Lee Anderson MP

[survivalist]

pablo said:

Gweeds said:

Brave Fart said:

With respect, dismissing him as a 'clown' is a bit simplistic.

It really isn't - because literally everything he says is just absolute bks and designed purely to fan the flames of pointless culture wars, and no doubt secure a nice little gig on the likes of GB News once his career is an MP is over (which could well be 2024 judging by the local reaction).

This, the Tories know the only hope they have of winning the next GE is to start a smear campaign to rival Trump’s. They have no policies, no legacy (worth using), no talent, so it’s resorted to stoking a culture war we’ve already seen through….

The best bit is the Donors and key supporters have seen through it too

Anderson bless him, is the sacrificial lamb in all this. He spouts the nonsense so the likes of Braverman, Clevrly et al are kept “clean”. He throws the red meat out and takes all the public flack from the opposition. In two years time he’ll defect to Reform or some other party, with a two hour show on GBeebies as his reward…

Edited by pablo on Tuesday 14th February 13:44

Pretty sure the ‘No policies’ and ‘No talent’ comments apply equally to the opposition. Assuming they get in, the next government will be just as useless as the current one.

[Brave Fart]

Blue62 said:

I posted a selective part of his voting record to highlight that he's not really a working class hero. For reasons unexplained, you expect his voting record to align directly with the Reform manifesto while he's a sitting Tory MP and somehow you think you're making a point. In my opinion his promotion is purely to appease the more right wing elements of the party and an indication that they are worried about Reform UK, that's all. I haven't asserted that's he's a clown at all, but regardless, you've reached the conclusion that because opposition parties have not welcomed his appointment he is therefore not a clown. I think you should reflect.

Ah, OK, so when you gave specific examples of Lee Anderson's votes that are not Reform policy, then said he was a "sop to the Reform element", you didn't really want your examples to be taken literally. Got it. Of course I don't expect his voting record to align with Reform, but thanks for telling me what I expect.

And I said that "some" people had asserted that Anderson is a clown. For the record, I don't think he is a clown at all; I rather like him and think he's one of the good guys. I've reached that conclusion based I what I see and hear him say. If you think you know how I reach conclusions better than I do, then you have an incredible psychic gift, one that could be very valuable. Or perhaps you're just being patronising. I think you should reflect.

[Ivan stewart]

Mark-C said:

And these two posts are a good example of why politics in this country is an absolute shambles - people on different sides of a random argument just shouting names at each other.

We're screwed as a country if this is how we continue - neither party or the system that sustains them is fit for purpose

That’s why most civilised countries have gone to PR

[Blue62]

Brave Fart said:

Ah, OK, so when you gave specific examples of Lee Anderson's votes that are not Reform policy, then said he was a "sop to the Reform element", you didn't really want your examples to be taken literally. Got it. Of course I don't expect his voting record to align with Reform, but thanks for telling me what I expect.

And I said that "some" people had asserted that Anderson is a clown. For the record, I don't think he is a clown at all; I rather like him and think he's one of the good guys. I've reached that conclusion based I what I see and hear him say. If you think you know how I reach conclusions better than I do, then you have an incredible psychic gift, one that could be very valuable. Or perhaps you're just being patronising. I think you should reflect.

I can see comprehension is not a strong point, so I’ll try to make it easy. The voting examples were to highlight that Anderson is not the working class hero he pretends to be, they were not to prove that he’s a ‘sop to Reform’, hope that’s clear now. I do want the examples to be taken literally because they underscore the point, hope that’s clear now.

With regard to his promotion I simply opined that I think it’s a sop to Reform, I may be wrong, but it’s just my opinion.

You stated that people think he’s a clown and suggested that the opposition to his promotion is proof that he’s not a clown, that’s some twisted logic. I don’t think he’s fit to be in government and a lot of people would agree, even people in his own party have spoken out, something that should at least cause his supporters to reflect.

You’re obviously unable to process any of the points made and judging by your intellectual capacity I’d say you and Lee were made for each other, enjoy it while it lasts.

