Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 2)

Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 2)

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crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Meanwhile an industry area which caused so much angst and consternation earlier this year, shellfish. The waters from which these fish are taken were Grade ‘B’ and thus the shellfish were deemed to be requiring the washing before transportation into the EU areas. Even though the EU had agreed before brexit that those shellfish could be exported live into EU zones.
Happily the waters in question have now been inspected and upgraded to Grade ‘A’ therefore catches from these waters are perfectly good ready for live export. Just waiting now for the EU rubber stamp.
Like many obstacles arising from brexit trade can be resolved for the benefit of everbody.

Jazzer77

1,533 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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crankedup said:
Meanwhile an industry area which caused so much angst and consternation earlier this year, shellfish. The waters from which these fish are taken were Grade ‘B’ and thus the shellfish were deemed to be requiring the washing before transportation into the EU areas. Even though the EU had agreed before brexit that those shellfish could be exported live into EU zones.
Happily the waters in question have now been inspected and upgraded to Grade ‘A’ therefore catches from these waters are perfectly good ready for live export. Just waiting now for the EU rubber stamp.
Like many obstacles arising from brexit trade can be resolved for the benefit of everbody.
Glossing over the potential decline of London with shellfish...

Mrr T

12,224 posts

265 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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crankedup said:
Meanwhile an industry area which caused so much angst and consternation earlier this year, shellfish. The waters from which these fish are taken were Grade ‘B’ and thus the shellfish were deemed to be requiring the washing before transportation into the EU areas. Even though the EU had agreed before brexit that those shellfish could be exported live into EU zones.
Happily the waters in question have now been inspected and upgraded to Grade ‘A’ therefore catches from these waters are perfectly good ready for live export. Just waiting now for the EU rubber stamp.
Like many obstacles arising from brexit trade can be resolved for the benefit of everbody.
So for many years British fishermen have been forced to purify muscles and oysters fished in the much of the UK, which costs money, because the UK decided they were caught in class B waters.

It now seem the UK government was wrong and they are really class A waters so no purification is required.

That a real win for UK government incompetence.

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
crankedup said:
Meanwhile an industry area which caused so much angst and consternation earlier this year, shellfish. The waters from which these fish are taken were Grade ‘B’ and thus the shellfish were deemed to be requiring the washing before transportation into the EU areas. Even though the EU had agreed before brexit that those shellfish could be exported live into EU zones.
Happily the waters in question have now been inspected and upgraded to Grade ‘A’ therefore catches from these waters are perfectly good ready for live export. Just waiting now for the EU rubber stamp.
Like many obstacles arising from brexit trade can be resolved for the benefit of everbody.
Glossing over the potential decline of London with shellfish...
And there was I thinking how pleased and interested remainers would be knowing that the shellfish
industry could soon be back on its feet. Might have guessed, any brexit news that is good is instantly dismissed by the loons,

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Mrr T said:
crankedup said:
Meanwhile an industry area which caused so much angst and consternation earlier this year, shellfish. The waters from which these fish are taken were Grade ‘B’ and thus the shellfish were deemed to be requiring the washing before transportation into the EU areas. Even though the EU had agreed before brexit that those shellfish could be exported live into EU zones.
Happily the waters in question have now been inspected and upgraded to Grade ‘A’ therefore catches from these waters are perfectly good ready for live export. Just waiting now for the EU rubber stamp.
Like many obstacles arising from brexit trade can be resolved for the benefit of everbody.
So for many years British fishermen have been forced to purify muscles and oysters fished in the much of the UK, which costs money, because the UK decided they were caught in class B waters.

It now seem the UK government was wrong and they are really class A waters so no purification is required.

That a real win for UK government incompetence.
Seems to me that the U.K. Government ordered the inspection of these waters in a hope that it would help resolve the issues faced by the industry. Seems that the re-classification may well solve the issue, U.K. shellfish folk start exporting to EU regions with live stocks again and customers in the EU zones once again have stock that they prefer.
All the sad faced lamenting week after week about shellfish fishermen thrown to the wolves, another industry doomed thanks to brexit. Another load of daft commentary debunked.

Jazzer77

1,533 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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crankedup said:
And there was I thinking how pleased and interested remainers would be knowing that the shellfish
industry could soon be back on its feet. Might have guessed, any brexit news that is good is instantly dismissed by the loons,
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:00


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:01

barryrs

4,389 posts

223 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 , troll, alledged racist , possible ban
stongle , troll, serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.
Loving the self awareness.

Jazzer77

1,533 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
barryrs said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 , troll, alledged racist , possible ban
stongle , troll, serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.
Loving the self awareness.
I've been posting about the risk to London for 18+ months.
Consistently shouted down by stongle.

Who was right all along?

loafer123

15,434 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.
People aren’t posting because you aren’t listening. It’s pointless. We might as well talk to a loaf of bread.

If you listened, you would know that whilst some jobs have moved to the EU, more have been created as EU companies create U.K. branches.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.
I've not looked at this thread for a long time, principally due to endless ranting from the various names you mentioned. The real oddity to me is that even when they won their "prize" of Brexit they just carried on ranting.

I was constantly put in my place by robust assertions that, "There will never be any form of border in the Irish Sea; UK sovereignty will be absolute and consistent". Yeah right.

turbobloke

103,929 posts

260 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.
Given we know where the irony is, that point is moot.

Same with the 'ranting' reply, except that has humour added.

