Trans woman convicted rapist sent to female prison
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Biggy Stardust said:
You won't engage people who query your claims of discriminatory oppression? Groovy. I can see how supporting such claims would be wearisome.
Have a nice day.
When you have done the same sHave a nice day.
t 100 times, you can't be arsed with #101 no matter how valid and legit it is. Clockwork Cupcake said:
Thanks for your support in this post despite you explicitly distancing yourself from trans people in your previous post
I also have "huge sympathy" for you but I will be keeping my back against the wall. Nah just joking. LOL
I think you've misunderstood where I stand on all of this. I distance myself from the whole LGBT community stuff, that doesn't mean I don't or won't stand up for trans people. I also have "huge sympathy" for you but I will be keeping my back against the wall. Nah just joking. LOL
I suppose my stance is quite complex but don't for a second think I'm transphobic or that I wouldn't have your back, I absolutely would.
bobbo89 said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Thanks for your support in this post despite you explicitly distancing yourself from trans people in your previous post
I also have "huge sympathy" for you but I will be keeping my back against the wall. Nah just joking. LOL
I think you've misunderstood where I stand on all of this. I distance myself from the whole LGBT community stuff, that doesn't mean I don't or won't stand up for trans people. I also have "huge sympathy" for you but I will be keeping my back against the wall. Nah just joking. LOL
I suppose my stance is quite complex but don't for a second think I'm transphobic or that I wouldn't have your back, I absolutely would.
We won't agree Dylan is nuts, an we won't agree that trans people do have rights. But I hope we do agree that trans people should have rights should be treated with dignity and respect and just like some white people are toxic so some LGBTQIA+ supporters do more harm than good Jeffery Marsh looking at you
Kes Arevo said:
I said he ain't fringe.
On what are you basing that assertion? Are you assuming YouTube views or TikTok followers are evidence if how mainstem someone's views are? If so, 
Gecko1978 said:
The video is Dylan talking about their crotch bulge while shopping. They refere to women's genitalia as a barbie pocket. They then sings / raps about women with bulges while wearing tight leather shorts which highlight the bulge.
Okay...so a procession of stuff that's clearly designed to manufacture attention (from which they financially profit), some of which may or may not be satire, but you've decided somehow represents a microcosm of everything that is "trans" because lots of people watch it on TikTok?Good god, you continue to prove my point.
HM-2 said:
Kes Arevo said:
I said he ain't fringe.
On what are you basing that assertion? Are you assuming YouTube views or TikTok followers are evidence if how mainstem someone's views are? If so, As I said in my post, Dylan had a sit down with the president of the United States of America.
That ain't fringe.
I never mentioned YouTube viewers, or tiktok followers.
Edited by Kes Arevo on Sunday 19th March 18:20
Clockwork Cupcake said:
When you have done the same st 100 times, you can't be arsed with #101 no matter how valid and legit it is.
That which is claimed without evidence can be dismissed with the same lack of evidence.t 100 times, you can't be arsed with #101 no matter how valid and legit it is. Everyone has the same rights, nobody's rights are diminished due to any form of minority status. This includes yours, despite your unevidenced protestations to the contrary. I consider this viewpoint to be valid & legitimate, as well as perfectly reasonable.
Biggy Stardust said:
That which is claimed without evidence can be dismissed with the same lack of evidence.
I don't owe you anything, mate. You are free to do your own research. As I said, I am sick of this merry-go-round and I'm no longer going to spoon-feed people like you. Your demands on me are falling on deaf ears because I can't be arsed any more.
You are #101 and I am done.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Sunday 19th March 19:57
Clockwork Cupcake said:
bobbo89 said:
As for hate crimes going up and acceptance being on the decline, have you asked yourself why that may be? Might be the same reason people like me completely disassociate with the whole LGBT community stuff.
Yes, you have your rights now so why give a fk about the rights of others. We get it. Move on. Clockwork Cupcake said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
You never answer questions directly.
With you there is no point; you ignore any reply and tell the poster what you think they said. What they actually said is irrelevant. In that (now famous) thread - when asked "if somebody born male, who commits sexual assaults on women, gets sentenced to prison for raping a woman, should they go to a male or female prison" someone famously resorted to "i don't believe in prison"
It's these levels of avoidance when asking basic questions.
Would you like a stab at (directly) answering the question above or will you just continue to say people don't listen to the answers?
RobbieTheTruth said:
Because the answers are so deliberately vague.
In that (now famous) thread - when asked "if somebody born male, who commits sexual assaults on women, gets sentenced to prison for raping a woman, should they go to a male or female prison" someone famously resorted to "i don't believe in prison"
It's these levels of avoidance when asking basic questions.
Would you like a stab at (directly) answering the question above or will you just continue to say people don't listen to the answers?
Given my previous experience with you, I will respectfully decline to engage with you. In that (now famous) thread - when asked "if somebody born male, who commits sexual assaults on women, gets sentenced to prison for raping a woman, should they go to a male or female prison" someone famously resorted to "i don't believe in prison"
It's these levels of avoidance when asking basic questions.
Would you like a stab at (directly) answering the question above or will you just continue to say people don't listen to the answers?
Make of that as you will. If you want to crow some kind of a "win" then I gladly give that to you.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
Because the answers are so deliberately vague.
In that (now famous) thread - when asked "if somebody born male, who commits sexual assaults on women, gets sentenced to prison for raping a woman, should they go to a male or female prison" someone famously resorted to "i don't believe in prison"
It's these levels of avoidance when asking basic questions.
