Who is going to continue to wear a mask after 21st June?
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I don’t like wearing the masks. I’ve got a big old nose and I find they never sit right and pull down on my nose. They also push exhaled air up through the gaps in the mask either side of the nose and into my eyes. I’ve had 2 (minor) eye infections since we had to start wearing masks, which may or may not be a direct result, but I’ve never had any eye issues before.
I always forget the bloody things anyway and end up rummaging around the footwells of the car and using an old one in the shops.
I only use them in shops, I can’t think of any other place I wear one to be honest. Mine will be straight in the bin the minute they’re not mandatory. Could be a while though. Some people seem to wear the things everywhere (even driving their own car - alone!!).
I’m usually pretty happy just to go with the flow but I found s myself getting really annoyed when I read somewhere that some “advisor” had raised the prospect of making runners wear masks. That
can fk right off. Clearly not someone who’s ever done a set of hill reps or a threshold run. I think I’d inhale the entire mask the way I’d be breathing by the end of some runs!!
I always forget the bloody things anyway and end up rummaging around the footwells of the car and using an old one in the shops.
I only use them in shops, I can’t think of any other place I wear one to be honest. Mine will be straight in the bin the minute they’re not mandatory. Could be a while though. Some people seem to wear the things everywhere (even driving their own car - alone!!).
I’m usually pretty happy just to go with the flow but I found s myself getting really annoyed when I read somewhere that some “advisor” had raised the prospect of making runners wear masks. That
can fk right off. Clearly not someone who’s ever done a set of hill reps or a threshold run. I think I’d inhale the entire mask the way I’d be breathing by the end of some runs!!TeaNoSugar said:
Some people seem to wear the things everywhere (even driving their own car - alone!!).
I can only assume that is to stop themselves licking the windows......... I am seeing more and more parents putting masks on their kids, yesterday one about three years old was walking along wearing a matching one with his sub optimally IQ'd mother. Outside.
Derek Smith said:
deeps said:
Masks likely do more harm than good. Speaking as a germophobe and prolific hand washer, I won't wear a mask.
I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
While your experiences and observations are valuable, I still think I'll follow what the scientists suggest. I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
There is no evidence to suggest, apart from anecdotes, that wearing masks does more harm than good.
I don't mean idiots on YouTube blowing their vape through one. I mean actual data that shows using them in a real world scenario reduces transmission?
Same question for "Covid Secure" locations. Can anything actually be Covid secure?
Jasandjules said:
TeaNoSugar said:
Some people seem to wear the things everywhere (even driving their own car - alone!!).
I can only assume that is to stop themselves licking the windows......... I am seeing more and more parents putting masks on their kids, yesterday one about three years old was walking along wearing a matching one with his sub optimally IQ'd mother. Outside.
To be honest, if you haven't worn a mask so far I suggest you ps off out of this thread, it's title clearly asks the question "who is going to continue to wear a mask". That's obviously not you and you can't contribute to this thread in line with what it's about.
Go start another thread discussing "masks, we ain't wearing them wot do you think about dat den"? Or something.
s off out of this thread, it's title clearly asks the question "who is going to continue to wear a mask". That's obviously not you and you can't contribute to this thread in line with what it's about. Go start another thread discussing "masks, we ain't wearing them wot do you think about dat den"? Or something.
yellowjack said:
wiggy001 said:
The Spruce Goose said:
i honestly don't see the issue here, the benefits massively outweigh the negatives. If people don't want to wear them, well in gave no issue with that, there are always people that don't like being told what to do.
You say that but it wasn’t that long ago the country was debating face coverings and hoodies. There was a reason that many were anti face coverings back then and those reasons still exist today. The simple fact is a large part of communication is based on facial expression, not just the sound of the words you hear, so there absolutely is a downside to masks.
survivalist said:
Derek Smith said:
deeps said:
Masks likely do more harm than good. Speaking as a germophobe and prolific hand washer, I won't wear a mask.
I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
While your experiences and observations are valuable, I still think I'll follow what the scientists suggest. I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
There is no evidence to suggest, apart from anecdotes, that wearing masks does more harm than good.
ATG said:
My take from that is how utterly ridiculous was the moral panic about people covering their faces. Oddly enough, unless there is a bloody good reason, people ought to be allowed to dress how they wish, and if others find that intimidating, that's their problem. No one has a general right to see someone else's face. If I choose to wear a bucket on my head, why on earth would anyone say I can't? Funnily enough I never heard anyone protesting about the traditional head gear of Christian nuns nor of brides wearing a veil. By all means tell me that you can't identify who I am from my photo ID because I've got a bucket on my head. No new bank account and no entry to the country for me unless I let you peek under the bucket. But a general ban on bucket wearing? Really??
