Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

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rider73

2,993 posts

76 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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irc said:
"Bare in mind the SNP had committed to dual the whole of of the A9 to Inverness by 2025"

The SNP fail to meet targets all the time relying on the fact their supporters are feeble minded enough to have forgotten the promises a few years down the line.
Remember nicola doesn't think targets mean anything if you are not intelligent enough to understand that they don't mean anything when they state them as targets and or policy

dxg

8,124 posts

259 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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the-sharpener said:
i remember when the AWPR was finished but hadn't been opened due to someone somewhere playing silly buggers with the legal side
Well, there was the small problem if the bridge over the Don having its post tensioning ducts in the wrong place!!!! That took some overcoming!!

But, yes, that contractual delay only affected one of the four sections and the other three should have been opened up.

Aside: where's the inquiry on the massive overspend on that project?



irc

7,173 posts

135 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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As Effie Deans pointed out in a recent post.

"If we had voted for independence in 2014 the pandemic would have left us bankrupt. The billions we have received from the Treasury could only have come either from the EU as loan or from the IMF"

As a "No" voter in 2014 I am therefore waiting to be thanked sincerely by "Yes" voters for my part in saving our country from bankruptcy. Will I have to wait long?

the-sharpener

547 posts

32 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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dxg said:
Well, there was the small problem if the bridge over the Don having its post tensioning ducts in the wrong place!!!! That took some overcoming!!

But, yes, that contractual delay only affected one of the four sections and the other three should have been opened up.

Aside: where's the inquiry on the massive overspend on that project?

The McGammons swear blind it was delivered under budget and early

It must be great to live in their reality

technodup

7,576 posts

129 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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irc said:
As Effie Deans pointed out in a recent post.

"If we had voted for independence in 2014 the pandemic would have left us bankrupt. The billions we have received from the Treasury could only have come either from the EU as loan or from the IMF"
nono Silly, if we'd voted yes we'd all now be literally swimming in oil and whisky and we'd be rich I tell you.

Why they think independence will suddenly increase the amount of money made from either is unclear, when both are literally products of time. I'd ask a cult member but they seem to have retreated.

csd19

2,170 posts

116 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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dxg said:
the-sharpener said:
i remember when the AWPR was finished but hadn't been opened due to someone somewhere playing silly buggers with the legal side
Well, there was the small problem if the bridge over the Don having its post tensioning ducts in the wrong place!!!! That took some overcoming!!

But, yes, that contractual delay only affected one of the four sections and the other three should have been opened up.

Aside: where's the inquiry on the massive overspend on that project?

I think we all know where it is, Holyrood must have carpets echoing the roads for unexplained lumps and bumps...

ant1973

5,693 posts

204 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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I see the press is full of speculation about a circuit breaker being proposed by "experts" (the same people who tell us that masks will keep us safe cf England).

I am intrigued by this. Is she going to damage businesses who are no longer supported by furlough or grants?

I think not.

It's shaping up to be an intriguing prospect. My money is on banning indoor gatherings in a social setting but allowing the pubs to stay open, etc.

We are talking about people who have promulgated legislation which requires businesses to pay heed to guidance on covid but without the threat of any sanction if they fail to do so.

Also, eating and drinking in any setting is a straight get out of jail free card re masking. Sales of tic tacs are likely to soar...

Leithen

10,800 posts

266 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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I’ve given up trying to predict what she might do.

I was feeling pretty pissed off about latest developments then the neighbour phoned to say two of our Bulls were on the road. More bullst everywhere including in the process the garden.

Then to cap it all a positive lateral flow result for one of our pub staff. Ducking wonderful.

the-sharpener

547 posts

32 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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She won't do anything too different from england

but at the same time she must show how much she cares

with a bonus if the big bad english won't let her do it

I'm betting on closing the border

AGAIN

57 Chevy

5,409 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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the-sharpener said:
I'm betting on closing the border
To keep the cases in?

the-sharpener

547 posts

32 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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57 Chevy said:
the-sharpener said:
I'm betting on closing the border
To keep the cases in?
No

To keep them out as only english people carry the disease

or tories

as TORIES never wear a mask

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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It does seem to be a case of nationalism in action;

a) ploughing ones own furrow, regardless of whether that furrow is pretty much in the same direction as the existing furrow, it is nevertheless important to have ones own furrow and be seen to be ostentatiously ploughing it.
b) blaming outsiders for things going wrong, although SNP and the Welsh Government seem to have narrowed that down to disassociation with and blaming the English (see also Brexit and 2nd homes).

sherman

13,071 posts

214 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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If the beer supply crisis isnt sorted soon the pubs will be shut anyway frown

aparna

1,156 posts

36 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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The recent Andrew Wilson podcast on Scotland’s choice is worth a listen if you are interested in that ‘side’ of things.

