RE: Peugeot 205 XS | Spotted

RE: Peugeot 205 XS | Spotted

Saturday 25th June 2022

Peugeot 205 XS | Spotted

There are rare, fast Peugeots and then there are rare, fast Peugeots...


Everyone has a Peugeot GTI story of one kind or another, be it with a 106, 205, 306 or maybe even 505; the 208 came good in the end too, for younger enthusiasts. Far fewer of us, though, will fondly recall a Peugeot XS of any kind. Because where hot hatches are concerned, a GTI badge matters and power is typically priority number one. You only need look at the debate that continues about which 205 GTI is best for proof of that.

For the dedicated few, however - i.e. for those who really know their French fancies - a 205 XS like this is a special little car. Back when a junior performance variant was required, something a little easier to buy and insure than the 1.6- and 1.9-litre icons, Peugeot did rather more than just stick some decals on a 1.4. The XS got a twin-carb version of the 1,360cc XY engine, meaning 80hp when a normal 1.4 made do with a puny 71; the gear ratios of the five-speed gearbox were closer to take full advantage, and it was even lighter than a regular 205, at 820kg. All Peugeot 205s were entertaining, and the GTIs undoubtedly deserve their recognition, but the XS was no lesser sibling.

Which is why, back when they were cheap, XS 205s were used for sprints, hillclimbs, rallies - whatever four-wheeled jape they were eligible for, basically, because they were great fun and readily available. “I bought my one for £300” said PHer cknotty in this thread about the XS. He added: It had done a fair few road rallies - 12 - and the rear beam somehow wasn't knackered! Mind you, was on its 2nd engine and 3rd gearbox by the time it got to me”. Which isn't an unusual tale of XS ownership back in the good old days.

It makes this 205 especially rare, particularly as a Phase 1 car; the Phase 2 cars used the later TU engine that is typically preferred. But there’s no such thing as an undesirable XS, whether XY or TU powered, and this looks a fine example of the breed. It’s only had three owners in 35 years, and covered just 80,000 miles in that time as well.

It’s charmingly standard, as well, right down to the Philips radio and steel wheels; even the XS decals have survived three and half decades in Britain. The advert suggests some recent expenditure, too, including an overhaul in 2020 (new Bilstein dampers, brakes, top mounts, springs, exhaust) as well a new fuel pump, rebuilt carbs, fresh seat foam and service this year. Finding a 205 XS at all is notable in 2022; one in this condition is extraordinary.

Which, of course, means nobody will be paying £300 for it. Or even £3,000. The XS is for sale at £8,990, a number that will likely surprise even in the current climate. Because most of us just remember the XS being cheap and fun, then forgetting about it because none were around, only to return to one offered at the best part of £10k. That said it remains cheaper than comparable GTIs (and even later 106s now) as well as likely rarer than all of them, too. And carbs are cool, right? With the recent work completed this XS ought to be ready and raring to go for whatever adventures its new owner has planned. Just make sure the stories to be told in future aren’t the usual fast and French ones - spoiling something this good would be a tragedy.


SPECIFICATION | PEUGEOT 205 XS

Engine: 1,360cc, four-cyl, twin carburettors
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 80@5,800rpm
Torque (lb ft): 81@2,800rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1987
Recorded mileage: 80,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £8,990

See the original advert here

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S3C63

Original Poster:

7 posts

47 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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My 2nd car was a 5yo Phase 2 in red. Epic on Welsh and Cornish B roads - not much could keep up with it on the twistiest when driven on the limit. A very pure driving experience and very rewarding when driven hard. Saw on YouTube that Chris Harris had a brace of them a few years back, to which I have a knowing nod. Looked around to see if I could get one for my son as his first car (and to relive my youth) but they’re like hens teeth. Settled for a Suzuki Swift Sport, which is similar in many ways - lightweight. short ratio box, needs reving out to get the best of it but, comfortingly, has airbags!

S3C63

Original Poster:

7 posts

47 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I should also add that the steering is sublime on these, in terms of feel and feedback - uncorrupted by assistance and wide tyres. Got the juices flowing ahead of the FOS!

86wasagoodyear

396 posts

96 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Fabulous real world fun. Get it bought & out on the roads.

Spiderrich

26 posts

87 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Fantastic cars. I had a 1985 GT in gold as my second car back in ‘91 - basically a four door XS which is even rarer. After a couple of years I traded up to a 205 Roland Garros, an XS in metallic green and white leather. A GTI was still slightly out of reach although my elder sister had a 1.9 and my Dad had a 1.6 at the time. Such good memories of the 205…I’ve still got the Haynes manual somewhere…

TdM-GTV

290 posts

217 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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My 205 was a hoot. I had a lesser SX but it was a wonderful drive never the less. My sister's boyfriend at the time had an XS. I remember it looking beefier then the pictures showing just how corrupted your memory can be!

