Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

[simoid]

Scotland England games always bring out the best in some people…!

[simoid]

Vanden Saab said:

I cannot imagine why anybody would want to book or go on a holiday in Scotland at the moment. I can only guess that England was fully booked.

Scenery, weather has been decent (honest!), whisky, lovely people, golf courses, brilliant roads, cuisine and culture, etc etc etc

[biggbn]

Vanden Saab said:

I cannot imagine why anybody would want to book or go on a holiday in Scotland at the moment. I can only guess that England was fully booked.

Are you serious? Can you explain your post? What don't you like? Genuinely intersted, I am lucky enough to live here and can think of few places that tick so many boxes as a holiday destination. It seems quite popular with people the world over.

[Vanden Saab]

biggbn said:

Vanden Saab said:

I cannot imagine why anybody would want to book or go on a holiday in Scotland at the moment. I can only guess that England was fully booked.

Are you serious? Can you explain your post? What don't you like? Genuinely intersted, I am lucky enough to live here and can think of few places that tick so many boxes as a holiday destination. It seems quite popular with people the world over.

Exactly because of what has been happening and has just happened with the travel. I assume that people already in Scotland from Manchester will now have to go home or face a fine or even expulsion. AIUI the initial £30 fine can be doubled with every offence. Why would anybody in England risk either their holiday or repeated fines for going?

[hidetheelephants]

simoid said:

Scotland England games always bring out the best in some people…!

On Friday a crack team of See You Jimmy Hat wearers fled the country despite Madame Naw telling them not to go, got ste-faced, made an arse of themselves sitting in the fountain at Trafalgar Square and took selfies with a confused mime artist. I don't get these scottish people who seem to go out of their way to show their disregard for their own country.

TBH I don't care about either party and Madame Naw can take a running jump telling people what to do in their spare time, but whoever wrote that simpering whine about Ross is a massive roaster.

[simoid]

I was trying to think of the right words m, and whatever “massive roaster” is to the nth degree is almost close

[biggbn]

Vanden Saab said:

biggbn said:

Vanden Saab said:

I cannot imagine why anybody would want to book or go on a holiday in Scotland at the moment. I can only guess that England was fully booked.

Are you serious? Can you explain your post? What don't you like? Genuinely intersted, I am lucky enough to live here and can think of few places that tick so many boxes as a holiday destination. It seems quite popular with people the world over.

Exactly because of what has been happening and has just happened with the travel. I assume that people already in Scotland from Manchester will now have to go home or face a fine or even expulsion. AIUI the initial £30 fine can be doubled with every offence. Why would anybody in England risk either their holiday or repeated fines for going?

Thanks for your explanation, I was not up to date with regulations. The lunatics are in charge up here, and sadly they look to remain so. Have a great evening, gbn

[simoid]

I wouldn’t think so. Anti English policies like this will hammer the tourism industry but, of course, it’ll be the fault of the Tories. And especially those who get selfies with English folk.

[Greedydog]

The whole Manchester fiasco just shows the utter contempt Sturgeon and the SNP government have for anyone and everything that isn't part of their cause (whatever that may actually be). It plays well to a lot of the core support by being keeping the filthy infectious English out (remember the scenes at the border last year and the othering blame game?), makes her look decisive and powerful as she dictates not only to the Scots but the English, and best of all, it's all in the name of Mammy keeping Scotland safe. Win, win, win... and to hell with those it impacts.

I suspect this is just the opening salvo in another summer of division. How long before the '4 nations approach' on travel is dumped? How long before anything and everything is blamed for COVID levels remaining stubbornly high in Scotland? COVID is truly the gift that keeps on giving.

[NoddyonNitrous]

I doubt if many north of the border are obeying her diktats any more. Not sure those south of it will get her message either.

[Pastor Of Muppets]

And yet another one jumps from the stinking sinking ship.....