Part one is retrospective probably skippable. Part two more forward facing and interesting.


alangla

4,723 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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I’m going to predict a couple of decent sized outbreaks in student accommodation when the Unis go back, followed rapidly with Sturgeon doing one of her TV briefings to deliver a “not scapegoating” scapegoating of students. This will manifest itself as students specifically being banned from pubs as per last year, freshers weeks being banned and probably a restriction in class sizes to something less than a typical tutorial group. Oh, and masks absolutely everywhere forever & further absolutely scapegoating of any students allegedly unvaxxed.

Anyone agree/disagree?

aparna

1,156 posts

36 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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alangla said:
I’m going to predict a couple of decent sized outbreaks in student accommodation when the Unis go back, followed rapidly with Sturgeon doing one of her TV briefings to deliver a “not scapegoating” scapegoating of students. This will manifest itself as students specifically being banned from pubs as per last year, freshers weeks being banned and probably a restriction in class sizes to something less than a typical tutorial group. Oh, and masks absolutely everywhere forever & further absolutely scapegoating of any students allegedly unvaxxed.

Anyone agree/disagree?
I don’t think there will be anything big except ‘free’ stuff (eg masks) until winter where any response will be coordinated UK wide. With some token variation but nothing substantial.


Edited by aparna on Thursday 26th August 18:00

the-sharpener

547 posts

32 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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aparna said:
I don’t think there will be anything big except ‘free’ stuff (eg masks) until winter where any response will be coordinated UK wide. With some token variation but nothing substantial.


Edited by aparna on Thursday 26th August 18:00
Free masks looks like a good call

to show how caring they are

it will be one box of them

in a holyrood basement

in a room with no lights behind a door marked beware of the killer haggis

alangla

4,723 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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the-sharpener said:
in a room with no lights behind a door marked beware of the killer haggis
Is that not one of the “funny” phrases on the permanently locked out toilets on ScotRail’s barely functioning HST sets?

633Squadron

1,727 posts

36 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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Well, fk me gently with the bell end of a rag man's trumpet. - I mean who could of seen this coming?


https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19539640.s...
SNP auditors make unprecedented fraud statement in party accounts


THE SNP’s auditors have included an unprecedented statement about fraud in the party’s new accounts as police investigate potential criminality around fundraising.

Finance experts Johnston Carmichael LLP inserted a lengthy section on the “extent to which the audit was considered capable of detecting irregularities, including fraud”.

The accountancy firm revealed it had been reading the minutes of the party’s ruling body and audit & finance committee to check for “events that may impact the financial statements”.

Three members of the finance committee resigned earlier this year in protest over a lack of transparency, as did the then party treasurer, MP Douglas Chapman.

The auditors also said they had “obtained an understanding of the legal and regulatory frameworks that the party operates in”, with a focus on “material amounts and disclosures”.


633Squadron

1,727 posts

36 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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Try not to piss yourself laughing.....


SNP reveals salary of Nicola Sturgeon's husband in party annual accounts
The figure was included in a filing by the SNP published by the Electoral Commission.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon ’s husband Peter Murrell earned nearly £80,000 last year as chief executive of the SNP.

It was the first time the party had published the figure in a number of years.

The figure was disclosed after the SNP accounts were published by the Electoral Commission this morning, August 26.

Murrell has been dogged by claims the party headquarters he runs as CEO lacks transparency.

However, the accounts state: "As of 31 May 2021, the annual salary of our Chief Executive is £79,750.”

They also reveal that the overall number of SNP members at the end of 2020 fell to 105,393, down from 125,691 on December 31, 2019.

There has since been an increase in new members. By the end of May 2021, the number had increased to over 119,000.

The accounts also referred to the controversy over how hundreds of thousands of pounds raised for indyref2 were allocated. Criticism prompted complaints to the police.

The accounts state: "Over many decades an internal process has been in use whereby, if a donor expresses a wish for his/her donation to be utilised for a particular purpose ­whether of his/her own accord, or because they have donated in response to a particular appeal ­ this is recorded within HQ and a running total of such requests recorded.

"This includes full details of the donor and the size of each individual donation.

"In due course, as money is utilised for a stated purpose, the balance of any such total is reduced until the obligation is expunged. Donations made to the independence related fundraising appeals have been treated in this way.

"They are recorded within HQ as being related to these appeals, and amounts raised will be spent for the intended purpose.

"Of course, the SNP is the party of independence and, as such, every penny we spend – directly or indirectly – is in support of winning independence.

"However, through this internal process we will ensure that the sums raised from these appeals will go directly to our work to secure a referendum and win independence."

In total, the accounts of 341 political parties were published by the Electoral Commission, as well as 378 accounting units with an income or expenditure over £25,000.

Louise Edwards, Director of Regulation at the Commission, said: "All registered political parties must keep financial records and submit annual statements of accounts to us. Publishing this data helps voters see political parties’ income and what they’re spending.

"This is an important part of delivering transparency in political finance in the UK, and in enhancing public confidence and trust in our democratic processes."
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