CV19 - Cure Worse Than The Disease? (Vol 18)
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RSTurboPaul said:
An interesting Tweet.
https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1638286683...
Is the Chimney Swift real?https://twitter.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1638286683...
Tweet said:
In EcoHealth Alliance's research grant from the NIH which spanned 2014-2019, they report the following in their progress report:
"In collaboration with Ralph Baric (UNC), we used the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system to generate a chimeric virus with a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone expressing SHC014 S protein with 10% sequence divergence from SARS-CoV S. This chimera replicated in primary human airway epithelium, using the human ACE2 receptor to enter into cells."
Source: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21055989/un...
"In collaboration with Ralph Baric (UNC), we used the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system to generate a chimeric virus with a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone expressing SHC014 S protein with 10% sequence divergence from SARS-CoV S. This chimera replicated in primary human airway epithelium, using the human ACE2 receptor to enter into cells."
Source: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21055989/un...
MikeT66 said:
Julia Hartley-Brewer was spot on this morning.
The discussion with Carl Heneghan is spot on. We could have stopped it all in Autumn 2020, but they panicked once again and we doubled down on our original mistake. The Jan 2021 lockdown was total madness. An avoidable catastrophe.
Heneghan is absolutely right. Nothing we did protected the vulnerable. It was an utter failure.
We could have done incredible things, but the money we spent was wasted stockpiling dodgy PPE and paying millions not to work.
MikeT66 said:
Julia Hartley-Brewer was spot on this morning.
Yep, she nails it there. I was looking at my records from this time 3 years ago and it's disturbing. They caused panic, and it was absolutely disastrous for anyone either with Covid or il for any reason without it. Probably 3 years to this day, I visited a nursing home where a family's mother was dying, cancer as I recall, and I found them in the car park, had been told they couldn't come in. there was probably 10 of them. Luckily she was on the ground floor but they had to watch me helping her on her way through the window. Strange times.
The level of obedience with this nonsense was/is alarming.
Where do we file this. Gates calling for countries to hand over heath authority to the WHO.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/opinion/bill-ga...
I guess it's lucky he is a major funder in the WHO.
Guess thats a nothing conspiracy about the WHO and there pandemic treaty coming true.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/opinion/bill-ga...
I guess it's lucky he is a major funder in the WHO.
Guess thats a nothing conspiracy about the WHO and there pandemic treaty coming true.
J210 said:
Where do we file this. Gates calling for countries to hand over heath authority to the WHO.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/opinion/bill-ga...
I guess it's lucky he is a major funder in the WHO.
Guess thats a nothing conspiracy about the WHO and there pandemic treaty coming true.
What??? This is the guy who built his company on his ability to thieve other concepts backed by the lack of copyright laws in the software world at the timehttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/opinion/bill-ga...
I guess it's lucky he is a major funder in the WHO.
Guess thats a nothing conspiracy about the WHO and there pandemic treaty coming true.
Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
KAgantua said:
Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
Exactly he appears to be an expert in everything and is wheeled out by Governments and News all around the world for his views on Climate change, Covid, Vaccines. Luckily he invested so heavily in vaccines just before covid....
KAgantua said:
What??? This is the guy who built his company on his ability to thieve other concepts backed by the lack of copyright laws in the software world at the time
Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
Did he?Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
What software concepts did he thieve?
Grumps. said:
KAgantua said:
What??? This is the guy who built his company on his ability to thieve other concepts backed by the lack of copyright laws in the software world at the time
Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
Did he?Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
What software concepts did he thieve?
Mate im not a running a Q+A for the history of Microsoft Corporation. Feel like im falling into a trap here, but perhaps 'Do some research'
Grumps. said:
KAgantua said:
Are you OK? Are you 'just asking questions'?
Mate im not a running a Q+A for the history of Microsoft Corporation. Feel like im falling into a trap here, but perhaps 'Do some research'
Apologies, just thought you might have some facts to back up your statement.Mate im not a running a Q+A for the history of Microsoft Corporation. Feel like im falling into a trap here, but perhaps 'Do some research'
Grumps. said:
KAgantua said:
What??? This is the guy who built his company on his ability to thieve other concepts backed by the lack of copyright laws in the software world at the time
Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
Did he?Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
What software concepts did he thieve?
He was challenged by Jobs over it a few times resulting in the now famous response
Bill Gates said:
Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.
Apple took MS to court in 1988 for Copyright Infringement, and MS only escaped on a technicality. After that MS would spend a lot of time in various courts - mostly on antitrust violations and abuse of their market position - however those rescued massively after Gates left.
