US Supreme court have overturned Roe V Wade

US Supreme court have overturned Roe V Wade

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39,690 posts

195 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo said:
JakeT said:
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Very sad to hear. Land of the free and home of the brave. Unless you’re a woman.
“My body my choice” disappeared last year. I wonder how many of those dismayed at this result cheered on the sacking of those who didn’t desire the injections that were and continue to be pushed?
That's a stupid comparison for many many reasons.


vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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The SC were on a roll:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/23/us...

Effectively allowing everyone to carry a gun in public now.

Good lord, why would anyone want to live there.

Gargamel

14,958 posts

260 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I think some in the US see the Handmaids tale as a desired state for Sexual Equality.

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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This is an illuminating few stories of what it was like before:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/16/fi...

Utter madness. Do the people who make these decisions not have daughters of their own, or are they so hateful they don't care?

MiniMan64

16,867 posts

189 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Gargamel said:
I think some in the US see the Handmaids tale as a desired state for Sexual Equality.
They are edging ever closer.

Do you ever wonder if there’s a reality where Hilary beat Trump? David Milliband swept to centrist power in the UK after beating his brother? And then Brexit never happened? And COVID was a minor setback for China?

Are we just living in the dark alternative reality?

Countdown

39,690 posts

195 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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MiniMan64 said:
Gargamel said:
I think some in the US see the Handmaids tale as a desired state for Sexual Equality.
They are edging ever closer.

Do you ever wonder if there’s a reality where Hilary beat Trump? David Milliband swept to centrist power in the UK after beating his brother? And then Brexit never happened? And COVID was a minor setback for China?

Are we just living in the dark alternative reality?
If you want to see a dark alternative reality I can recommend "Years and years"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_and_Years_(TV_...

MiniMan64

16,867 posts

189 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Countdown said:
MiniMan64 said:
Gargamel said:
I think some in the US see the Handmaids tale as a desired state for Sexual Equality.
They are edging ever closer.

Do you ever wonder if there’s a reality where Hilary beat Trump? David Milliband swept to centrist power in the UK after beating his brother? And then Brexit never happened? And COVID was a minor setback for China?

Are we just living in the dark alternative reality?
If you want to see a dark alternative reality I can recommend "Years and years"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_and_Years_(TV_...
Seen it.

Much like Handmaids, it feels like a roadmap for some elements of our government

Tankrizzo

7,247 posts

192 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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It is frightening how speedily the supposed Land of the Free is going backwards. This is quite unbelievable.

Silverbullet767

10,680 posts

205 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Further cements my view that the USA is the richest third world country in the world.

More guns than people with rampant gun violence prevalent.
No abortion rights.
No free healthcare at point of delivery.

Damage like this will take a lifetime to fix since the supreme court is a lifetime term.

America's fked.

Gweeds

7,822 posts

51 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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A SCOTUS supermajority exactly as the Federalist Society backers wanted. With predictable consequences. And a SCOTUS that is not fit for purpose. A horrible joke with consequences yet to be seen but which will surely be worse that we imagine today.

As Carlin said “it’s called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it”.

Eric Mc

121,782 posts

264 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Silverbullet767 said:
No abortion rights.
I don't think that is what this decision says. Is it not that each state can now make its own decision on abortion?

In other words, the government in Washington has no power over this aspect of law making.

WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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trump has said this will work out the best for everyone....

MiniMan64

16,867 posts

189 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Eric Mc said:
Silverbullet767 said:
No abortion rights.
I don't think that is what this decision says. Is it not that each state can now make its own decision on abortion?

In other words, the government in Washington has no power over this aspect of law making.
Which means if you’re unlucky enough to live in a state where the crazy white bible thumpers are in charge you’re fked. And that’s about 50% of the country.

The other point here is, what are the conservative right going to go after next? Gay marriage? Gay rights?

Funk

26,254 posts

208 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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paulguitar said:
It was inevitable after RBG died and they put that alleged alcoholic rapist into the scotus

This is why I never had any time for people who were amused at trump getting elected. I knew if that ever came to pass America would be monumentally fked, and I am not at all pleased to have been right.
Also note that Trump/GOP packed the SCOTUS with 3 relatively young justices - when appointed, Kavanaugh was 53, Gorsuch was 49 and Coney-Barrett was 48. They're lifetime appointments which means these three will be in-situ for at least another 25-30 years. The Republicans have stacked the SCOTUS deck significantly; what we're seeing now is just the beginning and there'll be worse to come.

Edited by Funk on Friday 24th June 19:09

Eric Mc

121,782 posts

264 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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MiniMan64 said:
Which means if you’re unlucky enough to live in a state where the crazy white bible thumpers are in charge you’re fked. And that’s about 50% of the country.

The other point here is, what are the conservative right going to go after next? Gay marriage? Gay rights?
Of course - but that is a bit like living here in the UK. If you live in Northern Ireland, you have to travel to GB to obtain an abortion.

Sheets Tabuer

18,898 posts

214 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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It's what God would've wanted.

Castrol for a knave

4,640 posts

90 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Eric Mc said:
MiniMan64 said:
Which means if you’re unlucky enough to live in a state where the crazy white bible thumpers are in charge you’re fked. And that’s about 50% of the country.

The other point here is, what are the conservative right going to go after next? Gay marriage? Gay rights?
Of course - but that is a bit like living here in the UK. If you live in Northern Ireland, you have to travel to GB to obtain an abortion.
No you don't. The law was relaxed in 2020, and for a start, it decriminalised abortion. It's not equivalent to mainland, but it's nothing like what is being pushed through in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/04/abor...

It's not 100% there yet, but it is due to the political stasis, rather than a desire to remain in the 19th century.



Edited by Castrol for a knave on Friday 24th June 17:37

vonuber

17,868 posts

164 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Eric Mc said:
Of course - but that is a bit like living here in the UK. If you live in Northern Ireland, you have to travel to GB to obtain an abortion.
Nope. Even NI is ahead of the US.

https://informingchoicesni.org/central-access-poin...

Castrol for a knave

4,640 posts

90 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Whilst it is devolved federally, it's is a lottery. It means for many women, especially poor women who cannot travel out of state (assuming anyone can...)

https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-abortion-...

BoRED S2upid

19,643 posts

239 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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It’s getting to be a bit of a joke the US now. Biden has zero power. Helpless when it comes to gun control.