Idiots, should they be charged/fined.

[Kawasicki]

eldar said:

Kawasicki said:

Yep. Every day I put my life at risk to develop cars that are safer to drive. A little gratitude would be nice.

So it is your fault that cars are all bloated lardarses, and look the same..

It’s for your own good. A simple thanks would suffice.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Some years ago, I was on the cliffs of Moa in Ireland, where a fence had been erected to try to stop people getting too close to the edge. It did not work, and quite a few had climbed over the fence, and were sitting and standing, and even picnicking right at the edge.
When looking back at where they were doing this, it was plain to see they were standing / sitting on a strata that was no more than around a 100mm thick, projecting out of a near thousand foot drop.
My view was that if people wanted to be that stupid, they should be allowed to, as it was their lives they were risking after all.
I also thought that if the cliff did give way (as in the past it had done so, leading to deaths) absolutely no one should risk their lives trying to save them. If they die because of their own stupidity then f*ck em. Other peoples lives must not be risked, or lost, to pay for other peoples blatant and obvious utter stupidity.

Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Monday 1st March 11:44

[JagLover]

oyster said:

But what’s really astonishing is how PH seems dominated by them right now. I’m no fan of Covid lockdowns, indeed paid the price for it many times over, but still don’t have this vitriol against supporting society as a whole.

You don't "support society" by foregoing activities such as this.

It is those cowering behind their sofas that seem to think that all those mad people out there, getting on with life, exercising in the fresh air, are somehow "causing" this by "breaking the rules". A certain amount of spread is inevitable and is occurring in hospitals, care homes and those work places that cannot be shut.

The real complaint about this family is that they are still trying to live their lives, and are not buying into the hysteria, not that they are somehow "spreading" it by travelling to the coast and then camping in the middle of nowhere.

[Countdown]

JagLover said:

You don't "support society" by foregoing activities such as this.

You support society by not doing pointless things that risk spreading the infection. Now "One" person doing a stupid thing doesn't massively increase the risk of infection, but it encourages other people to think like lemmings "well, if they're doing it, then I can do it as well" and with each additional lemming, the risk increases exponentially. That's before you get to the lunatics who believe that this is a conspiracy by the Government to chip us all with 5G RFID tags

JagLover said:

It is those cowering behind their sofas that seem to think that all those mad people out there, getting on with life, exercising in the fresh air, are somehow "causing" this by "breaking the rules". A certain amount of spread is inevitable and is occurring in hospitals, care homes and those work places that cannot be shut.

The people who are following COVID guidelines aren't "cowering behind sofas". We are just following fairly simple guidelines. Yes, we can't go to pubs/restaurants/holidays but behaving like dicks won't bring about the end of lockdown any quicker.

[eldar]

Kawasicki said:

eldar said:

Kawasicki said:

Yep. Every day I put my life at risk to develop cars that are safer to drive. A little gratitude would be nice.

So it is your fault that cars are all bloated lardarses, and look the same..

It’s for your own good. A simple thanks would suffice.

I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your life threatening endeavours to make the world a safer, better and happier place.

How do you put your life at risk daily developing cars?

[Jasandjules]

Anyone else see the OP like this?

[Kawasicki]

eldar said:

I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your life threatening endeavours to make the world a safer, better and happier place.

How do you put your life at risk daily developing cars?

You’re welcome.

I wake in the morning, often I need to use stairs to descend to ground floor. Lethal, those things.

Then I get to work. I spend days driving emergency lane changes from 40 to 155 mph on dry and wet surfaces. Hours lapping handling tracks. The last two weeks I have been driving on snow through forests with 600 bhp awd cars, if I get it wrong I will suffer. And I do all this to make the world a safer place for all.

[Harry H]

Kawasicki said:

Then I get to work. I spend days driving emergency lane changes from 40 to 155 mph on dry and wet surfaces. Hours lapping handling tracks. The last two weeks I have been driving on snow through forests with 600 bhp awd cars, if I get it wrong I will suffer. And I do all this to make the world a safer place for all.

Sounds like hell. I am amazed you get paid for it though as most of us would do it for free.

[Pothole]

Skyedriver said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-y...

Family risk life camping on a dangerous cliff edge. And have ravelled against current CV rulings.
Apart from the CV19 fines should these people not be charged for the call out of the Coastguards etc?

Where had they travelled from?

[anonymous-user]

Alucidnation said:

Unfortunately, as you can see from this thread, nobody gives a fk about the people who put their lives at risk to help selfish s.

Tbh my mate saves people like this and he loves them for creating work for him.

If nobody did anything remotely dangerous we wouldn’t need half of the rescuing going on.

It does seem a very odd place to pitch a tent though.

[Short Grain]

They just like living life on the edge!!

Sorry!!

[anonymous-user]

Kawasicki said:

eldar said:

I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your life threatening endeavours to make the world a safer, better and happier place.

How do you put your life at risk daily developing cars?

You’re welcome.

I wake in the morning, often I need to use stairs to descend to ground floor. Lethal, those things.

Then I get to work. I spend days driving emergency lane changes from 40 to 155 mph on dry and wet surfaces. Hours lapping handling tracks. The last two weeks I have been driving on snow through forests with 600 bhp awd cars, if I get it wrong I will suffer. And I do all this to make the world a safer place for all.

Perhaps if you stopped driving like a loon, the world might be a bit safer! (#envious)

[oyster]

JagLover said:

oyster said:

But what’s really astonishing is how PH seems dominated by them right now. I’m no fan of Covid lockdowns, indeed paid the price for it many times over, but still don’t have this vitriol against supporting society as a whole.

