RE: 2021 Audi RS3 gets drift mode, will do 180mph

RE: 2021 Audi RS3 gets drift mode, will do 180mph

Tuesday 22nd June 2021

2021 Audi RS3 gets drift mode, will do 180mph

Thought you knew what to expect from a 400hp Audi hatchback? Think again



Precious little has changed in the make-up of an Audi RS3 over the past decade. Some might reasonably argue nothing needed to. They remain, after all, very popular cars, with even the earliest ones still commanding £20k. It seems the British buying public can't get enough of an A3 with that turbocharged inline five-pot upfront and a broader, stiffer Quattro chassis to make the most of it.

This time around though, Audi is doing things a little differently. The engine remains (of course) and plenty of the trademark RS aesthetic is visible even through the disguise, but this RS3 promises to be the most rewarding one yet to drive. Which the cynical might say wouldn't be hard - but this isn't just going to be better by a little bit. Its maker claims the new RS3 "represents the epitome of unadulterated driving dynamics."

To back up that grand claim, Audi has equipped its latest A3 flagship with an RS Torque Splitter, as smokily evidenced in the pictures. Essentially it's the torque vectoring back axle utilised so successfully by the new Golf R, with clutches on the rear drive shafts to direct torque either side. Though the hardware is identical, Audi has recalibrated the Torque Splitter software for this application, ensuring "optimal stability and maximum agility" in fast driving.



Plus, of course, it'll do big skids. Which is probably not something we ever expected of an RS3. But here is a transverse-engined Audi that can send all of the engine power to just one of the rear wheels, for controlled drifts on closed roads. Or being a lout on the big Tesco roundabout. Using the RS Torque Rear drive mode Audi has configured a "highly rear-heavy distribution of the rear [which] leads to oversteering behaviour". In an Audi RS3, the car renowned for a marked aversion to any apex (at least in its earliest guise), that's quite the promise.

There'll be plenty of motive force to agitate that axle, too; if the Torque Splitter isn't typical Audi fare, then loads of horsepower is a guarantee. Once again powered by the 2.5-litre, five-cylinder turbo - and without any electrical assistance - this RS3 is actually no more powerful than before at 400hp, indicating that we may just have reached the ceiling for these mega hatches. It is still faster, though, with a tad more torque (now 369lb ft, from 354 before) all the way from 2,250-5,600rpm and a "sportier gear ratio spread", the RS3 should reach 62mph in just 3.8 seconds, down from 4.1. There are three different top speeds, too, depending on how much money you hand over. As standard the maximum 155mph, optionally it's 174mph, and with the RS Dynamic package and ceramic brakes, buyers will have a 180mph RS3 on their hands. Which is fast even by fast Audi standards. The seven-speed DSG has seen before is once again standard, with "lightning-fast starts and heart pounding acceleration."

To harness that performance, and to make the RS3 rewarding in all driving up to and including lurid oversteer, the chassis has been significantly revised over the standard car. Even over an S3, in fact. This car sits 25mm lower than a regular A3, with a "markedly stiff" passive spring and damper set up, albeit with a valve system in the damper that assists compression and rebound; the subframes, roll bars and lower wishbones are bespoke to this car, with one more degree of negative camber than standard as well. RS-specific progressive steering is also fitted.



Standard drive modes are Efficiency, Auto, Dynamic, RS Performance and RS Torque Rear, with everything from front axle priority for the power to "neither understeer nor oversteer" in Auto to the rear-biased RS modes. Don't forget, too, that all of the dynamic technology will be marshalled by the Vehicle Dynamics Manager - or mVDC, modular vehicle dynamics controller, in Audi speak - that's proven so effective in the Golf GTI and R at extracting maximum performance. Audi says the system further improves agility for the RS3, and it'll be fascinating to see what can be achieved with 400hp doing the pushing and pulling.

The optional extras so far confirmed for the RS3 signal a more focused remit for this car than ever before, including RS sports suspension plus with adaptive dampers (including a Nordschleife-specific setting) and Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R tyres. Might this finally be the RS3 that really appeals to a keen driver as well as the Audi faithful?

Though the full reveal is still a month away, these new technical details will surely give considerable cause for encouragement regarding the latest model. The concept has always been easy to admire - epic powertrain, all-weather ability, Audi quality - even if the execution hasn't ever captivated the enthusiast audience. Fingers crossed this is third time lucky for the RS3.










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cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

30,534 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Count me in for sure! smokin

Terminator X

15,061 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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If it really is 400hp then there is not enough clear air between it and the fking rapid new Golf R imho. Audi do seem to have shot the RS3 in the foot by giving the RS4 "just" 450hp imho.