[TheJimi]

Greedydog said:

The whole Manchester fiasco just shows the utter contempt Sturgeon and the SNP government have for anyone and everything that isn't part of their cause (whatever that may actually be). It plays well to a lot of the core support by being keeping the filthy infectious English out (remember the scenes at the border last year and the othering blame game?), makes her look decisive and powerful as she dictates not only to the Scots but the English, and best of all, it's all in the name of Mammy keeping Scotland safe. Win, win, win... and to hell with those it impacts.

I suspect this is just the opening salvo in another summer of division. How long before the '4 nations approach' on travel is dumped? How long before anything and everything is blamed for COVID levels remaining stubbornly high in Scotland? COVID is truly the gift that keeps on giving.

Wholly agree.

[simoid]

Dare I ask… are we due an education report?

[ninja-lewis]

simoid said:

Dare I ask… are we due an education report?

https://www.oecd.org/education/scotland-s-curricul...

[sherman]

TheJimi said:

Greedydog said:

The whole Manchester fiasco just shows the utter contempt Sturgeon and the SNP government have for anyone and everything that isn't part of their cause (whatever that may actually be). It plays well to a lot of the core support by being keeping the filthy infectious English out (remember the scenes at the border last year and the othering blame game?), makes her look decisive and powerful as she dictates not only to the Scots but the English, and best of all, it's all in the name of Mammy keeping Scotland safe. Win, win, win... and to hell with those it impacts.

I suspect this is just the opening salvo in another summer of division. How long before the '4 nations approach' on travel is dumped? How long before anything and everything is blamed for COVID levels remaining stubbornly high in Scotland? COVID is truly the gift that keeps on giving.

Wholly agree.

Whats the plan to stop Scots actually going to manchester?
I could easily book a hotel room in manchester using my mother in laws address in nottingham. As the cross border travel is still open what is there actually to stop me entering manchester ?
I have no plans to visit manchester in the near future but if she has done it to one region whats to stop her doing it to another region?

[simoid]

ninja-lewis said:

https://www.oecd.org/education/scotland-s-curricul...

Strange, I searched the document for omnishambolic clusterfk and nothing came up

[aparna]

What's the TLDR?

[simoid]

aparna said:

What's the TLDR?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57526948

[Greedydog]

sherman said:

TheJimi said:

Greedydog said:

The whole Manchester fiasco just shows the utter contempt Sturgeon and the SNP government have for anyone and everything that isn't part of their cause (whatever that may actually be). It plays well to a lot of the core support by being keeping the filthy infectious English out (remember the scenes at the border last year and the othering blame game?), makes her look decisive and powerful as she dictates not only to the Scots but the English, and best of all, it's all in the name of Mammy keeping Scotland safe. Win, win, win... and to hell with those it impacts.

I suspect this is just the opening salvo in another summer of division. How long before the '4 nations approach' on travel is dumped? How long before anything and everything is blamed for COVID levels remaining stubbornly high in Scotland? COVID is truly the gift that keeps on giving.

Wholly agree.

Whats the plan to stop Scots actually going to manchester?
I could easily book a hotel room in manchester using my mother in laws address in nottingham. As the cross border travel is still open what is there actually to stop me entering manchester ?
I have no plans to visit manchester in the near future but if she has done it to one region whats to stop her doing it to another region?

I don't think there is one. She got her fingers burnt on this previously when Police Scotland said they would not be enforcing something similar, but with Nicola it's all about appearance, the message, sowing the seeds of division and playing to her supporters. The actual practical realities are ignored.

Obviously, if there is any evidence whatsoever of a single COVID case from Manchester, it will be shouted from the rooftops and held up as why Mammy was correct and it's all the fault of the filthy infectious English, and the selfish people (probably Tories obvs) who ignored her. (Whilst simultaneously and hypocritically ignoring all the local cases, see Dundee etc. and other potential infection vectors.)

[dxg]

simoid said:

aparna said:

What's the TLDR?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57526948

I had a look. It reads like a very sharp stone that's been smoothed into a pebble but extensive (and I mean extensive) editing. I wonder how many eyes were cast over it before it came out. I mean, the section headings are more powerful than the text they present.