Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2

Russia invades Ukraine. Volume 2

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BikeBikeBIke

7,864 posts

114 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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ChocolateFrog said:
Quite likely that they all suffered internal injuries at the very least due to the pressure waves.

It's exceedingly satisfying watching Russian armour go up in smoke.
Yeah, we can be pretty sure they aren't press ganged Ukranians, so no need for mixed feelings.

boholoblanka

1,846 posts

137 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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fblm said:
hidetheelephants said:
Russia sending their finest, it's General Hilarity. rofl

I assume he's there to oversee the theft of all the grain.
he aint there to solve the rationing issue, thats for sure

PRTVR

7,073 posts

220 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Not a very good video, but reportedly shows a manpad missile taking out a Russian helicopter probably a martlet due to the lack of smoke from the rocket,
the helicopter appears to be flying higher than it should, its basically a dot on the screen but the troops cheer and the dot heads towards the ground.


The Rotrex Kid

30,192 posts

159 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Incredible stuff from Baykar.


TriumphStag3.0V8

3,794 posts

80 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Incredible stuff from Baykar.

bowbowbowbow

clapclapclap

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Apparently one of these was up today:


stemll

4,065 posts

199 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:
The Rotrex Kid said:
Incredible stuff from Baykar.

bowbowbowbow

clapclapclap
Not the first time they have done this

https://baykartech.com/en/press/turkish-defense-fi...

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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NATO to increase NATO Response Forces to 300k from 40k:

https://news.sky.com/story/nato-to-significantly-i...


pinchmeimdreamin

9,837 posts

217 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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vonuber said:
Apparently one of these was up today:

Their were a couple of RAF Eurofighters floating about as well turning the Transponders on and off randomly

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

246 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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UNSC emergency meeting tomorrow which should be interesting.

Direct questions will be asked of Russia no doubt and usual bluster will follow but unsure how they can possibly answer this one to the satisfaction of the international community?

deckster

9,630 posts

254 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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MOTORVATOR said:
UNSC emergency meeting tomorrow which should be interesting.

Direct questions will be asked of Russia no doubt and usual bluster will follow but unsure how they can possibly answer this one to the satisfaction of the international community?
Why do you think they feel the need to answer to the satisfaction of the international community? They'll bluster, they'll lie, they might even say it didn't happen or that the shopping centre was bombed by the Ukrainians. They couldn't give a flying fk about the other members of the security council.

Flanders.

6,365 posts

207 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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vonuber said:
NATO to increase NATO Response Forces to 300k from 40k:

https://news.sky.com/story/nato-to-significantly-i...
That's a sure fire way of stopping Putin trying anything in eastern Europe...hopefully.

pingu393

7,719 posts

204 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
vonuber said:
Apparently one of these was up today:

Their were a couple of RAF Eurofighters floating about as well turning the Transponders on and off randomly
The F35s could get the Russians excited by flying at max speed towards the Black Sea and turning the transponder off at the appropriate time.

Turn it back on again five minutes later when it is well inside Romanian airspace.

Jockman

17,912 posts

159 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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deckster said:
Why do you think they feel the need to answer to the satisfaction of the international community? They'll bluster, they'll lie, they might even say it didn't happen or that the shopping centre was bombed by the Ukrainians. They couldn't give a flying fk about the other members of the security council.
For the most part, the feeling is mutual.

It’s a process that they need to go through.

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

246 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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deckster said:
MOTORVATOR said:
UNSC emergency meeting tomorrow which should be interesting.

Direct questions will be asked of Russia no doubt and usual bluster will follow but unsure how they can possibly answer this one to the satisfaction of the international community?
Why do you think they feel the need to answer to the satisfaction of the international community? They'll bluster, they'll lie, they might even say it didn't happen or that the shopping centre was bombed by the Ukrainians. They couldn't give a flying fk about the other members of the security council.
Totally agree but direct targeting of civilians is war crime no question. UN will either have to step up to the plate on this now or may just as well disband I would have thought?

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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MOTORVATOR said:
deckster said:
MOTORVATOR said:
UNSC emergency meeting tomorrow which should be interesting.

Direct questions will be asked of Russia no doubt and usual bluster will follow but unsure how they can possibly answer this one to the satisfaction of the international community?
Why do you think they feel the need to answer to the satisfaction of the international community? They'll bluster, they'll lie, they might even say it didn't happen or that the shopping centre was bombed by the Ukrainians. They couldn't give a flying fk about the other members of the security council.
Totally agree but direct targeting of civilians is war crime no question. UN will either have to step up to the plate on this now or may just as well disband I would have thought?
Step up to the plate and do what exactly? Condemning Russia and stating the UN stands with the Ukraine is all well and good but words will be completely ineffective in terms of deterring much less stopping Putin - there's only one thing he'll understand and (IMO) it's about time politicians in the West started to recognise that.

MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

246 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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JNW1 said:
MOTORVATOR said:
deckster said:
MOTORVATOR said:
UNSC emergency meeting tomorrow which should be interesting.

Direct questions will be asked of Russia no doubt and usual bluster will follow but unsure how they can possibly answer this one to the satisfaction of the international community?
Why do you think they feel the need to answer to the satisfaction of the international community? They'll bluster, they'll lie, they might even say it didn't happen or that the shopping centre was bombed by the Ukrainians. They couldn't give a flying fk about the other members of the security council.
Totally agree but direct targeting of civilians is war crime no question. UN will either have to step up to the plate on this now or may just as well disband I would have thought?
Step up to the plate and do what exactly? Condemning Russia and stating the UN stands with the Ukraine is all well and good but words will be completely ineffective in terms of deterring much less stopping Putin - there's only one thing he'll understand and (IMO) it's about time politicians in the West started to recognise that.
It has two options open to it.

Article 27(3) of the UN Charter establishes the only limitation to a Council member participating in a vote in the Security Council: “in decisions under Chapter VI, and under paragraph 3 of Article 52, a party to a dispute shall abstain from voting.” Although
this limitation applies in equal measure to all Council members, it is interesting that the very article that enshrines the veto also
institutes the only restriction to its use.

Or alternatively remove them as permanent members as they have never been formally agreed as successors to the Soviet Union.

Evanivitch

19,803 posts

121 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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pingu393 said:
The F35s could get the Russians excited by flying at max speed towards the Black Sea and turning the transponder off at the appropriate time.

Turn it back on again five minutes later when it is well inside Romanian airspace.
All the F35 in the area will be wearing Lundberg Lens (radar reflectors) to provide a nice and clear radar cross section.

There's no value in giving the Russians practice at tracking the latest stealth aircraft.

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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MOTORVATOR said:
JNW1 said:
MOTORVATOR said:
deckster said:
MOTORVATOR said:
UNSC emergency meeting tomorrow which should be interesting.

Direct questions will be asked of Russia no doubt and usual bluster will follow but unsure how they can possibly answer this one to the satisfaction of the international community?
Why do you think they feel the need to answer to the satisfaction of the international community? They'll bluster, they'll lie, they might even say it didn't happen or that the shopping centre was bombed by the Ukrainians. They couldn't give a flying fk about the other members of the security council.
Totally agree but direct targeting of civilians is war crime no question. UN will either have to step up to the plate on this now or may just as well disband I would have thought?
Step up to the plate and do what exactly? Condemning Russia and stating the UN stands with the Ukraine is all well and good but words will be completely ineffective in terms of deterring much less stopping Putin - there's only one thing he'll understand and (IMO) it's about time politicians in the West started to recognise that.
It has two options open to it.

Article 27(3) of the UN Charter establishes the only limitation to a Council member participating in a vote in the Security Council: “in decisions under Chapter VI, and under paragraph 3 of Article 52, a party to a dispute shall abstain from voting.” Although
this limitation applies in equal measure to all Council members, it is interesting that the very article that enshrines the veto also
institutes the only restriction to its use.

Or alternatively remove them as permanent members as they have never been formally agreed as successors to the Soviet Union.
So basically take action which is symbolic and will have no effect whatsoever on what Russia's doing in the Ukraine...


MOTORVATOR

6,993 posts

246 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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JNW1 said:
MOTORVATOR said:
JNW1 said:
MOTORVATOR said:
deckster said:
MOTORVATOR said:
UNSC emergency meeting tomorrow which should be interesting.

Direct questions will be asked of Russia no doubt and usual bluster will follow but unsure how they can possibly answer this one to the satisfaction of the international community?
Why do you think they feel the need to answer to the satisfaction of the international community? They'll bluster, they'll lie, they might even say it didn't happen or that the shopping centre was bombed by the Ukrainians. They couldn't give a flying fk about the other members of the security council.
Totally agree but direct targeting of civilians is war crime no question. UN will either have to step up to the plate on this now or may just as well disband I would have thought?
Step up to the plate and do what exactly? Condemning Russia and stating the UN stands with the Ukraine is all well and good but words will be completely ineffective in terms of deterring much less stopping Putin - there's only one thing he'll understand and (IMO) it's about time politicians in the West started to recognise that.
It has two options open to it.

Article 27(3) of the UN Charter establishes the only limitation to a Council member participating in a vote in the Security Council: “in decisions under Chapter VI, and under paragraph 3 of Article 52, a party to a dispute shall abstain from voting.” Although
this limitation applies in equal measure to all Council members, it is interesting that the very article that enshrines the veto also
institutes the only restriction to its use.

Or alternatively remove them as permanent members as they have never been formally agreed as successors to the Soviet Union.
So basically take action which is symbolic and will have no effect whatsoever on what Russia's doing in the Ukraine...
I guess you are alluding to Western politicians agreeing to just go in and remove the aggressor?

Lot more chance of that happening if they have the backing of UN to do so.