No evidence the UK is institutionally racist

No evidence the UK is institutionally racist

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jimbobs

433 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Unknown_User said:
As previously posted.

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15025

There were large increases over the 2000s but spending per pupil has fallen since 2010–11.
Save your breath mate - if someone’s willing to believe that feminism is a giant conspiracy to create a majority of welfare dependent lefties then they’re unlikely to be convinced by, like, actual facts and stuff…

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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jimbobs said:
Unknown_User said:
As previously posted.

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15025

There were large increases over the 2000s but spending per pupil has fallen since 2010–11.
Save your breath mate - if someone’s willing to believe that feminism is a giant conspiracy to create a majority of welfare dependent lefties then they’re unlikely to be convinced by, like, actual facts and stuff…
Talking of actual facts and stuff..............you are aware that under the his watch, Darling had fked things up so badly that by 2010 that he had forecast that the UK would need austerity so severe that would take "two parliamentary terms of pain" i.e. 2010 to 2018 to get things back in order. Labour advocates often mention the 10 years of Tory austerity that it took to bring Labour's legacy of deficit profligacy under control whilst being wilfully ignorant of the fact that Labour were planning austerity measures that were every bit as severe as the Torys'.

You knew all about Darling's forecasts in 2010 right? That he was expecting it take a full decade of austerity misery to get things back on track? You knew that bearing in mind that you're convinced by actual facts and and stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/mar/25/a...


Edited by Crackie on Tuesday 22 June 16:59

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

92 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Crackie said:
jimbobs said:
Unknown_User said:
As previously posted.

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/15025

There were large increases over the 2000s but spending per pupil has fallen since 2010–11.
Save your breath mate - if someone’s willing to believe that feminism is a giant conspiracy to create a majority of welfare dependent lefties then they’re unlikely to be convinced by, like, actual facts and stuff…
Talking of actual facts and stuff..............you are aware that under the his watch, Darling had fked things up so badly that by 2010 that he had forecast that the UK would need austerity so severe that would take "two parliamentary terms of pain" i.e. 2010 to 2018 to get things back in order. Labour advocates often mention the 10 years of Tory austerity that it took to bring Labour's legacy of deficit profligacy under control whilst being wilfully ignorant of the fact that Labour were planning austerity measures that were every bit as severe as the Torys'.

You knew all about Darling's forecasts in 2010 right? That he was expecting it take a full decade of austerity misery to get things back on track? You knew that bearing in mind that you're convinced by actual facts and and stuff.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/mar/25/a...


Edited by Crackie on Tuesday 22 June 16:59
So hang on a minute…

Labour messed things up so the tories decided to reduce funding to make things better? And those up there ^^^ saying there was no austerity are wrong and you are right!

Hurrah the tories….. hurrah The Nasty Party….. boo Labour (that nobody was talking about).

We’re most fortunate to have you here Crackie, most fortunate indeed!!!

bitchstewie

51,106 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Looks like there's a few concerns around the language used.

Watchdog cited in education report condemns its ‘awful’ language

Trackdayer

1,090 posts

41 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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ZedLeg said:
Where's the overpopulation coming from then?
More households following the sad demise of the nuclear family.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Drumroll said:
So being a single parent and poor is a life choice?
In some cases it is, in some cases it isn’t. If you have a child at sixteen years old with a casual boyfriend then you’re pretty much choosing both.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Drumroll said:
What a load of idealistic rubbish.

How are you going to raise confident, ambitious, children when you live in a one bedroom flat that is falling to pieces and despite working jobs that are low paid you still can't afford to move. if you allow your kids to go out to play the only play area is full of gang members etc.
It’s difficult, which is why it’s generally a good idea to try to get established in your career, maybe buy your own home, and get some savings behind you before having children.

This is why a lot of professional couples have children later, they understand that it’s generally a good idea.

You can’t remove parental choice and responsibility from the equation when it comes to life outcomes.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Unknown_User said:
So tell me Einstein, how does a nurse working at the Chelsea & Kensington, St Thomas or St Barts hospital afford a crappy flat near their place of work? You know, without you or me paying for it?
They don’t need a flat near their work, there’s a system of buses and of underground trains in London, which millions of people use to get to and from work each day.

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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ZedLeg said:
Of course, it's all those immigrants coming over and snapping up all the £10mil houses in London. Although if you count middle eastern royal families and Russian oligarchs as immigrants I guess you're not wrong laugh
My boss is an immigrant. He has a £10m house.

My wife’s an immigrant too actually. None of her houses is worth £10m though.

