The EU v UK vaccine tussle

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anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Cupramax

10,469 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Funny how we’ve heard next to nothing from the EU throughout all this pandemic, despite its members like Italy and Spain being in dier straights and now suddenly they’re getting all punchy. First come first served like anything else is how it should be. If they don’t like it perhaps they should be a bit more prepared, for all the mistakes the govt has made, vaccination is not one of them.

JagLover

42,265 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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The EU is trying to divert attention from their own failures by blaming others for "stealing" their vaccines.

Hopefully this should have no impact on our own vaccination programme and is just noise.

frisbee

4,956 posts

109 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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It isn't as simple as first come first served.

If this company has made a contractual agreement with the EU, or anyone, promising to supply a certain number of doses then it is contractually obliged to deliver them.

Ultimately where the factories are physically located will be the deciding factor.

anonymous-user

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53 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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It's a weird situation.

Seems like they want to come to the show late and still get the best seats.

I can understand the need to protect EU citizens, but they're going about this in a really poor manner.

essayer

9,010 posts

193 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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52/48


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Ridgemont

6,486 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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The original article which pretty much lays out AZ’s position (and makes the EU look like cretins)

https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/01/26/news/...


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

53 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Ridgemont said:
The original article which pretty much lays out AZ’s position (and makes the EU look like cretins)

https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2021/01/26/news/...
Which they are

don'tbesilly

13,900 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Perhaps they'll sort things out tonight, but it does sound as any blame is going only one way?


skahigh

2,023 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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Good piece from Tom Chivers today on this.

don'tbesilly

13,900 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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This isn't going well!



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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55822602[u...

bitchstewie

50,776 posts

209 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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It's a right old ugly mess isn't it.

Have they even approved the AZ vaccine?

don'tbesilly

13,900 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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bhstewie said:
It's a right old ugly mess isn't it.

Have they even approved the AZ vaccine?
No!

AngryYorkshireman

110 posts

44 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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anonymous said:
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It's worse than that, they want to reserve the seats without paying a deposit so no-one else can use them, haven't even decided if they want to watch the show and then pay cost price if they decide to turn up.

I'm sure if we sent some vaccines over from the UK they'd hold them up in customs until they were useless just because the driver was eating a ham sandwich.

The EU never fails to disappoint.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so serious.

buggalugs

9,243 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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The EU lady was on the radio earlier talking about the lives at risk by the virus. But our lives are at risk by the virus too. So I guess it really is first come first served. We committed 3 months before they did.

Remember all the moaners last year when the UK decided not to join the EU’s vaccine purchasing efforts...

pquinn

7,167 posts

45 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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German MEPs talking about vaccine wars, busy threatening export bans while demanding access to other countries' production. And wanting to ignore contracts because they don't like what they mean.

Blind flailing, making everything someone else's fault while looking like idiots.

About what you expect from a crew made up of political failures and an appointee European Commissioner for Health and Food Safety from one of the sttier member states.

jimmythingy

312 posts

61 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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I'm trying to find the story but before Christmas the EU were bragging about how they had negotiated a better price for the the vaccine than the UK. So no wonder they took months to agree.

And I'm sure this story does not help relations with the manufacturers

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/18/belg...


CarlosFandango11

1,914 posts

185 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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frisbee said:
It isn't as simple as first come first served.

If this company has made a contractual agreement with the EU, or anyone, promising to supply a certain number of doses then it is contractually obliged to deliver them.

Ultimately where the factories are physically located will be the deciding factor.
You forget the date of when the doses would be supplied, and there being a contract with the UK.
Given that the EU contract was agreed relatively early, with massive uncertainty about building a production process, there will be get out clauses for Astra-Zeneca.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,787 posts

70 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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The EU must be livid at being seen to be even more incompetent than Boris Johnson in the first month of our slide into obscure poverty after leaving their club.

Earthdweller

13,431 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th January 2021
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You know when a business hits the point when a customer just becomes too much aggro to deal with ?