166 MM Barchetta

692 posts

57 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:00


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:01
I think you missed Helicopter123, MX5NUT and Stay in Bed instead off your list of trolls, can’t think why?
Oh, and FYI, calling people loons is pretty poor, insinuating that people have mental issues just because they disagree with you is both pitiful and cowardly.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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166 MM Barchetta said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:00


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:01
I think you missed Helicopter123, MX5NUT and Stay in Bed instead off your list of trolls, can’t think why?
Oh, and FYI, calling people loons is pretty poor, insinuating that people have mental issues just because they disagree with you is both pitiful and cowardly.
Such is the nature of remoaners.

turbobloke

103,929 posts

260 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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mybrainhurts said:
166 MM Barchetta said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:00


Edited by Jazzer77 on Sunday 18th April 17:01
I think you missed Helicopter123, MX5NUT and Stay in Bed instead off your list of trolls, can’t think why?
Oh, and FYI, calling people loons is pretty poor, insinuating that people have mental issues just because they disagree with you is both pitiful and cowardly.
Such is the nature of remoaners.
Good spot!

blueg33

35,847 posts

224 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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loafer123 said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.
People aren’t posting because you aren’t listening. It’s pointless. We might as well talk to a loaf of bread.

If you listened, you would know that whilst some jobs have moved to the EU, more have been created as EU companies create U.K. branches.
Do you have links stating the number of jobs moved and jobs created please.

166 MM Barchetta

692 posts

57 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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blueg33 said:
Do you have links stating the number of jobs moved and jobs created please.
“Please” rolleyes

Would you care to back up with evidence your own claims?
Company name, employee numbers, site in Yorkshire to be closed along with jobs lost, any jobs that can be transferred, sites in Europe to be developed, number of employees needed along with expected salaries so we can see the actual costs to your business in order to see yours, and this countries losses “because Brexit”.
Oh, and do be a good chap and give a brief summary as to why, as you claim, a business was set up last February that failed to plan around an imminent Brexit to such an extent that they opened a site in the uk but now, need to move to Europe. Dread to think what the staff will think when they are told, but, less than 2 years so hey ho.........


Or........








Forgot to add....

It’s easy to turn it round......... wink

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Edited by 166 MM Barchetta on Sunday 18th April 20:09

Vanden Saab

14,065 posts

74 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Jazzer77 said:
Hilarious, if you were not just a hit and runner you would have seen that this was covered a couple of days ago when one of your fellow bad news gloaters posted it. I see your 400 hundred out and raise you over 1,000 in...
BBC said:
Brexit: 1,000 EU finance firms 'set to open UK offices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56155531
I know you should be embarrassed but I doubt you will be...
rofl

166 MM Barchetta

692 posts

57 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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Word fail me that I actually voted the same way that some on here claim to have voted.
As someone who wanted to remain I have taken quite some education from this and the negotiation topic.
I will happily admit that I voted economically, but I also voted with a big slice of, I suppose, lethargy.
I was happy with things as they were, I didn’t want, or maybe, I couldn’t see the point of change, when for me, it wasn’t needed.
When I see posts plunging to the depths of “the vintage watch industry” being effected by Brexit I frankly despair at the desperation of some to “score points”.
I mean, at what point did the poster who posted that, and many others, consider the vintage watch industry when they voted, simply, they didn’t, they never knew anything about it but suddenly it’s and issue. It’s disingenuous bullst.
People voted for all manner of reasons both to stay and to leave, it seems that the remain side, my side, really are struggling with all of this, it’s got to the point where I think that some of the remain camp on here think that if they find enough issues the whole thing goes back to the way they were by magic.
Or, more importantly on here, if they get an apology from those who voted leave then it’s a win, but the apology changes nothing, it doesn’t magically repair the damage to whatever niche industry they’ve found to say “I told you so”, but they don’t care, and that’s what separates the desperate trolls from those who want to discuss it. It’s as embarrassing as it is obvious.

To Blue, I don’t really want the details, I’m sure things have been awful if you have to move, but don’t be that poster that demands all the details about leaving in the hope you can trip someone up, whilst at the same time giving us all nothing but anecdotal evidence about the bad side with out challenge. It simply doesn’t add up, and, as I feel I’ve point out, it doesn’t work one way.
As a proud Yorkshireman I’m gutted to see business leaving, so all the best, if there’s anything that can change then I hope it does. ( nothing wrong with green or brown Ferrari’s either wink )

loafer123

15,434 posts

215 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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blueg33 said:
loafer123 said:
Jazzer77 said:
Its not dismissed but it doesnt outweigh the risk of a huge chunk of the UK economy.

The only loons on here tend to be on the Brexit side.

Tuna - troll, gone.
Gooner1 - alledged racist , possible ban
stongle - serial abuser, possible ban.

The fact that you're in the trenches with Turbobloke and Pan Pan etc... should show you who the real loons are.
People aren’t posting because you aren’t listening. It’s pointless. We might as well talk to a loaf of bread.

If you listened, you would know that whilst some jobs have moved to the EU, more have been created as EU companies create U.K. branches.
Do you have links stating the number of jobs moved and jobs created please.
Vanden Saab has kindly posted it yet again.

Frankly I can’t be arsed because it has been done many many times before.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 18th April 2021
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loafer123 said:
it has been done many many times before.
Meanwhile, back in sunny UK, how's that "border down the Irish Sea" working out? Well, the expression "UK" doesn't really call to mind a united much of anything. Let's have a quick check around,
  • England and Wales? More or less still there, despite the best efforts of the Welsh disassembly. Four week fire break? Border at the Severn Estuary? Nice work lads.
  • Scotland? Wee Jimmy Crankie is on track to leave leave UK and rejoin EU if she can get her old mate Alex on side. Don't hold your breath. Boom time for Boris and his hangers on? In your prayers.
  • Northern Ireland? Ah, now there's a question. Although, of course, there are no issues - so nothing to talk about. Not a thing. No, really, nothing at all. Except Arlene Foster's impersonation of Ian Paisley. It's a very good impersonation. Lovely woman. As honest as the day is long.
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