How many have been vaccinated so far?
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vaud said:
Take the online booking and enjoy a day out and a picnic with full protection from police over-reaching powers?
Indeed. It seems my parents and their neighbours have been doing just this as there's no mass vaccine centre in our town, so you have the choice of several day trips to the neighbouring counties if you want to be done ASAP. Zoobeef said:
Your lack of understanding on how antibodies work explains alot.
Funny how you think you know more than the medical community. The evidence suggests there's a massive difference in the immune response of people who get covid naturally with mild cases only giving immune protection for a few months. I'm not a doctor but I'd suggest relying on people getting seriously ill with covid to gain meaningful immunity is a poor public health strategy."Vaccines for some pathogens, like pneumococcal bacteria, induce better immunity than the natural infection does. Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-na...
What is it with you antivaxxers that prevents even the most basic amount of research that doesn't involve facebook?
fblm said:
Funny how you think you know more than the medical community. The evidence suggests there's a massive difference in the immune response of people who get covid naturally with mild cases only giving immune protection for a few months. I'm not a doctor but I'd suggest relying on people getting seriously ill with covid to gain meaningful immunity is a poor public health strategy.
"Vaccines for some pathogens, like pneumococcal bacteria, induce better immunity than the natural infection does. Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-na...
What is it with you antivaxxers that prevents even the most basic amount of research that doesn't involve facebook?
Did you read passed the title?"Vaccines for some pathogens, like pneumococcal bacteria, induce better immunity than the natural infection does. Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-na...
What is it with you antivaxxers that prevents even the most basic amount of research that doesn't involve facebook?
Infection better immunity, but not as safe.
Thanks for proving my point.
vaud said:
PRTVR said:
Still waiting..... 
On line booking over 60 miles away nearest availability, two weeks since receiving letter, 64 years young,
Take the online booking and enjoy a day out and a picnic with full protection from police over-reaching powers? On line booking over 60 miles away nearest availability, two weeks since receiving letter, 64 years young,
Zoobeef said:
fblm said:
Funny how you think you know more than the medical community. The evidence suggests there's a massive difference in the immune response of people who get covid naturally with mild cases only giving immune protection for a few months. I'm not a doctor but I'd suggest relying on people getting seriously ill with covid to gain meaningful immunity is a poor public health strategy.
"Vaccines for some pathogens, like pneumococcal bacteria, induce better immunity than the natural infection does. Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-na...
What is it with you antivaxxers that prevents even the most basic amount of research that doesn't involve facebook?
Did you read passed the title?"Vaccines for some pathogens, like pneumococcal bacteria, induce better immunity than the natural infection does. Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-na...
What is it with you antivaxxers that prevents even the most basic amount of research that doesn't involve facebook?
Infection better immunity, but not as safe.
Thanks for proving my point.
Indeed it says:
[i] "choosing the disease over the vaccine is “a very bad decision,” she said.
The primary advantage of a vaccine is that it’s predictable and safe, she said. “It’s been optimally tailored to generate an effective immune response.” " [/i]
clockworks said:
Murph7355 said:
What did your friend of 30yrs take that to mean?
One presumes that any unprotected contact with people with the virus when in the nursing profession would mean quarantining would be likely anyway? Whether you've been vaccinated or not.
I took it to mean that the nurses would get 2 weeks paid holiday if they came into contact with a positive patient or colleague.One presumes that any unprotected contact with people with the virus when in the nursing profession would mean quarantining would be likely anyway? Whether you've been vaccinated or not.
Presumably this would happen whether they were vaccinated or not for now, but it may change in the future if (or when) it's proven conclusively that the vaccine reduces transmission substantially?
Everything I've read points to this being the case, but I guess there's no way to be sure yet.
If they have the vaccine, they might not get anymore free time off next winter. Human nature, but a strange mindset for a healthcare professional.
Not a single nurse I know would think this way. I suspect there may be some....but then if Professor Zoobeef is right then surely nurses would only get this payment once as having had Covid once they develop better immunity than anything.
Wombat3 said:
Zoobeef said:
fblm said:
Funny how you think you know more than the medical community. The evidence suggests there's a massive difference in the immune response of people who get covid naturally with mild cases only giving immune protection for a few months. I'm not a doctor but I'd suggest relying on people getting seriously ill with covid to gain meaningful immunity is a poor public health strategy.
"Vaccines for some pathogens, like pneumococcal bacteria, induce better immunity than the natural infection does. Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-na...
What is it with you antivaxxers that prevents even the most basic amount of research that doesn't involve facebook?
Did you read passed the title?"Vaccines for some pathogens, like pneumococcal bacteria, induce better immunity than the natural infection does. Early evidence suggests that the Covid-19 vaccines may fall into this category. Volunteers who received the Moderna shot had more antibodies — one marker of immune response — in their blood than did people who had been sick with Covid-19."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/covid-na...
What is it with you antivaxxers that prevents even the most basic amount of research that doesn't involve facebook?
Infection better immunity, but not as safe.
Thanks for proving my point.