You don't "support society" by foregoing activities such as this.

It is those cowering behind their sofas that seem to think that all those mad people out there, getting on with life, exercising in the fresh air, are somehow "causing" this by "breaking the rules". A certain amount of spread is inevitable and is occurring in hospitals, care homes and those work places that cannot be shut.

The real complaint about this family is that they are still trying to live their lives, and are not buying into the hysteria, not that they are somehow "spreading" it by travelling to the coast and then camping in the middle of nowhere.

JagLover there is literally nothing I disagree with on your reply. Perhaps I’ve posted my frustration in the wrong thread. It’s the level of anger though from some people who seem to be suggesting all restrictions should be lifted, or worse should never have been there in the first place. It’s almost snowflake-like.

[yellowjack]

Countdown said:

Skyedriver said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-y...

Family risk life camping on a dangerous cliff edge. And have ravelled against current CV rulings.
Apart from the CV19 fines should these people not be charged for the call out of the Coastguards etc?

Some people are just selfish dicks and don't give a toss about anybody else.

Amazing. Yet as soon as anyone here on PH sticks their head above the parapet and criticises Muppets who speed, park inconsiderately, and commit variouis driving offences, they get told to "fk off back to Mumsnet/BRAKE and mind their own business". This is just the same. Some people are happy to obey the law, and rejoice in mini-moaning and reporting those who don't. Those who don't obey the law ask the same question speeding motorists often ask - "why am I being punished when I wasn't bothering anyone else?"

So no, it wasn't exactly a sensible place to pitch a tent, but it looks (to me, anyway) that they chose that spot to keep out of sight of interfering busy-bodies who would delight in twitching the curtains and 'phoning the rozzers at the drop of a cigarette butt. Folk need to mind their own business, I reckon. Because that's exactly what I'm told to do when I chime in with criticism of the OP in yet another "how do I wriggle out of points and a fine" thread.

[Kawasicki]

purplepenguin said:

Perhaps if you stopped driving like a loon, the world might be a bit safer! (#envious)

I am holier than thou, what I do, I do to protect others, altruism through and through.

[yellowjack]

The Spruce Goose said:

noticed this story, yet not given the 'dangerous slant;', when this story seems worse, taking a dog off lead next to cliff, then getting rescue to save them..

https://www.thisisthecoast.co.uk/news/local-news/d...

Absolute morons. Imagine taking your dog for a walk on a coastal path when there were probably dozens of far safer places to exercise themselves and their dog closer to home. Let's hope that the local constabulary pay them the home visit they so richly deserve, and throw the Covid rule book at them. Then perhaps they should get the RSPCA involved so that the poor dog can be rehomed with a responsible owner and the current owners should be thrown in jail (and the key thrown away) for recklessly endangering the safety not only of their pet, but of everyone in the rescue effort too...

The only real decision to be made here is whether to file this in 'Mind how you go' or 'Couldn't make it up'...

[Skyedriver]

Alucidnation said:

Unfortunately, as you can see from this thread, nobody gives a fk about the people who put their lives at risk to help selfish s.

That's a worry, Alucidnation and I in total agreement.

[survivalist]

Countdown said:

JagLover said:

You don't "support society" by foregoing activities such as this.

You support society by not doing pointless things that risk spreading the infection. Now "One" person doing a stupid thing doesn't massively increase the risk of infection, but it encourages other people to think like lemmings "well, if they're doing it, then I can do it as well" and with each additional lemming, the risk increases exponentially. That's before you get to the lunatics who believe that this is a conspiracy by the Government to chip us all with 5G RFID tags

JagLover said:

It is those cowering behind their sofas that seem to think that all those mad people out there, getting on with life, exercising in the fresh air, are somehow "causing" this by "breaking the rules". A certain amount of spread is inevitable and is occurring in hospitals, care homes and those work places that cannot be shut.

The people who are following COVID guidelines aren't "cowering behind sofas". We are just following fairly simple guidelines. Yes, we can't go to pubs/restaurants/holidays but behaving like dicks won't bring about the end of lockdown any quicker.

I don't think people who are ignoring the guidance think it will make lockdown end sooner, I think they are just enjoying the activities they can. Camping on cliff edge may be a bad idea, but that would be a case regardless of Covid-19.

Having a quick peek at the comments on the Sussex Police Facebook page does suggest that a lot of people are hiding indoors (not sure whether cowering behind, or sitting on a sofa TBF). If people are spending a lot of time on social media and watching the news, rather than being out and about, I can see how they might think the world is a terrifying place at the moment, even though it clearly isn't.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Again some years ago I was out at sea with my brothers, when the gearbox on our boat suffered a failure. We called up the emergency services, and an RNLI boat came out to us, and towed us back to port. On the way back we were chatting to them (and of course thanking them for rescuing us) and they just said no problem, the fault in your boat could not have been predicted , and when we got out to you, you had all the safety gear, including comms, flares, and PPE. which made finding you easy.
They said the ones that really did pee them off (but they never would tell them that they did), were those who put themselves in harms way through stupidity, ignorance, and in some cases arrogance, and who then expected the people in the emergency services, to put `themselves' in harms way to compensate for their stupidity. I could see their point.

Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Monday 1st March 20:20

[Kawasicki]

Some rescuers are adrenaline junkies. The scarier the better. I chatted to some rescue helicopter pilots a few years back. Holy sh!t, complete banzai.

A good friend of mine flew urgent delivery of human organs. He said it was a gigantic buzz... regular death defying antics.

Where are these people going to get jobs if everyone acts in a prudent manner?