CV19 - Cure worse than the disease? (Vol 13)
Discussion
re: that earlier link posted to 'emergency broadcast' testing in the UK:
https://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/19389702.governme...
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210611/fema-a...
Although it may be a regular thing so perhaps 'no biggie':
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210318/nation...
https://www.burytimes.co.uk/news/19389702.governme...
Bury Times said:
When the scheme launches in summer you will get an emergency alert for the following reasons (aside from testing purposes):
severe flooding
fires
explosions
terrorist incidents
public health emergencies
Emergency alerts will only be sent by:
the emergency services
government departments, agencies and public bodies that deal with emergencies
... it's interesting to note that FEMA in the US are also doing the same:severe flooding
fires
explosions
terrorist incidents
public health emergencies
Emergency alerts will only be sent by:
the emergency services
government departments, agencies and public bodies that deal with emergencies
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210611/fema-a...
Although it may be a regular thing so perhaps 'no biggie':
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210318/nation...
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
If you can catch this after you've been jabbed, why risk the jab in the first place?It's like the lockdowns. They work so well we need another one.
Nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.
RSTurboPaul said:
... it's interesting to note that FEMA in the US are also doing the same:
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210611/fema-a...
Although it may be a regular thing so perhaps 'no biggie':
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210318/nation...
We have been getting messages from “alert rcb” in Poland for the last 5 years with weather warnings etc. Obviously the current government abused it to remind people to vote for them too. I don’t think it’s a very recent technology https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210611/fema-a...
Although it may be a regular thing so perhaps 'no biggie':
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210318/nation...
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Yet they havent had a death since June the 13th I didn't know Dutch politicians were on this thread? 
https://twitter.com/LTRN8ENDING/status/14010754436...
https://twitter.com/LTRN8ENDING/status/14010754436...
MEC said:
Nickgnome said:
I am currently here in the UK , I come and go every few months as my business dictates along with Italy and France.
Perhaps you may wish to brush up on your knowledge of one of the most technologically advanced countries of the Eu.
So you're one of those roving Super Spreaders?Perhaps you may wish to brush up on your knowledge of one of the most technologically advanced countries of the Eu.
k off on a jolly!grumbledoak said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
If you can catch this after you've been jabbed, why risk the jab in the first place?It's like the lockdowns. They work so well we need another one.
Nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.
(archived version with full text: http://web.archive.org/web/20210622155418/https://... )
Telegraph said:
Nearly a third of the new cases in the past week have been vaccinated individuals, and many of the new infections are with the delta variant.
Hezi Levi, the health ministry director-general, told Israel's Channel 12 on Monday that most of the new cases among vaccinated persons are mild, but called on parents to vaccinate their teenage children.
A third of infections are in the vaccinated?Hezi Levi, the health ministry director-general, told Israel's Channel 12 on Monday that most of the new cases among vaccinated persons are mild, but called on parents to vaccinate their teenage children.
So why bother?
Most of the new cases amongst vaccinated are mild?
So what's the point of worrying about it?
Logic has exited stage left several months ago.
J210 said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Yet they havent had a death since June the 13th CDB1983 said:
RSTurboPaul said:
... it's interesting to note that FEMA in the US are also doing the same:
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210611/fema-a...
Although it may be a regular thing so perhaps 'no biggie':
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210318/nation...
We have been getting messages from “alert rcb” in Poland for the last 5 years with weather warnings etc. Obviously the current government abused it to remind people to vote for them too. I don’t think it’s a very recent technology https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210611/fema-a...
Although it may be a regular thing so perhaps 'no biggie':
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210318/nation...
Bit of an update:
1. Cases per 100k tests are starting to level off. Deaths have not risen anywhere near as quickly as cases, even allowing for a 2 week lag. As a result, the Case Fatality Rate is low. Holding at an average of 0.19% for the first week of June:
2. Similarly, although there is a rise in admissions, it is much slower than cases, even allowing for a 1 week lag. The Case Admissions Rate is now just over 2%.