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Northernboy said:
Unknown_User said:
So tell me Einstein, how does a nurse working at the Chelsea & Kensington, St Thomas or St Barts hospital afford a crappy flat near their place of work? You know, without you or me paying for it?
They don’t need a flat near their work, there’s a system of buses and of underground trains in London, which millions of people use to get to and from work each day.
Alternatively, move, the NHS isn't just London we actually have hospitals in other parts of the country, perhaps even somewhere where it is cheaper to live.

If you live in London accept the compromises. Us in the sticks do

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Northernboy said:
ZedLeg said:
Of course, it's all those immigrants coming over and snapping up all the £10mil houses in London. Although if you count middle eastern royal families and Russian oligarchs as immigrants I guess you're not wrong laugh
My boss is an immigrant. He has a £10m house.

My wife’s an immigrant too actually. None of her houses is worth £10m though.
Good for them.

You stalking me now?

Northernboy

12,642 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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voyds9 said:
Alternatively, move, the NHS isn't just London we actually have hospitals in other parts of the country, perhaps even somewhere where it is cheaper to live.

If you live in London accept the compromises. Us in the sticks do
Those of us in banking do too. Even if you’re on exceptionally good money you’ll likely end up commuting.

The idea that anyone should expect a nice flat a short stroll from their job in Chelsea just isn’t a sensible one.

Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Unknown_User said:
jimbobs said:
The schools report is just another example of this government blaming someone else for its own failings.

The failures in education are caused by years of chronic underfunding as a result of Tory austerity. This hits the poor (and thus, the white working class poor) hardest. Sadly, Boris and his chums would rather blame lefty teachers for the problem than own up to their own failings.
yes

Great post
Do you think the failures in the education system would have been avoided had the Tories had not been in power? jimbob's post and your "Great post" response suggests you think they would have been. You know that public sector spending cuts would have happened irrespective of whether Tories, Lib/Dems or labour were in power.

Do you think that chronic education system underfunding would have been likely if Labour had been in power instead? If not, and bearing in mind Alistair Darling has admitted that Labour would have introduced similar levels of austerity to the coalition, which public sectors do you think Labour would/should have chronically underfunded instead?


Unknown_User

7,150 posts

92 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Crackie said:
Unknown_User said:
jimbobs said:
The schools report is just another example of this government blaming someone else for its own failings.

The failures in education are caused by years of chronic underfunding as a result of Tory austerity. This hits the poor (and thus, the white working class poor) hardest. Sadly, Boris and his chums would rather blame lefty teachers for the problem than own up to their own failings.
yes

Great post
Do you think the failures in the education system would have been avoided had the Tories had not been in power? jimbob's post and your "Great post" response suggests you think they would have been. You know that public sector spending cuts would have happened irrespective of whether Tories, Lib/Dems or labour were in power.

Do you think that chronic education system underfunding would have been likely if Labour had been in power instead? If not, and bearing in mind Alistair Darling has admitted that Labour would have introduced similar levels of austerity to the coalition, which public sectors do you think Labour would/should have chronically underfunded instead?
The reality is, the tories were in power, this is an irrefutable fact, regardless of your continued but... but... but Labour insistence. If we parrot your (frankly ludicrous) post we could start to blame the tories for Blairs illegal Iraq war...!!!


Crackie

6,386 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Unknown_User said:
The reality is, the tories were in power, this is an irrefutable fact, regardless of your continued but... but... but Labour insistence.
The Tories were indeed in power and so were the Lib Dems for a period. Where do you place the Lib Dems contribution in all of this, are you Grrr Lib/Dems too?

Fortunately the Labour administration were given the boot in 2010 before they could do any more damage; a Lib-Dem / Tory coalition and then the Tories have been in power since. Labour's profligate spending following the GFC contributed to all the major parties, including Labour, deciding that austerity measures were necessary in 2010. Nothing wrong, in my eyes, with reminding you of the facts when someone posts some daft nonsense about Tory austerity whilst failing to fully acknowledge Labour's damaging role in the country's immediate financial history and also failing to accept that Labour, by their own admission, were planning similar austerity cuts.

Grrrrr Nasty Party.

Trackdayer

1,090 posts

41 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Crackie said:
The Tories were indeed in power and so were the Lib Dems for a period. Where do you place the Lib Dems contribution in all of this, are you Grrr Lib/Dems too?

Fortunately the Labour administration were given the boot in 2010 before they could do any more damage; a Lib-Dem / Tory coalition and then the Tories have been in power since. Labour's profligate spending following the GFC contributed to all the major parties, including Labour, deciding that austerity measures were necessary in 2010. Nothing wrong, in my eyes, with reminding you of the facts when someone posts some daft nonsense about Tory austerity whilst failing to fully acknowledge Labour's damaging role in the country's immediate financial history and also failing to accept that Labour, by their own admission, were planning similar austerity cuts.

Grrrrr Nasty Party.
Don't rise to it Crackie. He's a troll.