Public emergency alert - being sent to your phone

Public emergency alert - being sent to your phone

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turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Bill said:
Last Visit said:
Exactly that. The ability to do so has been in phones for ages.
I'll leave it on for now, seems a reasonable idea and too soon to make an informed opinion on how it will actually be used in practice.

I don't see the whole thing as life changing.
You realise where you've posted this??!!? eek
A location which includes info on how it went badly wrong elsewhere, giving evidence on which to form an opinion (if it wasn't known beforehand, as if it wasn't entirely predictable)?

dvs_dave

8,612 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Getragdogleg said:
dvs_dave said:
The man, the taxpayer, the nanny state, grrrrrr! It’s ok petal, you can just turn it off.
I have, and guess what chicken licken, the sky won't fall because I have.
Good. Your rights, freedoms, and liberties remain just as intact. The man wont tread on you.

monkfish1

11,034 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Any chance someone can enlighten me on how to turn this meaningless drivel off?

Android phone. Gobe to settings,notifications. Im not seeing anything relevant?

Dave.

7,358 posts

253 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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monkfish1 said:
Any chance someone can enlighten me on how to turn this meaningless drivel off?

Android phone. Gobe to settings,notifications. Im not seeing anything relevant?
Just search settings for emergency alerts

JuanCarlosFandango

7,789 posts

71 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Why is everything a conspiracy theory? No conspiracy needed here. The same sort of lying toads who stirred up the covid panic will have an extra lever with which to scare the public. That large section of the public who are eager to have something to panic about will have something else to panic about.

turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Why is everything a conspiracy theory? No conspiracy needed here. The same sort of lying toads who stirred up the covid panic will have an extra lever with which to scare the public. That large section of the public who are eager to have something to panic about will have something else to panic about.
Who mentioned a conspiracy, apart from your good self? Where did the 'everything' exaggeration come from?!

From posts so far disagreeing with the idea, it's a mix of people noting that this is initially an unrequested imposition, therefore a waste of time and public money, this government like most others is incompetent (so we can expect snafus) and is pursuing its own agenda via various convenient vehicles, and represents a view of government as interfering to promote dependence and change behaviour which is what interfering governments and their supporters think is fine, others disagree. That's about it.

monkfish1

11,034 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Dave. said:
monkfish1 said:
Any chance someone can enlighten me on how to turn this meaningless drivel off?

Android phone. Gobe to settings,notifications. Im not seeing anything relevant?
Just search settings for emergency alerts
Who knew you could search in settings!

Anyway, i did, but theres no option to turn it off, just change the length and turn on / off vibrate.

S600BSB

4,582 posts

106 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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Odd day to do it? London marathon.

dudleybloke

19,803 posts

186 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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S600BSB said:
Odd day to do it? London marathon.
Yes, an "odd day".

smile

JuanCarlosFandango

7,789 posts

71 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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turbobloke said:
Who mentioned a conspiracy, apart from your good self? Where did the 'everything' exaggeration come from?!

From posts so far disagreeing with the idea, it's a mix of people noting that this is initially an unrequested imposition, therefore a waste of time and public money, this government like most others is incompetent (so we can expect snafus) and is pursuing its own agenda via various convenient vehicles, and represents a view of government as interfering to promote dependence and change behaviour which is what interfering governments and their supporters think is fine, others disagree. That's about it.
No, it's the supporters who seem obsessed with conspiracy theories. It's their stock response.

Ridgemont

6,548 posts

131 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
turbobloke said:
Who mentioned a conspiracy, apart from your good self? Where did the 'everything' exaggeration come from?!

From posts so far disagreeing with the idea, it's a mix of people noting that this is initially an unrequested imposition, therefore a waste of time and public money, this government like most others is incompetent (so we can expect snafus) and is pursuing its own agenda via various convenient vehicles, and represents a view of government as interfering to promote dependence and change behaviour which is what interfering governments and their supporters think is fine, others disagree. That's about it.
No, it's the supporters who seem obsessed with conspiracy theories. It's their stock response.
Until the way David Halpern’s BIT was brought into play during Covid I suspect you might have had a point. However the way that that has played out has left an awful lot of people highly sceptical about governmental intentions, not least reinforced by that cretin Hancock’s leaked WhatsApp messages (‘let’s scare the pants off them’) indicating an utterly cavalier and frankly reckless use of the various tools that government has to influence public behaviour.

