Sanding - dust extraction

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Austin_Metro

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1,196 posts

47 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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I’m intending to sand some paint from the stairs, prior to repainting. Likely using a black and decker mouse or similar.

I’d like to keep control of the dust. Can anyone recommend a cost effective solution to attach to the back of the tool please?

Don’t really want to use the house’s hoover, even if that would be satisfactory.

Cheers

shtu

3,407 posts

145 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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A Henry for about £100? Builder's dust will never kill it.

loughran

2,731 posts

135 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Agreed, the Henry... or Henrietta, is the Kalashnikov of the hoover world.

LocoBlade

7,621 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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One of these with the add-on filter is a good budget alternative to the Henry with the advantage of being a wet/dry vac as well
https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb774vac-1300w-1...
https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-vacuum-filter-car...

If you want to get inventive with the existing hoover, make yourself a cheap dust collector to prevent the crap getting to the hoover bag

https://youtu.be/je3HV3zfaz4

shtu

3,407 posts

145 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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I had a similar wet\dry vac to that a few years back. Noisy as f**K, didn't filter very well, the motor burned out after really not much use at all, and getting spares proved impossible.

I only bought it because I needed a wet vac in a hurry.

My Henry in a fetching shade of yellow is 24 years old, hasn't missed a beat and Will. Not. Die.

Ryyy

1,452 posts

34 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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+1 for Henry's. We even got one off marketplace for the pricely sum of £12 just to hoover up the kitchen renovation mess to save our normal henry smile

ExPat2B

2,157 posts

199 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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Karcher WD2/3/4

It is pretty much made for the job.

Has a separate filter after the bag so building dust doesn't kill it.

Used them for all kinds of heavy work without issue.

LocoBlade

7,621 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th May 2022
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shtu said:
I had a similar wet\dry vac to that a few years back. Noisy as f**K, didn't filter very well, the motor burned out after really not much use at all, and getting spares proved impossible.

I only bought it because I needed a wet vac in a hurry.

My Henry in a fetching shade of yellow is 24 years old, hasn't missed a beat and Will. Not. Die.
The Titans certainly aren't as well made as a Henry but at a third of the price if you want Wet/Dry (which is really handy for general DIY use) you can't really expect that. With the add-on filter that really should be supplied with the vac IMO its filters pretty well, I wouldn't say mine is any noisier than any other vac and it's taken everything I've thrown at it over the past couple of years of a house renovation. I did buy another very similar looking cheap wet/dry vac (from Lidl I think) prior to that and that really was a pile of crap, had a horrible resonance that made it painful on the ears and the first time I used it to extract some water it blew it straight back out through the exhaust outlet, not a patch on the Titan

Alias218

1,485 posts

161 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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I just use a cheap old Vax upright, though I don’t attach it to my sander - I just clean up afterwards. The thing has taken a beating and the main rotary brush no longer works as the belt snapped, but the hose is good and it still hoovers well despite being full of fine dust.

As an aside, I’d also recommend something like a JSP Force 8 respirator while sanding. Saves picking the skirting out of your nose (and lungs).

TimmyMallett

2,811 posts

111 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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One of the best things I bought was a Parkside wet and dry. It was about 70. Power take off is worth it alone so you can plug the sander in and it turns on when you turn the sander on. No more extension leads. Adjustable suction up to 1900w so you don't stich your sander to the ceiling Plus loads of attachments including adapters for most dust extraction connections on tools (I use it on a Ryobi sander) It takes bags for fine dust like sanding and also has a washable filter for less dusty jobs. Plus, I've used it for clearing out drains and all sorts.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

134 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Go on to Ebay and type in Ash vacuum cleaner.
You will get a selection of metal bodied vacuum cleaners which can cope with a bit of hot wood dust and eliminate static as well to avoid sparks.
Also you can clear your fire grate/woood burner out with it.

Baldchap

7,507 posts

91 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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My mate has one of these which is very good and has a power take off so it switches on and off with the tool.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-AdvancedVac-Cleaner...

Marcellus

7,111 posts

218 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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All I can add is to suggest you go for as much power as possible as a little bit more will make a lot of difference.

To save some money I was operating our dust extraction at 95%it was good but we still had some dust which needed help to go up the hose….. we turned it up to 100% and there is no dust left on the tables at all, nor gloves, pencils, papers or anything else not nailed down!

Ok, I appreciate that it’s not a domestic/home workshop environment but it amazed us the difference that last 5% has made.

CO2000

3,177 posts

208 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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If its a small area or light sanding I'd look at doing it with a sanding block, far less dust!

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

134 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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CO2000 said:
If its a small area or light sanding I'd look at doing it with a sanding block, far less dust!
Surely it doesnt matter what method you use - if you remove x amount of material from the wood, then you get x amount of dust.
Agree it won't blow it out of a hole in the end of the sanding block though smile

mike9009

6,918 posts

242 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Our Henry is regularly used for such tasks. When sanding our living room floor, he performed really well and the dust was kept to minimum attached to a belt sander. Quite impressive really.

Sanding the stair rails, I think, is a mighty task - at least ours would be, with spindles, mule posts etc. I would try a paint stripper to begin with even though most chemical strippers are not what they used to be... Then finish off with a mouse sander.....

Mr Squarekins

1,041 posts

61 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Henry. Even if you kill him (which is difficult), you can take him apart and fix him yourself in 10 mins - easy.

Tape some big plastic sheeting to make yourself a dust tent. Wear a mask, work inside the tent. You will be covered, but house remains clean. Done it a few times. Take Henry in and wear ear protection.

loughran

2,731 posts

135 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Mule posts ? I like it.

I'll be borrowing that if you don't mind. smile


Austin_Metro

Original Poster:

1,196 posts

47 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Thanks all. Bought the dust mask as recommended. Still thinking about Henry, Bosch or karacher.


sospan

2,469 posts

221 months

Saturday 28th May 2022
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Strip as much off first then finish with sanding. It’s a choice of dust v chemicals v heat strip debris.
Henry is a good option as it is a useful backup hoover too. Multitool or sander then hand block if needed.
Do a good prep and the finish will be good.