Would you like a stab at (directly) answering the question above or will you just continue to say people don't listen to the answers?
Given my previous experience with you, I will respectfully decline to engage with you. In that (now famous) thread - when asked "if somebody born male, who commits sexual assaults on women, gets sentenced to prison for raping a woman, should they go to a male or female prison" someone famously resorted to "i don't believe in prison"
It's these levels of avoidance when asking basic questions.
Would you like a stab at (directly) answering the question above or will you just continue to say people don't listen to the answers?
Make of that as you will. If you want to crow some kind of a "win" then I gladly give that to you.
You can't answer simple questions - not designed to 'trick' you.
Why should anyone be taken seriously on this subject if you're terrified to answer the question "should someone born male who commits multiple sexual assaults on women go to a female prison if they identify as female".
You keep saying people twist your answer.
But you can't actually answer.
RobbieTheTruth said:
It's fully expected.
You can't answer simple questions - not designed to 'trick' you.
Why should anyone be taken seriously on this subject if you're terrified to answer the question "should someone born male who commits multiple sexual assaults on women go to a female prison if they identify as female".
You keep saying people twist your answer.
But you can't actually answer.
I have respectfully declined to engage with you but you are still trying to goad me. You can't answer simple questions - not designed to 'trick' you.
Why should anyone be taken seriously on this subject if you're terrified to answer the question "should someone born male who commits multiple sexual assaults on women go to a female prison if they identify as female".
You keep saying people twist your answer.
But you can't actually answer.
You are a deeply unpleasant person and I want nothing to do with you. Crow your "win" over me if you must
Clockwork Cupcake said:
RobbieTheTruth said:
It's fully expected.
You can't answer simple questions - not designed to 'trick' you.
Why should anyone be taken seriously on this subject if you're terrified to answer the question "should someone born male who commits multiple sexual assaults on women go to a female prison if they identify as female".
You keep saying people twist your answer.
But you can't actually answer.
I have respectfully declined to engage with you but you are still trying to goad me. You can't answer simple questions - not designed to 'trick' you.
Why should anyone be taken seriously on this subject if you're terrified to answer the question "should someone born male who commits multiple sexual assaults on women go to a female prison if they identify as female".
You keep saying people twist your answer.
But you can't actually answer.
You are a deeply unpleasant person and I want nothing to do with you. Crow your "win" over me if you must
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HM-2 said:
Okay...so a procession of stuff that's clearly designed to manufacture attention (from which they financially profit), some of which may or may not be satire, but you've decided somehow represents a microcosm of everything that is "trans" because lots of people watch it on TikTok?
Good god, you continue to prove my point.
You said you had never heard of them and would not click on a link through lack of time yet spent longer writing a reply.Good god, you continue to prove my point.
You say it's to generate clicks where as Dylan told the president of the United States he represented trans people. So when the world's most powerful man meets a trans person to discuss trans issues it's not a leap of faith to say that person is a trans representative.
Troll away but the cause you champion has cheer leaders like Dylan an Jeffery Marsh and they are crotociscsed by other prominent trans people (Blair White, Catlyn Jenner because of the message they promote.
bobbo89 said:
I think you've misunderstood where I stand on all of this. I distance myself from the whole LGBT community stuff, that doesn't mean I don't or won't stand up for trans people.
I suppose my stance is quite complex but don't for a second think I'm transphobic or that I wouldn't have your back, I absolutely would.
Place your self in a hostile country as a gay man. Somewhere that is socially and legally hostile to you being gay. It’s a long list of possible countries - Jamaica perhaps. Or the UAE. Lots of popular UK holiday destinations. I suppose my stance is quite complex but don't for a second think I'm transphobic or that I wouldn't have your back, I absolutely would.
You see how in that context you would take your allies where you found them?
It is people in that situation that fought for your rights, trans people were well represented.
When I think and talk about LGBT rights, the community and so on it is with global consideration. Those fights are still happening and trans people are there fighting alongside the rest of the queer community.
Gecko1978 said:
HM-2 said:
Okay...so a procession of stuff that's clearly designed to manufacture attention (from which they financially profit), some of which may or may not be satire, but you've decided somehow represents a microcosm of everything that is "trans" because lots of people watch it on TikTok?
Good god, you continue to prove my point.
You said you had never heard of them and would not click on a link through lack of time yet spent longer writing a reply.Good god, you continue to prove my point.
You say it's to generate clicks where as Dylan told the president of the United States he represented trans people. So when the world's most powerful man meets a trans person to discuss trans issues it's not a leap of faith to say that person is a trans representative.
Troll away but the cause you champion has cheer leaders like Dylan an Jeffery Marsh and they are crotociscsed by other prominent trans people (Blair White, Catlyn Jenner because of the message they promote.
Gecko1978 said:
where as Dylan told the president of the United States he represented trans people.
Ah yes, and anyone who claims they're representative of an entire group must be? Gecko1978 said:
So when the world's most powerful man meets a trans person to discuss trans issues it's not a leap of faith to say that person is a trans representative.
I didn't say they weren't a trans representative, I said I struggled to see how they representative of trans people as a whole. A point you seem very eager to not actually address, instead composing counterarguments against things I haven't actually said. Again. Gecko1978 said:
Troll away
Persistent straw men and misrepresentation from you, and yet you have the audacity to label me a troll. The lack of self awareness is astounding. Gecko1978 said:
but the cause you champion has cheer leaders like Dylan an Jeffery Marsh
So you keep asserting, though on what basis I still cannot fathom. Gecko1978 said:
crotociscsed
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