Can I ignore the painted left lane arrow roundabout approach

Can I ignore the painted left lane arrow roundabout approach

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deeen

6,079 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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It's dangerous, because the vehicle in the correct lane will not be expecting someone on the inside. As for legality, it might be considered dwdca, maybe one of our resident bib could confirm / refute this.

Yuxi

648 posts

189 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Joey! I like it

Colonel Cupcake

1,070 posts

45 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Just stick to the rules. That way there will be fewer accidents.

surveyor

17,811 posts

184 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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It’s a dick move.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

113 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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dick move, asis ignoring arrows in general. im sure some pleb will come along and say they are advisory but that wont help you if there is an accident as a result of you ignoring the road markings.

however loads of people ignore them just like every other aspect of the highway code and rta which many drivers seem to think are optional or dont apply to them.

Colonel Cupcake

1,070 posts

45 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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CoolHands said:
deeen said:
It's dangerous, because the vehicle in the correct lane will not be expecting someone on the inside. As for legality, it might be considered dwdca, maybe one of our resident bib could confirm / refute this.
But in the approach from the right of the pic it is exactly the same except the floor painted arrow.

In my example the driver on the right will see me on his left as we will both be at the entrance to the roundabout together. We both stay in lane (me outer lane him inner lane) and go to our 2nd exit. So I don’t think it is dangerous unless they are incompetent?
You assume that he will see you. The driver on the right should be looking right to see when it is safe to go.

Even if they do see you, why would they expect a driver in the left hand lane that is marked as left turn only to make a right turn?

Even on the one approach that apparently allows the move you describe, it's clear from the overhead picture that that rarely happens.

Just stick to the rules. That way there will be fewer accidents.

deeen

6,079 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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CoolHands said:
deeen said:
It's dangerous, because the vehicle in the correct lane will not be expecting someone on the inside. As for legality, it might be considered dwdca, maybe one of our resident bib could confirm / refute this.
But in the approach from the right of the pic it is exactly the same except the floor painted arrow.

In my example the driver on the right will see me on his left as we will both be at the entrance to the roundabout together. We both stay in lane (me outer lane him inner lane) and go to our 2nd exit. So I don’t think it is dangerous unless they are incompetent?
Yes they will see you, in the "turning left" lane... how will they know you are not turning left? The correct lane for him is on the left after the first exit, unless he is doing 180 round the roundabout. It looks like there's only 1 lane on the 2nd exit, so if the vehicle in the correct lane moves to take it, where are you going to go? If you cause a collision, I would guess that the "incompetent driver" would be considered to be the one who was in the wrong lane... sometimes road safety means waiting in the correct lane. Genuinley inetrested to hear a bib view on this, however.

Edited by deeen on Sunday 20th June 12:27

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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No. Just use the correct lane!

vonhosen

40,230 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Mandatory marking? No.
Does ignoring amount to Careless/Inconsiderate driving? Could.
Consideration in assessing liability if a collision? Yep.

deeen

6,079 posts

245 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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CoolHands said:
Just for clarity the 2nd exit (ie where my red arrow goes) is 2 lane and continues as 2 lanes.
Looks like 1 in the photo, unless the white car is straddling 2 lanes? Anyway VH (above) is bib (I think), so there's your answer.

vonhosen

40,230 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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CoolHands said:
Just for clarity the 2nd exit (ie where my red arrow goes) is 2 lane and continues as 2 lanes.
Makes no difference to what I said above.

gts.981

136 posts

45 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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CoolHands said:
2 lanes leading to roundabout. Are we allowed to ignore the painted one on the ground and when you get to the roundabout take the 2nd exit if you want? It looks more ok from the overhead shot than it appears on the ground. But sometimes traffic backs up on the right lane for no reason other than joey at the front. I wonder if I commit any offence if I just go in the left lane and around. All 3 exits are 2 lane.





Edited by CoolHands on Sunday 20th June 11:54
IF this is a serious question then you really shouldn’t be driving. Go get some driving lessons.

Kyodo

728 posts

124 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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I absolutely wouldn't do that at that island. It's a sure fire way of causing an accident. Always consider what other driver's expect of you, we all have a responsibility to each other.

InitialDave

11,881 posts

119 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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No, good way to get into an accident.

The dirt and tyre marks in the aerial view clearly show that most people use the roundabout as the arrows instruct.

CoreyDog

714 posts

90 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Really wouldn't risk it. You have a high chance of being side swiped at the exit if someone doesn't do an adequate blind spot check. No way would I put that much faith in another driver.

Guarenteed you'll spend a hell of alot more time dealing with the consequences of that accident than you ever would being sat waiting to turn from the correct and safest lane.

Sebring440

1,992 posts

96 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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gts.981 said:
IF this is a serious question then you really shouldn’t be driving. Go get some driving lessons.
^^^^ This.

And obvious road rage potential. I honestly can't believe the OP has asked such a stupid question.

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Does the OP ride a scooter?

InitialDave

11,881 posts

119 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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Shaw Tarse said:
Does the OP ride a scooter?
Not for long if he does stuff like this.

SmoothCriminal

5,053 posts

199 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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CoolHands said:
Just for clarity the 2nd exit (ie where my red arrow goes) is 2 lane and continues as 2 lanes.
Yes and when the car who you are undertaking merges into the nearside lane which they're perfectly entitled to do you will be on here bleating about how the other party is 100% at fault.

Jediworrier

434 posts

188 months

Sunday 20th June 2021
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I have a letter from Sussex Police advising me to do just that on a rundabout near me though I think it was arse covering due to a retard cop trying to do this and nearly causing an accident then accusing me of cutting them up before they 'let me off' and drove away.