Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2
Discussion
RichFN2 said:
TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
boholoblanka said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Russia are sending in the big guns, no sorry big buns for it's new General in the area.
"Due to significant losses among competent commanders, Russia has been forced to send in retired Major General Pavel to oversee a special forces unit operating in Eastern Ukraine.
Pavel is a 67-year-old veteran of Russia's war in Afghanistan."
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/154112339312...
Big target.
'I run marathons.'"Due to significant losses among competent commanders, Russia has been forced to send in retired Major General Pavel to oversee a special forces unit operating in Eastern Ukraine.
Pavel is a 67-year-old veteran of Russia's war in Afghanistan."
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/154112339312...
Big target.
The civilised world calls those "Snickers" nowadays.
https://twitter.com/DaveSmithSkvn/status/154115198...
rigga said:
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Jhonno said:
Russian's have been busy bombing a hugely strategic shopping centre, full of shoppers today.. It's hard not to be emotive about it, but they are utterly abhorrent.
Cotaining a thousand civilians according to the BBC. Suspect it's a lot of both.
See it as it is
Never forget what Russia is capable of
If Russian gear was so bad that they weren't hitting areas like the above, they would make adjustments to ensure they were doing so in the future
Much of the world have now witnessed what Russia is capable of
Polly Grigora said:
rigga said:
take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Jhonno said:
Russian's have been busy bombing a hugely strategic shopping centre, full of shoppers today.. It's hard not to be emotive about it, but they are utterly abhorrent.
Cotaining a thousand civilians according to the BBC. Suspect it's a lot of both.
See it as it is
Never forget what Russia is capable of
If Russian gear was so bad that they weren't hitting areas like the above, they would make adjustments to ensure they were doing so in the future
Much of the world have now witnessed what Russia is capable of
Allied bombing of Germany proved that it doesn't work. Germany didn't surrender because the population rose up and made Hitler surrender. Germany surrendered because it was defeated militarily. They ran out of soldiers and materiel.
Ukraine isn't running out of anything - and it isn't running away.
pingu393 said:
It will have been done to ensure that every Ukrainian is aware that life will not return to normality until Zelenskyy surrenders.
Allied bombing of Germany proved that it doesn't work. Germany didn't surrender because the population rose up and made Hitler surrender. Germany surrendered because it was defeated militarily. They ran out of soldiers and materiel.
Ukraine isn't running out of anything - and it isn't running away.
Not sure where you are finding a connection with bombing of Germany?Allied bombing of Germany proved that it doesn't work. Germany didn't surrender because the population rose up and made Hitler surrender. Germany surrendered because it was defeated militarily. They ran out of soldiers and materiel.
Ukraine isn't running out of anything - and it isn't running away.
pingu393 said:
Allied bombing of Germany proved that it doesn't work. Germany didn't surrender because the population rose up and made Hitler surrender. Germany surrendered because it was defeated militarily. They ran out of soldiers and materiel.
Well Allied bombing of Japan prove it does work if it's sufficiently damaging.....And one might add that Chechnya and Syria proved that decimating cities ultimately can and will work.
Evanivitch said:
Register1 said:
PRTVR said:
Russian tanks meet Ukrainian mine field, it looks like the first one got hit on the road so they moved into the field and found more. got to say the speed of the Russian tanks is impressive,
it must make you more carfull going forward after that, it looks like the rest all stopped and became a sitting target , hopefully with the drone up the rest will be hit.
Would there be any survivors from that tank ?it must make you more carfull going forward after that, it looks like the rest all stopped and became a sitting target , hopefully with the drone up the rest will be hit.
Still probable that the force and spalling did some damage to the crew and any material that wasn't secured will have bounced about!
BikeBikeBIke said:
arguti said:
CrutyRammers said:
More strikes on snake island overnight. I don't suppose they can realistically re-occupy it except by air, which'd make getting equipment there rather harder. But failing that, they can deny use of it perhaps.
Can you imagine trying to "persuade" somebody to be stationed there?! An excellent life limiting career move.
https://greenelibrary.bibliocommons.com/v2/quotati...
Seems that the Russians will keep sending troops and equipment there, regardless of what happens. When did the Russians fall back to WWI tactics?
J4CKO said:
AdeTuono said:
Tango13 said:
CrutyRammers said:
J4CKO said:
Wonder how many missiles they have for the new toys ?
Hoping they have plenty to smash the living fk out of them.
"Rah Rah Rah, We're going to smash the Orcs" !
"I've got a porsche" Hoping they have plenty to smash the living fk out of them.
"Rah Rah Rah, We're going to smash the Orcs" !
The Russian forces need to be wary of precariously placed chocolate eclairs...
isaldiri said:
pingu393 said:
Allied bombing of Germany proved that it doesn't work. Germany didn't surrender because the population rose up and made Hitler surrender. Germany surrendered because it was defeated militarily. They ran out of soldiers and materiel.
Well Allied bombing of Japan prove it does work if it's sufficiently damaging.....And one might add that Chechnya and Syria proved that decimating cities ultimately can and will work.
There are other differences, but that's a significant one.
Al Gorithum said:
moustachebandit said:
Al Gorithum said:
Chatting to some Russian friends at the weekend. Apparently when Boris went to Ukraine last week, on TV he said "hello I'm Boris Johnson", with hello being in being said in the Russian dialect - not Ukrainian, which went down like a cup of cold sick in Ukraine but cheered the Russians right up. What a nob...