In fairness, if you wanted to wear a bucket all the time I think you would get labelled as a nutter quite quickly, if lots of people decide to wear buckets because you wrote a book thousands of years ago and it mentions buckets then I'm going to view them with some skepticism too... Alucidnation said:
survivalist said:
Derek Smith said:
deeps said:
Masks likely do more harm than good. Speaking as a germophobe and prolific hand washer, I won't wear a mask.
I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
While your experiences and observations are valuable, I still think I'll follow what the scientists suggest. I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
There is no evidence to suggest, apart from anecdotes, that wearing masks does more harm than good.
CustardOnChips said:
Alucidnation said:
survivalist said:
Derek Smith said:
deeps said:
Masks likely do more harm than good. Speaking as a germophobe and prolific hand washer, I won't wear a mask.
I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
While your experiences and observations are valuable, I still think I'll follow what the scientists suggest. I think in perfect clinically clean conditions, single use disposable masks may have a benefit, but in the real world people use masks again and again, pull the mask from their pocket to go shopping, touch door handles, money, goods etc, fiddle with mask, then back into dirty pocket. Next day, out it comes again. I really think it's likely to spread germs more so than help in any way.
Last year I watched people in restaurants put their mask on to leave their table and use the loo, touch door handles, tap handles etc, then sit down and take mask off and back into the pocket ready to take out again for when they walk out.
How they can't see what they are actually doing is remarkable, potentially wrapping germs around their face, but from my observations, it's very common. They simply wear a mask as they have been instructed with no further thoughts about it.
There is no evidence to suggest, apart from anecdotes, that wearing masks does more harm than good.
Also, prior to the covid hysteria, surgeons mainly wore them when they were cutting people open. Not doing the daily shop.
They also replace all their PPE of contamination occurs. That means gowns, gloves etc, not just a mask.
A bit like wearing a parachute makes sense when jumping out of a plane. Less so when hopping off a 3ft wall.
survivalist said:
This.
Also, prior to the covid hysteria, surgeons mainly wore them when they were cutting people open. Not doing the daily shop.
They also replace all their PPE of contamination occurs. That means gowns, gloves etc, not just a mask.
A bit like wearing a parachute makes sense when jumping out of a plane. Less so when hopping off a 3ft wall.
Lets not forget that those masks are also properly disposed of as clinical waste. How many masks containing Covid germs have been disposed of correctly? Also, prior to the covid hysteria, surgeons mainly wore them when they were cutting people open. Not doing the daily shop.
They also replace all their PPE of contamination occurs. That means gowns, gloves etc, not just a mask.
A bit like wearing a parachute makes sense when jumping out of a plane. Less so when hopping off a 3ft wall.
CustardOnChips said:
Lets not forget that those masks are also properly disposed of as clinical waste. How many masks containing Covid germs have been disposed of correctly?
Doesn't really matter. The virus doesn't spread by contact and bins in a truck and then landfill aren't spreading events. It doesn't survive long outside of a host.Dr Murdoch said:
Why sterilise hands if it can't be spread by contact? Do SAGE need to know this?
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/fe...Also advice from day one for the likes of food packaging has been that there is no need to disinfect, etc. Such advice was posted in supermarkets.
It's not zero risk of transmission, and there is no harm in washing your hands...
vaud said:
Doesn't really matter. The virus doesn't spread by contact and bins in a truck and then landfill aren't spreading events. It doesn't survive long outside of a host.
Except where they don't go in bins. They go in pockets. Then get used over and over again. Even worse when peop are in and out of shops and put their mask on and off in between each one.
I'm out driving 6 days a week with work this last year. There are still so many people driving alone wearing masks. So many walking in the countryside , wearing masks. These idiots will not change until their great leader thanks them for their service to the world, and tells them that now they will be safe.
Seanrof said:
I'm out driving 6 days a week with work this last year. There are still so many people driving alone wearing masks. So many walking in the countryside , wearing masks. These idiots will not change until their great leader thanks them for their service to the world, and tells them that now they will be safe.
I pity and despise the subservient saps, in equal measure.Uggers said:
Show me a graph and point to me in big fk off arrows where the introduction of masks had an effect on the RoC or the volume of infections rates in any country.
Thanks.
Why would you expect to see that?k off arrows where the introduction of masks had an effect on the RoC or the volume of infections rates in any country. Thanks.
What is it about virology that makes you think there is ever any effect like that?
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