Either way I’ve set settings to stun/none. But as Turbo notes it seems an utterly futile use of public resources. Those that want to be disruptively spammed about an incoming 2 inches of snow may sign up. I suspect they may have their ears glued to the TV for incoming Armageddon anyway. People the government may actually want to ‘influence’ will probably disable the setting anyway.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,789 posts

71 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Ridgemont said:
Until the way David Halpern’s BIT was brought into play during Covid I suspect you might have had a point. However the way that that has played out has left an awful lot of people highly sceptical about governmental intentions, not least reinforced by that cretin Hancock’s leaked WhatsApp messages (‘let’s scare the pants off them’) indicating an utterly cavalier and frankly reckless use of the various tools that government has to influence public behaviour.

Either way I’ve set settings to stun/none. But as Turbo notes it seems an utterly futile use of public resources. Those that want to be disruptively spammed about an incoming 2 inches of snow may sign up. I suspect they may have their ears glued to the TV for incoming Armageddon anyway. People the government may actually want to ‘influence’ will probably disable the setting anyway.
Oh I agree.

I'm obviously not making my point clearly enough. I don't support this and I don't need to believe it is a conspiracy in order to not support it. It's a stupid idea.

It seems like the default position of some people to say any opposition to this stuff is driven by some wild conspiracy theory.

Ridgemont

6,548 posts

131 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Ridgemont said:
Until the way David Halpern’s BIT was brought into play during Covid I suspect you might have had a point. However the way that that has played out has left an awful lot of people highly sceptical about governmental intentions, not least reinforced by that cretin Hancock’s leaked WhatsApp messages (‘let’s scare the pants off them’) indicating an utterly cavalier and frankly reckless use of the various tools that government has to influence public behaviour.

Either way I’ve set settings to stun/none. But as Turbo notes it seems an utterly futile use of public resources. Those that want to be disruptively spammed about an incoming 2 inches of snow may sign up. I suspect they may have their ears glued to the TV for incoming Armageddon anyway. People the government may actually want to ‘influence’ will probably disable the setting anyway.
Oh I agree.

I'm obviously not making my point clearly enough. I don't support this and I don't need to believe it is a conspiracy in order to not support it. It's a stupid idea.

It seems like the default position of some people to say any opposition to this stuff is driven by some wild conspiracy theory.
beer

Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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The last time this idea was tried a load of people got an album by U2 uploaded to their phones.

Randy Winkman

16,098 posts

189 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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monkfish1 said:
Dave. said:
monkfish1 said:
Any chance someone can enlighten me on how to turn this meaningless drivel off?

Android phone. Gobe to settings,notifications. Im not seeing anything relevant?
Just search settings for emergency alerts
Who knew you could search in settings!

Anyway, i did, but theres no option to turn it off, just change the length and turn on / off vibrate.
Whilst I might well end up turning it off, aren't you interested to find out a bit about how it actually gets used initially? I certainly am and wouldn't dream of turning it off to start with. By the way, I do appreciate you didn't say you were going to switch it off today. smile

KAgantua

3,868 posts

131 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Probably been mentioned before, (Not read the thread) isnt it odd that this is happening at the same time as the Ukraine conflict is heating up?

Protect and Survive v2?
Dont want to alarm the population but.... frown

hotchy

4,468 posts

126 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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I'd switch it off but that'd probably take more effort than this reply. Maybe when it bugs me

FNG

4,172 posts

224 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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i'm keeping it on, be interested to see what the first big scary scare is.

Then once it's told me there's snow coming to London / a storm coming to London / going to get a bit chilly in London because of climate change, I'll turn it off.

Otispunkmeyer

12,580 posts

155 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Not a bad thing IMO as long as its not abused. It can be useful to know certain things but yeah its got to be used sensibly otherwise its going to stray into boy who cried wolf terrirtory.

I've been to a few countries that have this. The last was South Korea. Though they did put through regular "EMERGENCY!" alerts for a handful of covid cases in a city populated by millions. I mean a few hundred cases isn't even a rounding error. Not sure it warranted rather obnoxiously loud alerts! However, they also had ones alerting you to missing people being sighted, criminals on the loose etc. Whilst I was there I had 2 missing persons alerts and then I got one about a stabbing. I mean that kinda thing is useful to know.

Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Monday 20th March 10:14

over_the_hill

3,187 posts

246 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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How selective will it be ?
Warnings of potential floods in Inverness are not that relevant if you live in Croydon.