Missing Woman Sarah Everard

[Northernboy]

PurpleTurtle said:

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He might actually be mentally ill, or he may well be playing the system to get off with murder. Time will tell.

To a non-legal, non police person this side of things always seems a bit strange. Almost by definition someone who’ll kidnap, rape and kill a stranger doesn’t have a mind that sees the world the same as the rest of us do, and must be verging in, to use the colloquial term, “mental”.

Where’s the line that says that you’re just mental enough that it wasn’t really your fault?

[anonymous-user]

Northernboy said:

Where’s the line that says that you’re just mental enough that it wasn’t really your fault?

when you make a concerted effort to hide your crimes.

[Northernboy]

The Spruce Goose said:

when you make a concerted effort to hide your crimes.

But an awful lot of sane people do that too.

[Last Visit]

Guilty plea for murder being reported.

http://news.sky.com/story/sarah-everard-police-off...

[Gareth79]

A few new things we have learned?

- He used a hire car, booked and paid under his own details
- There is bus CCTV of his car parked on the pavement and two figures, assumed to be both of them
- He original story involved being threatened by eastern europeans after underpaying a prostitute (I wonder if there is probably a kernel of truth to this?)
- He wiped his phone 39 minutes before being arrested (perhaps there was some communication about his work situation etc that made him realise the game was up?)

Edited by Gareth79 on Friday 9th July 12:06

[mick987]

Gareth79 said:

A few new things we have learned?


- He original story involved being threatened by eastern europeans after underpaying a prostitute (I wonder if there is probably a kernel of truth to this?)

What has that got to do with him going out a raping and murdering an innocent young lady?. At the end of the day I think he is a bully who thought he could do what he wanted and get away with it and now hopefully he will die in prison.

[rjfp1962]

Whatever sentence this piece of scum gets it won't be enough - He won't go through the fear, pain and torture of which he inflicted on this young lady... He may find some "justice" inside though, unless he's isolated and protected which shouldn't happen.....

[Gareth79]

mick987 said:

Gareth79 said:

A few new things we have learned?


- He original story involved being threatened by eastern europeans after underpaying a prostitute (I wonder if there is probably a kernel of truth to this?)

What has that got to do with him going out a raping and murdering an innocent young lady?. At the end of the day I think he is a bully who thought he could do what he wanted and get away with it and now hopefully he will die in prison.

The kernel of truth is that perhaps he did use prostitutes, underpaid one and was threatened by eastern europeans recently, and it came to mind when concocting a story. And what does it have to do with him doing his crime? A married police officer using trafficked prostitutes run by eastern european gangs would go perfectly with the behaviour of somebody who then goes out and murders a seemingly random person.

Edited by Gareth79 on Friday 9th July 12:17

[PurpleTurtle]

I imagine his lawyer has said "the number of aspects to the planning of this, a jury is never going to believe it was diminished responsibility, you are going away for a very long time because of a stack of evidence against you. Plead guilty, it's the best you can hope for in determining your minimum term"

Let's hope that minimum term is at least 30 years. I don't think this will have been his first crime.

[mick987]

Gareth79 said:

The kernel of truth is that perhaps he did use prostitutes, underpaid one and was threatened by eastern europeans recently, and it came to mind when concocting a story. And what does it have to do with him doing his crime? A married police officer using trafficked prostitutes run by eastern european gangs would go perfectly with the behaviour of somebody who then goes out and murders a seemingly random person.

Edited by Gareth79 on Friday 9th July 12:17

He claimed he was forced to kidnap her after underpaying for a prostitute, complete bullst and anybody who thinks there is a kernel of truth to that wants to have a long hard look at themselves.

[Gareth79]

mick987 said:

Gareth79 said:

The kernel of truth is that perhaps he did use prostitutes, underpaid one and was threatened by eastern europeans recently, and it came to mind when concocting a story. And what does it have to do with him doing his crime? A married police officer using trafficked prostitutes run by eastern european gangs would go perfectly with the behaviour of somebody who then goes out and murders a seemingly random person.

Edited by Gareth79 on Friday 9th July 12:17

He claimed he was forced to kidnap her after underpaying for a prostitute, complete bullst and anybody who thinks there is a kernel of truth to that wants to have a long hard look at themselves.

You obviously didn't read my reply, but I will spend the rest of the day looking at myself if it will make you happy.

[liner33]

Where did all this about prostitutes and Eastern Europeans come from ?

[mick987]

liner33 said:

Where did all this about prostitutes and Eastern Europeans come from ?

In one of the first police interviews Couzens claimed that was why he killed the lady, he soon stopped claiming that when nobody believed him and never mentioned it again.

[liner33]

mick987 said:

In one of the first police interviews Couzens claimed that was why he killed the lady, he soon stopped claiming that when nobody believed him and never mentioned it again.

Were these interviews published then ?

[AW111]

mick987 said:

liner33 said:

Where did all this about prostitutes and Eastern Europeans come from ?

In one of the first police interviews Couzens claimed that was why he killed the lady, he soon stopped claiming that when nobody believed him and never mentioned it again.

I think he claimed he handed her over to them, and "they" must have killed her.

[mick987]

liner33 said:

Were these interviews published then ?

They have been reported in the press

www.scotsman.com/news/crime/sarah-everard-metropol...

[liner33]

mick987 said:

liner33 said:

Were these interviews published then ?

They have been reported in the press

www.scotsman.com/news/crime/sarah-everard-metropol...

Cheers

[Durzel]

AW111 said:

mick987 said:

liner33 said:

Where did all this about prostitutes and Eastern Europeans come from ?

In one of the first police interviews Couzens claimed that was why he killed the lady, he soon stopped claiming that when nobody believed him and never mentioned it again.

I think he claimed he handed her over to them, and "they" must have killed her.

Yeah that’s his original story, where he only admitted he was responsible for her death, but didn’t kill her himself.

Now that he’s finally admitted directly killing her that story is one of note because it’s what he originally came up with.

I’m inclined to believe the story is completely made up, by someone who would know about those kinds of criminal circles either directly or from colleagues.

[TheJimi]

You'd have thought that an experienced cop, of all people, would have had at least a fighting chance of getting away with murder.

I mean, reading what evidence has been reported so far, it's almost as if he wanted to get caught for it.

[Mastodon2]

I'm still waiting to see what this has to do with the "culture of steroid abuse in the police", as another poster claimed a few pages back.