RMT union vote for a national rail strike
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kestral said:
Because under the socialist Labour governments of the 70's it was an agreement in the rule book that there would be no compulsory redundancies on the railway, only job redeployment.
As did many other nationalised industries.
Privatisation removed that from the rule book but the RMT still have it as their policy.
WTF do you get your ‘facts’ from?As did many other nationalised industries.
Privatisation removed that from the rule book but the RMT still have it as their policy.
In parts of Yorkshire the buses are on strike as well as the trains.
The bus company have offered 12% but the union won't even put this to its members!
Doesn't there come a point where the members can say they will accept without the union management agreeing?
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/strike-upd...
The bus company have offered 12% but the union won't even put this to its members!
Doesn't there come a point where the members can say they will accept without the union management agreeing?
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/strike-upd...
RicksAlfas said:
In parts of Yorkshire the buses are on strike as well as the trains.
The bus company have offered 12% but the union won't even put this to its members!
Doesn't there come a point where the members can say they will accept without the union management agreeing?
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/strike-upd...
I see what you’re saying but remember there’s two sides to every press release and we don’t know what strings are attached. If they’re too onerous then what looks like a great pay increase could actually end up as detrimental once the new full package is taken into account.The bus company have offered 12% but the union won't even put this to its members!
Doesn't there come a point where the members can say they will accept without the union management agreeing?
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/strike-upd...
If the union thinks there’s more to negotiate like terms and conditions then it makes more sense to get everything negotiated before putting it to there members to accept or reject.
FiF said:
Can imagine a teacher's strike would have an impact. All those families who now have to stay at home or arrange childcare somehow.
I think there’d be more support for pay increase for teachers - among parents at least. It’s not like demand for education has gone down post-pandemic so no real need to protect teachers from redundancy either.
survivalist said:
FiF said:
Can imagine a teacher's strike would have an impact. All those families who now have to stay at home or arrange childcare somehow.
I think there’d be more support for pay increase for teachers - among parents at least. It’s not like demand for education has gone down post-pandemic so no real need to protect teachers from redundancy either.
survivalist said:
FiF said:
Can imagine a teacher's strike would have an impact. All those families who now have to stay at home or arrange childcare somehow.
I think there’d be more support for pay increase for teachers - among parents at least. It’s not like demand for education has gone down post-pandemic so no real need to protect teachers from redundancy either.
Johnnytheboy said:
survivalist said:
FiF said:
Can imagine a teacher's strike would have an impact. All those families who now have to stay at home or arrange childcare somehow.
I think there’d be more support for pay increase for teachers - among parents at least. It’s not like demand for education has gone down post-pandemic so no real need to protect teachers from redundancy either.
Point remains, I’d be far more worried by a teachers strike than rail workers, airport workers l, postal workers etc
legzr1 said:
survivalist said:
Well quite, less than 5 weeks to go.
Point remains, I’d be far more worried by a teachers strike than rail workers, airport workers l, postal workers etc
What about all of them + the odd NHS department?Point remains, I’d be far more worried by a teachers strike than rail workers, airport workers l, postal workers etc
kestral said:
Legacywr said:
How can you think it’s even possible NOT to have CR in any industry/jobs market?
Because under the socialist Labour governments of the 70's it was an agreement in the rule book that there would be no compulsory redundancies on the railway, only job redeployment legzr1 said:
Vasco said:
I'd guess that only the NHS and teachers would concern most of the country.
You’re probably right.Although here we are, page 75.
... and fuel tanker drivers, obviously.
Edited by Johnnytheboy on Saturday 25th June 08:23
eliot said:
kestral said:
Legacywr said:
How can you think it’s even possible NOT to have CR in any industry/jobs market?
Because under the socialist Labour governments of the 70's it was an agreement in the rule book that there would be no compulsory redundancies on the railway, only job redeployment Obviously, that won’t stop kestral posting more nonsense.
‘Green carders’ relates to staff no longer medically fit enough for the mainline.
Green cards on vehicles are ‘for repair’ hence the term.
It’s an old term and I know of nowhere that utilises the idea or term since the mid-90s.
Red card is more serious and not to be moved until repair.
Those to be scrapped are ‘condemned’ with a large X.
Tlandcruiser said:
survivalist said:
They are also, one would imagine, some of the most profitable trains to run.
It’s the day trippers/ leisure customers which are the most profitable Day tripper trains are rarely full outside the summer holidays, and the price per passenger is usually based on a discounted price.
Commuter trains used to have additional standing passengers every working day and the per day ticket price was higher.
Edited by Tommo87 on Saturday 25th June 08:27
eliot said:
kestral said:
Legacywr said:
How can you think it’s even possible NOT to have CR in any industry/jobs market?
Because under the socialist Labour governments of the 70's it was an agreement in the rule book that there would be no compulsory redundancies on the railway, only job redeployment I have even less empathy for them now, if they have been enjoying that benefit over hard working people in other industries.
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