[JagLover]

Blue62 said:

Hilarious isn't it. They seem to think the working classes identify with him, but one look at his voting record; against raising income tax thresholds, against taxing banks, for increasing VAT and for restricting trade unions would suggest otherwise. There's also the company he keeps. We really don't want people like this anywhere near government, let alone deputy chair, I think its a sop to the Reform element.

Did any Tory MPs vote to raise personal tax allowances in 2021?

It is party policy to freeze personal allowances for both the starting rate of basic and higher rate tax until 2026 and it is a rather big deal to vote against your own party's budget, which is where this measure is contained.

I don't know much about him apart from his food bank comments but criticising someone for voting for their party's budget is a little strange. He also voted for increasing the Corporation Tax rate to 25% for larger companies, as that was in the budget as well, does that suddenly make him a working class hero again?.

[Blue62]

JagLover said:

Did any Tory MPs vote to raise personal tax allowances in 2021?

It is party policy to freeze personal allowances for both the starting rate of basic and higher rate tax until 2026 and it is a rather big deal to vote against your own party's budget, which is where this measure is contained.

I don't know much about him apart from his food bank comments but criticising someone for voting for their party's budget is a little strange. He also voted for increasing the Corporation Tax rate to 25% for larger companies, as that was in the budget as well, does that suddenly make him a working class hero again?.

As you say, you don’t know much about Anderson, though you’ve had a good look at his voting record. He is the Tory for the working classes, spearheading the assault on the red wall, that’s how they, and he, set themselves up. His voting record is but one element, but as you’re obviously interested in him now, check out some of the revelations in Private Eye, it will give you a better idea of what you’re talking about.

[Gweeds]

Today he's claiming his Dad worked down the mines 7 days a week, despite multiple miners telling him that never, ever happened.

He has of course turned off the replies to that tweet because he knows it's bks.

[anonymoususer]

Gweeds said:

Today he's claiming his Dad worked down the mines 7 days a week, despite multiple miners telling him that never, ever happened.

He has of course turned off the replies to that tweet because he knows it's bks.

It's very easy to get confused.
I think he is being treated appallingly and personally I hope he doesn't throw in the towel with the stress of it all.

[minimoog]

anonymoususer said:

It's very easy to get confused.
I think he is being treated appallingly and personally I hope he doesn't throw in the towel with the stress of it all.

He hobnobs with white supremacists. He's a .

[Randy Winkman]

But at least he's got some ideas on how the Tories stand a chance of winning the next general election now that EU Exit is done and Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn are gone.

"At the next election we haven’t got those three things so we’ll have to think of something else. It’ll probably be a mix of culture wars and trans debate.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee...

[TTwiggy]

Randy Winkman said:

But at least he's got some ideas on how the Tories stand a chance of winning the next general election now that EU Exit is done and Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn are gone.

"At the next election we haven’t got those three things so we’ll have to think of something else. It’ll probably be a mix of culture wars and trans debate.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee...

O/T but that's a really poorly written article. When you (unfortunately) have two subjects in the same piece who share a surname you really need to make clear distinctions between them.

[Randy Winkman]

TTwiggy said:

Randy Winkman said:

But at least he's got some ideas on how the Tories stand a chance of winning the next general election now that EU Exit is done and Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn are gone.

"At the next election we haven’t got those three things so we’ll have to think of something else. It’ll probably be a mix of culture wars and trans debate.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lee...

O/T but that's a really poorly written article. When you (unfortunately) have two subjects in the same piece who share a surname you really need to make clear distinctions between them.

It is. Fair point, but unless I 'm mistaken it is Lee Anderson that wants the "culture war" stuff and it's Iain Anderson that's moving from Tory to Labour and doesn't?

[Stan the Bat]

anonymoususer said:

Gweeds said:

Today he's claiming his Dad worked down the mines 7 days a week, despite multiple miners telling him that never, ever happened.

He has of course turned off the replies to that tweet because he knows it's bks.

It's very easy to get confused.
I think he is being treated appallingly and personally I hope he doesn't throw in the towel with the stress of it all.

