Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe has UK passport returned, MP says.
Discussion
TJSFWG said:
You, like your leader couldn’t have cared less about either of them.
One less hostage than the rest of you then. Is it the political gift or the fact that she's a pretty woman, seriously the thread is kind of weird, just reading this you wouldn't know he existed yet he's part of the BBC headline!.fblm said:
Can't say I've followed the story much until today but why all the celebration for the lady on here and no mention of Anoosheh Ashoori? I'd never even heard of him before today but it seems like he's also been held since 2017. Judging by all the usual names on here has she become something of a cause celebre with the left as an embarrassment to Johnson and he's just some guy or what?
Its not about the left.The FCO recommends that the families of those who are held unfairly abroad keep quiet and leave everything to them to sort out. Their argument is that making things public could interfere with negotiations.
Most families do this, Zaghari-Ratcliffe's husband went against government advice and did his publicity campaign to shame both governments into getting her out. Arguably it was ineffective was Anoosheh Ashoori's family complied with FCO advice and got the same result.
Boxer4 said:
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The FCO recommends that the families of those who are held unfairly abroad keep quiet and leave everything to them to sort out. Their argument is that making things public could interfere with negotiations.
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You can see how as a general rule that would make sense. Any kind of unsavory realpolitik or 'deal with the enemy' is going to be that much harder when the public and press are all over it. The FCO recommends that the families of those who are held unfairly abroad keep quiet and leave everything to them to sort out. Their argument is that making things public could interfere with negotiations.
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Whilst Irans accusations of her being a spy were no doubt fabricated, I wonder what circles she moved in, if any. Was she just the daughter visiting her parents or did she have some background that caused them suspicion?
We may find out if she or her husband release a book, which I'm sure they will. Could be an interesting read.
We may find out if she or her husband release a book, which I'm sure they will. Could be an interesting read.
andyA700 said:
Good to know she is on a plane along with the other guy who has been released. It won't be a direct flight unless it is a private jet, because the Iran Air flights to Heathrow are Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. A Mahan air flight - IRM114 - left for Istanbul just over half an hour ago.
I have hunch she's on Boris's plane (which went to Saudi today).Ridgemont said:
G-wiz said:
I'll wager he'll shag her brains out.
6 years, no nookie.
Gee whiz.6 years, no nookie.
I would imagine ‘nookie’ will be the last thing on their minds as they have to get know each other after 6 years.
But congrats on infantile comment of night.
tish comment - but quite late too (giving you a free opt out here!!). I do wish them the best though, the husband who’s worked exceptionally hard, the daughter who doesn’t know her mother, and god knows what she’s endured whilst there’. There’s going to be media over the next 24/48 hours - but then I hope they have the peace they deserve and need.
catso said:
TTmonkey said:
So we paid them their 400 million back to ensure this happens.
Did it have to take so long?
Should have given them the (1970s) tanks instead. Did it have to take so long?
LeadFarmer said:
Whilst Irans accusations of her being a spy were no doubt fabricated
Why? Don't we have spies in Iran? Maybe physical people spying in person within countries are a thing of the past due to electronics. If not I'd guess we *must* have spies, and if we do I don't see why she wouldn't be one.Not sure how we'd know.
BikeBikeBIke said:
LeadFarmer said:
Whilst Irans accusations of her being a spy were no doubt fabricated
Why? Don't we have spies in Iran? Maybe physical people spying in person within countries are a thing of the past due to electronics. If not I'd guess we *must* have spies, and if we do I don't see why she wouldn't be one.Not sure how we'd know.
hidetheelephants said:
Most bread-and-butter spying is done by embassy staff, it's just talking to people and learning things, even in a backward theocratic horrorshow like Iran.
From what little I've read (about Russian sleeper cells for instance) that's true.So, we come back to, why wouldn't she be a spy?
BikeBikeBIke said:
From what little I've read (about Russian sleeper cells for instance) that's true.
So, we come back to, why wouldn't she be a spy?
No reason. They don't all wear dinner jackets and drive Astons.So, we come back to, why wouldn't she be a spy?
She might also just have been a dual Iran/Brit national, travelling there at a time when Iran wanted stuff from Britain/the West.
Good she's out, but anyone with a Brit passport going to places like this is nuts.
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