Indeed it says:
[i] "choosing the disease over the vaccine is “a very bad decision,” she said.
The primary advantage of a vaccine is that it’s predictable and safe, she said. “It’s been optimally tailored to generate an effective immune response.” " [/i]
Which bit of the word salad you wrote there has anything to do with what I said?
Alpha1 said:
I had a text this morning from my GP inviting me for a vaccine, I'm 34 with no health issues. I called the GP and apparently they're onto my age group around here so perfectly legit. Sounds odd, anyone else? I'm in North Hampshire.
Sounds normal.My brother lives in an area where they appear to be quite organised with regards to getting the vaccine administered, and he was contacted last week to go for his vaccine.
He’s 37 and was told they are now onto the “under 40’s” category.
I was pretty impressed.
Zoobeef said:
I'm typing this slowly so you can understand.
Which bit of the word salad you wrote there has anything to do with what I said?
Well, I looked back over a couple of pages & its so long since you said anything that made any form of sense you'll have to re-enlighten us, what exactly is your point? (aside from a load of anti-vaxxing bullsWhich bit of the word salad you wrote there has anything to do with what I said?
t based on hair splitting, tin foil hat wearing nonsense) Zoobeef said:
Did you read passed the title?
Infection better immunity, but not as safe.
Thanks for proving my point.
Infection better immunity, but not as safe.
Thanks for proving my point.
Wombat3 said:
Methinks its you that did not read past the title, it says no such thing with reference to safety
Indeed it says:
[i] "choosing the disease over the vaccine is “a very bad decision,” she said.
The primary advantage of a vaccine is that it’s predictable and safe, she said. “It’s been optimally tailored to generate an effective immune response.” " [/i]
Indeed it says:
[i] "choosing the disease over the vaccine is “a very bad decision,” she said.
The primary advantage of a vaccine is that it’s predictable and safe, she said. “It’s been optimally tailored to generate an effective immune response.” " [/i]
Zoobeef said:
I'm typing this slowly so you can understand.
Which bit of the word salad you wrote there has anything to do with what I said?
Which bit of the word salad you wrote there has anything to do with what I said?
Wombat3 said:
Well, I looked back over a couple of pages & its so long since you said anything that made any form of sense you'll have to re-enlighten us, what exactly is your point? (aside from a load of anti-vaxxing bullst based on hair splitting nonsense)
I'm sorry I didn't realise that I was dealing with the mentally impared.t based on hair splitting nonsense) Usual band waggon jumping idiot that has no actual idea what is going on.
At no point have I said anything anti vax, at no point have I said that getting the virus is safer than the vaccine.
Don't worry though, keep elbowing the keyboard pleased with yourself that you are one of the "team".
Proper spethial
Edited by Zoobeef on Monday 8th March 14:18
PRTVR said:
vaud said:
PRTVR said:
Still waiting.....
On line booking over 60 miles away nearest availability, two weeks since receiving letter, 64 years young,
Take the online booking and enjoy a day out and a picnic with full protection from police over-reaching powers? On line booking over 60 miles away nearest availability, two weeks since receiving letter, 64 years young,
Murph7355 said:
Ahhhh. I get you.
Not a single nurse I know would think this way. I suspect there may be some....but then if Professor Zoobeef is right then surely nurses would only get this payment once as having had Covid once they develop better immunity than anything.
I have to admit, I don't know anyone "dumb" enough to think like that either.Not a single nurse I know would think this way. I suspect there may be some....but then if Professor Zoobeef is right then surely nurses would only get this payment once as having had Covid once they develop better immunity than anything.
In fact, I only know one person who has so far turned down the vaccine. He's early 50's, and was offered the jab a few weeks ago because he's a carer for his partner and her child, who both have disabilities that qualified them for their jabs a couple of weeks earlier. Despite them both having the jab, he hasn't.
I've spoken to him at length, and his reluctance stems from his distrust of medics. He's still thinking about it, hasn't ruled it out.
He had a cancer "scare" a couple of years ago. He went to see his GP with back pain and lethargy. Got sent for all sorts of tests, and was told he might have kidney problems. More tests, which ruled out a lot of things, so they told him it was probably cancer. He spent months thinking he was going to die a slow and painful death. Endoscopy done, turned out nothing wrong with him. Most likely a mix of stress and mild depression.
He won't go to the doctor at all now.
I kind of get where he's coming from. I had a similar experience with "ulcerative colitis" - turned out to be taking too much aspirin for a toothache (I had no idea that aspirin can cause internal bleeding). I also convinced myself I had a brain tumour, which turned out to be stress and depression from a difficult marriage.
The human mind can be a very strange thing.
Alpha1 said:
I had a text this morning from my GP inviting me for a vaccine, I'm 34 with no health issues. I called the GP and apparently they're onto my age group around here so perfectly legit. Sounds odd, anyone else? I'm in North Hampshire.
Under 35s have to have it in their backside. To reduce delays make sure you have your trousers around your ankles before you get in the cubicle.
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