3. This shows cases, admissions and deaths overlaid. It's clear that the relationship between these metrics has changed and cases are leading to less serious outcomes
4. This shows the growth rate in the 7 day rolling total of cases and admissions. Case growth began to slow on the 7th June, but the slowdown has stalled in recent days. I think its a bit early to say the same about admissions as the data is quite laggy.
1. Cases per 100k tests are starting to level off. Deaths have not risen anywhere near as quickly as cases, even allowing for a 2 week lag. As a result, the Case Fatality Rate is low. Holding at an average of 0.19% for the first week of June:
2. Similarly, although there is a rise in admissions, it is much slower than cases, even allowing for a 1 week lag. The Case Admissions Rate is now just over 2%.
3. This shows cases, admissions and deaths overlaid. It's clear that the relationship between these metrics has changed and cases are leading to less serious outcomes
4. This shows the growth rate in the 7 day rolling total of cases and admissions. Case growth began to slow on the 7th June, but the slowdown has stalled in recent days. I think its a bit early to say the same about admissions as the data is quite laggy.
Not sure if repost?
Google funded virus research carried out by Wuhan-linked scientist Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance for over a decade.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9712997/G...
Google funded virus research carried out by Wuhan-linked scientist Peter Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance for over a decade.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9712997/G...
dave_s13 said:
J210 said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Yet they havent had a death since June the 13th clicky version: http://web.archive.org/web/20210622155418/https://...
Thanks Elysium for the graphs.
I had looked at the numbers in hospital as what should be the only measure that matters and my rough and ready analysis was that in the last month, the numbers haven’t doubled yet.
Today, they were saying 171 admissions although the numbers in hospital went up by 11.
I had looked at the numbers in hospital as what should be the only measure that matters and my rough and ready analysis was that in the last month, the numbers haven’t doubled yet.
Today, they were saying 171 admissions although the numbers in hospital went up by 11.
I have finally come to the conclusion that we are going to end up with vaccine passports and that the vast majority of people down to 16 and 17 year olds are going to have these vaccines. In fact I think we will eventually vaccinate children.
I still think its completely unnecessary to vaccinate young people, but we've gone so far over the edge that we simply cannot tolerate seeing large numbers of cases. We need to stop testing and the only way thats going to happen is near universal vaccination.
The USA is already well on the way and I would be amazed if we did not follow.
I feel desperately sorry for the few people who will be damaged by the vaccines, but society seems to have pretty much decided not to give a damn.
We are an ugly species when our back is against the wall.
I still think its completely unnecessary to vaccinate young people, but we've gone so far over the edge that we simply cannot tolerate seeing large numbers of cases. We need to stop testing and the only way thats going to happen is near universal vaccination.
The USA is already well on the way and I would be amazed if we did not follow.
I feel desperately sorry for the few people who will be damaged by the vaccines, but society seems to have pretty much decided not to give a damn.
We are an ugly species when our back is against the wall.
RSTurboPaul said:
dave_s13 said:
J210 said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Yet they havent had a death since June the 13th clicky version: http://web.archive.org/web/20210622155418/https://...
Have a watch of this and see what you think of what he says.
https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/data-science/an-open-...
Makes plausible points in my opinion
https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/data-science/an-open-...
Makes plausible points in my opinion
Boringvolvodriver said:
Thanks Elysium for the graphs.
I had looked at the numbers in hospital as what should be the only measure that matters and my rough and ready analysis was that in the last month, the numbers haven’t doubled yet.
Today, they were saying 171 admissions although the numbers in hospital went up by 11.
There are a lot of people going to A&E now for absolute mundane stuff because essentially GPs are closed, so I would hazard a guess there will be a number of admissions of people testing positive on arrival for something else, and general hysteria which is taking place. That also bears out in that discharges are extremely high, people are not staying in hospital for along at all.I had looked at the numbers in hospital as what should be the only measure that matters and my rough and ready analysis was that in the last month, the numbers haven’t doubled yet.
Today, they were saying 171 admissions although the numbers in hospital went up by 11.
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