Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 3)

[Scrump]

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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[B'stard Child]

Oh good another fresh start to talk about stuff that happened back in 2016 while occasionally being interupted by current news from either 10%

Wonder how many volumes this thread will run too before people move on?

[Earthdweller]

Ask not the journey be easy, ask instead that it be worth it

JFK

[Tuna]

Earthdweller said:

Ask not the journey be easy, ask instead that it be worth it

JFK

Aye, and there lies the rub.

Shakespeare

[DeejRC]

Imagine the fun William would have writing about this stuff…

[Mandat]

DeejRC said:

Imagine the fun William would have writing about this stuff…

To B(rexit), or not to B(rexit)? That is the question.

[Crackie]

Mandat said:

DeejRC said:

Imagine the fun William would have writing about this stuff…

To B(rexit), or not to B(rexit)? That is the question.

[skwdenyer]

B'stard Child said:

Oh good another fresh start to talk about stuff that happened back in 2016 while occasionally being interupted by current news from either 10%

Wonder how many volumes this thread will run too before people move on?

Well you clearly haven't

But seriously, folks, the thread title is not about 2016; it is whether Brexit was worth it. That's still very much an unfolding situation.

[turbobloke]

skwdenyer said:

B'stard Child said:

Oh good another fresh start to talk about stuff that happened back in 2016 while occasionally being interupted by current news from either 10%

Wonder how many volumes this thread will run too before people move on?

Well you clearly haven't

But seriously, folks, the thread title is not about 2016; it is whether Brexit was worth it. That's still very much an unfolding situation.

Only from the myopia of a narrow focus on some aspects of some elements of trade at some early point in time, less so as time goes by (see EEC accession).

Many benefits, listed n times in this thread, are outside such tunnel vision. Still, keep on remaining for 5 more years and onwards if it helps in some way, nothing remotely rational will get in the way for sure.

[Garvin]

The assessments of whether Brexit is worth it are made somewhat difficult because of a number of other issues - mainly the pandemic and its knock-on effects and now the energy crisis and its subsequent effects e.g. CO2 production affecting food production etc. It was always going to be difficult enough without these other disturbances so it is going to take quite a few years to really gauge the effect of Brexit. What I think is pretty clear is that, currently, there is neither a catastrophic downside nor any euphoric upside.

[Unknown_User]

Ooops.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58646017

I don't think this was part of Bozza's much vaunted oven ready deal.

[Gecko1978]

Unknown_User said:

Ooops.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58646017

I don't think this was part of Bozza's much vaunted oven ready deal.

You have to wonder what the US want for a trade deal it might actually be easier to let people vote on it. Chlorine washed chicken and GM fruit yes or no etc. Biden was never going to be friendly the Dems have rarely been so Obama was anti Brexit.

[Vanden Saab]

Unknown_User said:

Ooops.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58646017

I don't think this was part of Bozza's much vaunted oven ready deal.

I see the oven ready deal has become the remnants new big red bus. I am sure they were supposed to be the clever ones

[AC43]

Mandat said:

DeejRC said:

Imagine the fun William would have writing about this stuff…

To B(rexit), or not to B(rexit)? That is the question.

"Is this a US trade deal I see before me?".

No.

[Garvin]

Vanden Saab said:

Unknown_User said:

Ooops.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58646017

I don't think this was part of Bozza's much vaunted oven ready deal.

I see the oven ready deal has become the remnants new big red bus. I am sure they were supposed to be the clever ones

Piha’s post is not inaccurate - an FTA with the US was definitely not part of Boris’ “oven ready deal” which just covered the WA with the EU. It is however difficult to understand the point being made - methinks it’s just the output of an upset and confused mind.

[Unknown_User]

Garvin said:

Vanden Saab said:

Unknown_User said:

Ooops.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58646017

I don't think this was part of Bozza's much vaunted oven ready deal.

I see the oven ready deal has become the remnants new big red bus. I am sure they were supposed to be the clever ones

Piha’s post is not inaccurate - an FTA with the US was definitely not part of Boris’ “oven ready deal” which just covered the WA with the EU. It is however difficult to understand the point being made - methinks it’s just the output of an upset and confused mind.

Bozza's 'oven ready' deal did include NI/EU trade though and that seems to be a sticking point for POTUS. Before their meeting Mr Biden issued a fresh warning to the UK that peace in Northern Ireland must not be jeopardised as a result of complications caused by Brexit.

[Oilchange]

But it didn’t include a US deal though.
Did it?

[barryrs]

Did Bidens eyebrows give the as yet unknown reasons away for our astute naysayers?

[don'tbesilly]

Garvin said:

Vanden Saab said:

Unknown_User said:

Ooops.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58646017

I don't think this was part of Bozza's much vaunted oven ready deal.

I see the oven ready deal has become the remnants new big red bus. I am sure they were supposed to be the clever ones

Piha’s post is not inaccurate - an FTA with the US was definitely not part of Boris’ “oven ready deal” which just covered the WA with the EU. It is however difficult to understand the point being made - methinks it’s just the output of an upset and confused mind.

You would have thought Piha's month-long holiday would have resulted in a fresh approach to Brexit, because of course, everyone who voted to leave the EU did so because the UK would then be able to get a trade deal with the US.

[Garvin]

Oilchange said:

But it didn’t include a US deal though.
Did it?

Of course it didn’t. He’s just rambling, now moving the goal posts, clutching at straws as an outlet for his anger.

Some people will never get over the fact that we have now left the EU never to return. They will go to their graves bitter and twisted with it continually gnawing at their very being. Couple that with the fact that Boris is going nowhere for many a year and it’s just too much to bear for some.

Meanwhile, the rest of us will get on with our lives and make the best of it.