always good

MC Bodge

21,620 posts

175 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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PrinceRupert said:
I realised that the spare wheel appears to be a matching steel so maybe the rat rod look with old steelies is fine for now, if that wheel is in okay nick.

Suggestions for things worth changing are welcome

How bad an idea are sub £200 JOM Blueline coilovers ...
Clean, painted, black steel wheels look fine.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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So, on Saturday I got a second set of keys cut at Timpsons as I only had one set. It appears that the replacement key has broken the boot lock, which will no longer turn. I've taken it out the car and it is sitting on my dining room table, but still won't turn, using either set of keys. The new key works on the ignition and the doors. How very annoying. Anyone know of a way of fixing a lock...?

The other odd thing is I seem to have a central locking mechanism in my boot - one of these - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_t... - with a cable connected to the lock. Yet it doesn't have central locking. Perhaps it does but someone has lost the keys...?

Rear footwell carpets were damp this evening. Which is odd, as it is parked in my carport. Must still be damp from washing the car. It was definitely leaking through the sunroof, but the footwells are damp on the opposite side. So maybe it is leaking from somewhere else as well. Boot seems dry, so don't think it is coming in that way.

PrinceRupert

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11,574 posts

85 months

Monday 30th November 2020
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Soaking in WD40. No sign of it working though. Can get a replacement lock for a mere 12 quid but then I'd have different keys for doors/ignition, boot and fuel cap:-/ plus I just spent 22 quid on spare keys!