Do your Russian friends get their news from Telegram?Is this the TV appearance where he apparently used Russian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEbnsTbd_ik&t=...
Could be true, Boris is known for gaffs, could also be complete tripe but people dont question it as they think Boris has just made another gaff. I suspect the UK news would have made a bit of a fuss about it seeing as they like to dog pile Boris at the moment.
As to Russians being cheered up by this…. Who gives a fk what they think, and who do you think cares that the think this? Tell them to duck off back to Russia if they think this was funny and cheered them up.
hidetheelephants said:
I assume he's there to oversee the theft of all the grain.TTmonkey said:
Al Gorithum said:
moustachebandit said:
Al Gorithum said:
Chatting to some Russian friends at the weekend. Apparently when Boris went to Ukraine last week, on TV he said "hello I'm Boris Johnson", with hello being in being said in the Russian dialect - not Ukrainian, which went down like a cup of cold sick in Ukraine but cheered the Russians right up. What a nob...
Do your Russian friends get their news from Telegram?Is this the TV appearance where he apparently used Russian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEbnsTbd_ik&t=...
Could be true, Boris is known for gaffs, could also be complete tripe but people dont question it as they think Boris has just made another gaff. I suspect the UK news would have made a bit of a fuss about it seeing as they like to dog pile Boris at the moment.
Don't know mate. High-level business people who live in Central London. Apparently it's gone viral over there.
As to Russians being cheered up by this…. Who gives a fk what they think, and who do you think cares that the think this? Tell them to duck off back to Russia if they think this was funny and cheered them up.
TTmonkey said:
Al Gorithum said:
moustachebandit said:
Al Gorithum said:
Chatting to some Russian friends at the weekend. Apparently when Boris went to Ukraine last week, on TV he said "hello I'm Boris Johnson", with hello being in being said in the Russian dialect - not Ukrainian, which went down like a cup of cold sick in Ukraine but cheered the Russians right up. What a nob...
Do your Russian friends get their news from Telegram?Is this the TV appearance where he apparently used Russian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEbnsTbd_ik&t=...
Could be true, Boris is known for gaffs, could also be complete tripe but people dont question it as they think Boris has just made another gaff. I suspect the UK news would have made a bit of a fuss about it seeing as they like to dog pile Boris at the moment.
As to Russians being cheered up by this…. Who gives a fk what they think, and who do you think cares that the think this? Tell them to duck off back to Russia if they think this was funny and cheered them up.
Jeanboi said:
TTmonkey said:
Al Gorithum said:
moustachebandit said:
Al Gorithum said:
Chatting to some Russian friends at the weekend. Apparently when Boris went to Ukraine last week, on TV he said "hello I'm Boris Johnson", with hello being in being said in the Russian dialect - not Ukrainian, which went down like a cup of cold sick in Ukraine but cheered the Russians right up. What a nob...
Do your Russian friends get their news from Telegram?Is this the TV appearance where he apparently used Russian?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEbnsTbd_ik&t=...
Could be true, Boris is known for gaffs, could also be complete tripe but people dont question it as they think Boris has just made another gaff. I suspect the UK news would have made a bit of a fuss about it seeing as they like to dog pile Boris at the moment.
Don't know mate. High-level business people who live in Central London. Apparently it's gone viral over there.
As to Russians being cheered up by this…. Who gives a fk what they think, and who do you think cares that the think this? Tell them to duck off back to Russia if they think this was funny and cheered them up.
Aka, made up bks I suspect.
fblm said:
hidetheelephants said:
I assume he's there to oversee the theft of all the grain.TEKNOPUG said:
pingu393 said:
It will have been done to ensure that every Ukrainian is aware that life will not return to normality until Zelenskyy surrenders.
Allied bombing of Germany proved that it doesn't work. Germany didn't surrender because the population rose up and made Hitler surrender. Germany surrendered because it was defeated militarily. They ran out of soldiers and materiel.
Ukraine isn't running out of anything - and it isn't running away.
Not sure where you are finding a connection with bombing of Germany?Allied bombing of Germany proved that it doesn't work. Germany didn't surrender because the population rose up and made Hitler surrender. Germany surrendered because it was defeated militarily. They ran out of soldiers and materiel.
Ukraine isn't running out of anything - and it isn't running away.
Lots of artillery. Attacker thinks "thank God I'm not on the end of that". Defender digs in and rides it out.
Attack civilians. Attacker thinks "thank God I'm not on the end of that". Defender becomes more determined not to be defeated. It stiffens the defenders' morale.
Neither are particularly successful compared to well-aimed strikes at critical military targets.
vonuber said:
TTmonkey said:
I’m pretty sure most Ukrainians respect the fact that Boris was the first to help, and the first leader to visit their war torn country, in its complete desperation.
I'm sure the polish pm was there in kiev way before Boris went.Willhire89 said:
Evanivitch said:
Register1 said:
PRTVR said:
Russian tanks meet Ukrainian mine field, it looks like the first one got hit on the road so they moved into the field and found more. got to say the speed of the Russian tanks is impressive,
it must make you more carfull going forward after that, it looks like the rest all stopped and became a sitting target , hopefully with the drone up the rest will be hit.
Would there be any survivors from that tank ?it must make you more carfull going forward after that, it looks like the rest all stopped and became a sitting target , hopefully with the drone up the rest will be hit.
Still probable that the force and spalling did some damage to the crew and any material that wasn't secured will have bounced about!
It's exceedingly satisfying watching Russian armour go up in smoke.
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