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Aged 18/19 I had an identical ‘87 XS (E36 DFT) around 1994 and it remains my favourite car. So much fun to drive, I put tens of thousands of miles in it before replacing it with a Mk1 Golf 3 years later and giving it to the girlfriend at the time.

Brilliant things, so nice to see one again, it brings back great memories.

mekondelta

683 posts

260 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Overtaking a car at night then too hot into a bend followed by heel/toe-ing down though to second gear into a roundabout and drifting as I turned right was one of my unforgettable favourite driving moments in my 205XS. Loved that car and what a gearbox and pedals. Everything you wanted in a drivers car. Fast enough to have fun and not fast enough to get or tempt you into real trouble. Thanks Peugeot!

mooseracer

1,886 posts

170 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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A phase 1 XS is a rare thing indeed. This one sold last year for just over 4k.

littleT

11 posts

205 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I had a red 205xs with the tu engine. Loads of fun. Very very light.

JimmyD78

59 posts

42 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I had a 205 XS when I was at uni, cracking little car! My previous car was a AXGT which I think had the same engine/gearbox? The 205 definitely felt more robust and grown up though - punting it down country lanes always raised a smile. Think I paid £750 for it…

ballans

790 posts

105 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Would have been the very early 90’s and I had a 1986 Nova SR. Loved it and thought it was the best car in the world. A mate turned up with a phase 2 XS and I came out with all the lazy French car stereotypes.
We swapped cars and once back I had to eat a lot of humble pie. The ride, handling and general drive of the XS was miles ahead of the Nova.
I don’t do lazy stereotypes anymore.

This one is very tempting but I think I would try and find a phase 2 as the dash is quite a bit nicer.

Baldchap

7,634 posts

92 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I know prices have gone up across the board, and I don't want to be that guy, but I'm sorry I have to:

If someone pays £9k for this they're a fking idiot.

There. I said it.

My mate had one when we were in 6th form. It was ok.

Caddyshack

10,799 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Is it a twin carb or a twin choke carb?

Retro.74

202 posts

23 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Came close to buying one in my teens, but went over with deposit and it had sold. As above the TU came with same 85HP engine as the even lighter AX GT but they carried a much bigger price premium, and the XS wasn't quite as known, due to the GTi variants.
Good warm hatch back in the day, but that was about 35 years ago, not sure why anyone would pay that today though.

Edited by Retro.74 on Saturday 25th June 09:42

gl20

1,123 posts

149 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Test drove a new one when my Mum was looking to replace her Nova. Night and day difference in handling and general spriteliness. Ended up with an Escort frown but did get myself a 1.9 a few years later.

Portofino

4,284 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Rose tinted monocles much. Why anyone would buy this at this price I don’t know.

Sure it’s fun like a lot of eighties cars made out of, in this case choux pastry & bacofoil, but after the honeymoon period all your left with is humdrum mid range eighties run about.

BFleming

3,606 posts

143 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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My second-ever car was a 1985 205 GT, replacing a 1980 Golf 1.5 GLS. The Peugeot was so much faster & more nimble, but it wasn't without its faults. I bought it, and a month later the CV joints both started knocking. Turns out the receipt that was in the handover pack for CV joints was nothing to do with this car. The reverse lights used to stay on irrespective what position the key was in - cue an often flat battery. The ignition barrel was tempramental, and possibly led to those aforementioned occasional battery drains. There was so much play in the steering rack that I eventually bought a new one to swap into it, but it was from a newer model, so the steering column was different. I needed to source and fit the lower column, which took some time. The choke spindle was so worn that it used to stick, making cold starts difficult. Cue opening the bonnet & setting the choke spindle manually. It went off fine mind. The rear left brake caliper stuck on one pan-European trip, but it seemed ok once it cooled down. The electric front windows packed up, so in went keep-fit window regulators. But the biggest achilles heel was the gearbox / gearchange. At the end of the car's life it was dreadful - so much wear & broadly no syncromesh left anywhere.
I miss the go-kart-like precision of a 205, but the 309 GTI Phase 2 that replaced the 205 was a better car in every way.


Edited by BFleming on Saturday 25th June 11:44

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Portofino said:
Rose tinted monocles much. Why anyone would buy this at this price I don’t know.

Sure it’s fun like a lot of eighties cars made out of, in this case choux pastry & bacofoil, but after the honeymoon period all your left with is humdrum mid range eighties run about.
Eh? Plenty of reasons someone may buy this. Far more fun/communicative/engaging than pretty much any modern FWD car being one.

HorneyMX5

5,309 posts

150 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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My driving instructor has a silver one these, pretty ace for a learner car. Strangely never actually owned a pug having learnt to drive in one though.

MightyBadger

1,962 posts

50 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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What a great little car. Always wanted one of these but ended up with a 309 Sri, still fun though just not as fun as this lovely XS. Good price too.