TX.

Augustus Windsock

3,366 posts

155 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Soon to be seen pursuing/being pursued on ‘Police Interceptors’
For that reason alone, I’ll pass

jl4069

195 posts

102 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Most likely a yet bigger, heavier and less capable Golf r.

blue al

944 posts

159 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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How do all these scoops pass front pedestrian crash tests ?
Any bigger and you would be able to fit a whole person in one.

Spec sounds intriguing from drivers perspective and now I would like to buy or at lest test drive one it’s become too ugly and no doubt very expensive.


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Perfect for ham fisted attempts at drifting leaving car meets, straight into a central reservation for likes on YouTube.

GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I don’t know why I cringe at use of the word “skids”. The correct word is surely “drifts”. Maybe it’s just me.

This will surely be VERY expensive, I wonder if it’ll justify the likely big premium over the R.

rodericb

6,736 posts

126 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Perfect for ham fisted attempts at drifting leaving car meets, straight into a central reservation for likes on YouTube.
yeah I am looking forward to seeing some videos on youtube of 2021 RS3's orbiting roundabouts with a throng of people on the edges of the road. Old style rally is back baby!

ducnick

1,781 posts

243 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I had always assumed these were just badge engineered golf/seat/Skoda but it sounds like they use a 5 cylinder instead of the 4 cylinder used in the rest of the range. Now I understand the reason folks go for the Audi version over the others.

ddom

6,657 posts

48 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Just the thing for Tesco car park.

Wills2

22,799 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Terminator X said:
If it really is 400hp then there is not enough clear air between it and the fking rapid new Golf R imho. Audi do seem to have shot the RS3 in the foot by giving the RS4 "just" 450hp imho.

TX.
It's got 25% more power than the golf R? When the M2 was launched it only had 9% more than the 240i and the M2C only had had 17% more.









cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

30,534 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I love the engine in these, and I do appreciate that Audi are at least trying to make their cars that little bit more interesting to drive now. The Audi TTS I had a few years ago was really lacking in the driving involvement department I thought(it also understeered for England), a lovely car overall though.

glennjamin

350 posts

63 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Audi spent millions trying to turn Joe average into a accomplished driver only to have it all over ruled by a button. Look out for the donnuts coming to a carpark near you. Would like to see the claim form for when it goes horribly wrong. After the son takes his Dad's car out for a try....

Court_S

12,929 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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That’s going to be pretty bloody quick but my god it’ll cost. You can spend big on a Golf R with options.

whp1983

1,171 posts

139 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Comparisons to a golf R are poor, the S3 is the R relation….. the engine in this alone is worth the premium. Whether or not you like how they drive is another matter…



urquattroGus

1,847 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Nice, but would still rather have a RWD super saloon.

Giulia Quad can be bought for £60k new after discount for example.

loudlashadjuster

5,120 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Like the firing order graphics. Hope they are a no-cost delete option though.

J4CKO

41,530 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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Wills2 said:
Terminator X said:
If it really is 400hp then there is not enough clear air between it and the fking rapid new Golf R imho. Audi do seem to have shot the RS3 in the foot by giving the RS4 "just" 450hp imho.

TX.
It's got 25% more power than the golf R? When the M2 was launched it only had 9% more than the 240i and the M2C only had had 17% more.







Suppose it depends if you just look at power and performance figures when buying a car. These are really nice, even the normal S3 is rapid but they just leave me a bit cold being so devastatingly effective and generally only being auto. I think the USP of being super quick with launch control and lighting fast changes has been made a bit redundant when EV's are doing it twice as fast nowadays.

The 5 cylinder engine does lift everything up a few notches, a car I think is suspiciously cheap and was on my list was the MK2 TTRS with a manual gearbox, can get one from 13k up, with the sweet spot at maybe 15/16. I think the TT bit puts a lot off but I quite like it and probably less likely to attract folk to try and get the keys at night.

JmatthewB

912 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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GTEYE said:
I don’t know why I cringe at use of the word “skids”. The correct word is surely “drifts”. Maybe it’s just me.
Me too.

To me skid is what you do on a push bike as a child when you brake hard with the rear brake.


ajap1979

8,014 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2021
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I drove an RS3 last year and I'll be honest, I wasn't that impressed. It was a late car, so will have had a PPF. The engine was undoubtedly nice, but I found it barely audible, and that was the aspect I was hoping/expecting to enjoy the most. Hopefully Audi will have made the most of it this time, but it needs to sound better than the most recent car IMO.