There was also lots of dubiousness around how DOS came around, but that seems more him being clever with his agreement with IBM. He did manage to sell them a product which didn't exist (DOS 1.0) which is talented/shady depending on your POV.
bodhi said:
Grumps. said:
KAgantua said:
What??? This is the guy who built his company on his ability to thieve other concepts backed by the lack of copyright laws in the software world at the time
Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
Did he?Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
What software concepts did he thieve?
He was challenged by Jobs over it a few times resulting in the now famous response
Bill Gates said:
Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.
Apple took MS to court in 1988 for Copyright Infringement, and MS only escaped on a technicality. After that MS would spend a lot of time in various courts - mostly on antitrust violations and abuse of their market position - however those rescued massively after Gates left.
There was also lots of dubiousness around how DOS came around, but that seems more him being clever with his agreement with IBM. He did manage to sell them a product which didn't exist (DOS 1.0) which is talented/shady depending on your POV.
No doubt he was one of many doing similar back in the day!
Grumps. said:
bodhi said:
Grumps. said:
KAgantua said:
What??? This is the guy who built his company on his ability to thieve other concepts backed by the lack of copyright laws in the software world at the time
Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
Did he?Great business man, but why are we listening to him on Global Health Policy?
What software concepts did he thieve?
He was challenged by Jobs over it a few times resulting in the now famous response
Bill Gates said:
Well, Steve, I think there's more than one way of looking at it. I think it's more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.
Apple took MS to court in 1988 for Copyright Infringement, and MS only escaped on a technicality. After that MS would spend a lot of time in various courts - mostly on antitrust violations and abuse of their market position - however those rescued massively after Gates left.
There was also lots of dubiousness around how DOS came around, but that seems more him being clever with his agreement with IBM. He did manage to sell them a product which didn't exist (DOS 1.0) which is talented/shady depending on your POV.
No doubt he was one of many doing similar back in the day!
J210 said:
Where do we file this. Gates calling for countries to hand over heath authority to the WHO.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/opinion/bill-ga...
I guess it's lucky he is a major funder in the WHO.
Guess thats a nothing conspiracy about the WHO and there pandemic treaty coming true.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/19/opinion/bill-ga...
I guess it's lucky he is a major funder in the WHO.
Guess thats a nothing conspiracy about the WHO and there pandemic treaty coming true.
Article said:
One of the most important jobs of the corps will be to ??take quick action to stop the spread of a pathogen. The speed of action requires countries to have large-scale testing capabilities that identify potential threats early. Environmental surveillance like sewage testing is key, since many pathogens show up in human waste. If a sewage sample comes back positive, a rapid response team would deploy to the affected area to find people who might be infected, carry out a response plan?? and kick off the necessary community education about what to look for and how to stay protected.
That sounds a lot like China's efforts in terms of massive, continuous testing and targeting neighbourhoods (or workplaces or train stations or...) where a positive test result comes up - one might wonder if Mr Gates is omitting the details of where they might forcibly imprison the residents of the area in question with zero notice as part of the 'carry out a response plan' phase.Article said:
We can’t afford to get caught flat-footed again. The world must take action now to make sure Covid-19 becomes the last pandemic, and one of the biggest moves we can make is to support the world’s principal health experts — the W.H.O. — and invest in the Global Health Emergency Corps so it can live up to its full potential.
??This will require two things: First, public health leaders from all countries need to participate. The next ?pandemic could emerge anywhere, and so the Emergency Corps must have expertise from every corner of the globe, including from national disease and research agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health in the United States. Second, we need wealthier countries to step up and provide funding to make this a reality.
Ignoring the astounding arrogance demonstrated where he thinks Man can control nature, it's a good job the CDC and NIH have been paragons of transparency and truth and unwavering in their commitment to scientific principles during the response to Covid-19, as otherwise one might think they were likely to obfuscate, lie and actively suppress scientific discussion in order to further their own agenda.??This will require two things: First, public health leaders from all countries need to participate. The next ?pandemic could emerge anywhere, and so the Emergency Corps must have expertise from every corner of the globe, including from national disease and research agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health in the United States. Second, we need wealthier countries to step up and provide funding to make this a reality.
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Friday 24th March 12:39
Seventy said:
J210 said:
Luckily he invested so heavily in vaccines just before covid....
I’m interested to know exactly what you mean by this. Article said:
Bill Gates turned his $55 million vaccine investment in Pfizer’s partner, BioNTech, into over $550 million in just under two years
LeighW said:
Seventy said:
J210 said:
Luckily he invested so heavily in vaccines just before covid....
I’m interested to know exactly what you mean by this. Article said:
Bill Gates turned his $55 million vaccine investment in Pfizer’s partner, BioNTech, into over $550 million in just under two years
The Gates foundation has been investing in vaccines for years, including mRNA.
And what do you think Gates does with that money?
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