[Randy Winkman]

Stan the Bat said:

anonymoususer said:

Gweeds said:

Today he's claiming his Dad worked down the mines 7 days a week, despite multiple miners telling him that never, ever happened.

He has of course turned off the replies to that tweet because he knows it's bks.

It's very easy to get confused.
I think he is being treated appallingly and personally I hope he doesn't throw in the towel with the stress of it all.

Best ignored, I think.

[rscott]

Someone's let him near Twitter again

https://twitter.com/LeeAndersonMP_/status/16280645...

"Slowly But Surely. This information is not available on the MSM as they hate to see our country fighting back. Me? I love it "



The replies are full of people pointing out that his image is comprised solely of quotes from the MSM

[anonymoususer]

rscott said:

Someone's let him near Twitter again

https://twitter.com/LeeAndersonMP_/status/16280645...

"Slowly But Surely. This information is not available on the MSM as they hate to see our country fighting back. Me? I love it "



The replies are full of people pointing out that his image is comprised solely of quotes from the MSM

An excellent tactic that shows just how well Lee is doing.
He is turning the tables on ignorant main stream media and showing them for the shallow types they are
As Corporal Jones would say "they don't like it up 'em"

I say jolly well done Lee and hopefully you can become a major player in the next Conservative or Government of National Unity that is elected next year

[PurpleTurtle]

Jonmx said:

Blimey, this thread shows up the white collar, Home Counties Guardian Readers on PH. Amazed at how many folks resort to ad hominem attacks on the guy for simply expressing views and opinions that differ to their own.
Lee worked for Citizens Advice for 10 years and as is well known, as a miner. For years he was a Labour supporter and councillor. I doubt many of the Fairy soft handed folks on here have comparable resumes. The comments and views on this thread remind me of Lady Nugee's White Van Man tweet; snobbery at it's worst. Conversely, the Jared O' Mara thread only made it to two pages and was full of desperate whataboutery in relation to the Conservatives rather than condemnation of the despicable convicted criminal.

I’m a white collar Home Counties Guardian Reader, but I’m not a huge lover of tofu.

I also started life as a Brummie, the son of a man dragged up in post war poverty, one of 10 children to a widowed single mum in a council house where they didn’t have a pot to piss in, had to steal coal for the fire and used to have to cut the mould off the bread before toasting it, so I hope such a harsh background is worthy of somehow proving my working class origins. My dad just educated himself out of that, and pointed me in the direction of The Guardian for some educated journalism.

Not really sure why people in support of 30p keep on banging the drum of ‘he was a miner’. So what? Hundreds of other blokes in Ashfield who left school at the same time as him were too, it’s a (former) mining community, that’s what folk did, went down t’pit, if they didn’t have any other, better paying options.

It would be perfectly possible for him to be the kind of earthy man of the people type politicians that you hold him up as, without him spouting a load of utter bks on a regular basis. If he did that he might, just might, have an ounce of credibility, but every time he appears on TV (and boy, does he love that), it’s as if there’s a hydraulic mining ram jacking his gob open so he can fit both of his hobnail boots in it.

Edited by PurpleTurtle on Thursday 23 February 07:24

[bitchstewie]

Nice little distraction though isn't he.

https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1627027530...

[minimoog]

anonymoususer said:

An excellent tactic that shows just how well Lee is doing.
He is turning the tables on ignorant main stream media and showing them for the shallow types they are
As Corporal Jones would say "they don't like it up 'em"

I say jolly well done Lee and hopefully you can become a major player in the next Conservative or Government of National Unity that is elected next year

No spittle left unlicked by our Anon here.

[Escort3500]

minimoog said:

anonymoususer said:

An excellent tactic that shows just how well Lee is doing.
He is turning the tables on ignorant main stream media and showing them for the shallow types they are
As Corporal Jones would say "they don't like it up 'em"

I say jolly well done Lee and hopefully you can become a major player in the next Conservative or Government of National Unity that is elected next year

No spittle left unlicked by our Anon here.

Please don’t encourage the resident troll