Public emergency alert - being sent to your phone
Discussion
Sway said:
MYOB said:
surveyor said:
After all, why would you want to know about an emergency situation developing that might affect you? It's a single text message, not a tax return!
If this system was live during covid, how many “emergency” warnings would we have received?I have nothing against warnings for true emergencies, but my opinion is that the Govt will misuse it and send daft stuff such as “Wash hands, mask up and keep your distance” and other silly messages.
Of course, by opting out now, you'll also lose the chance to say 'I told you so' (and then opting out).
For the simple reason that this is this country. Run by our government.
They do such a good job of everything they have a go at dont they?
And you think that all of a sudden, they will exude compentence and use the system properly?
Not going to happen. It will just develop into an unending feed of meaningless drivel into your phone.
No such sysytem has existed until now. Im sure ill cope a touch longer.
Sway said:
There's plenty of quiet competence within this country.
Thinking that everything done is complete crap is so ridiculously defeatist (as well as untrue) it's just daft.
Oh there is, definitely. None of it in government though.Thinking that everything done is complete crap is so ridiculously defeatist (as well as untrue) it's just daft.
If there is, do be so kind as to point me too it. Ive not seen any for a long time now.
Can you imagine this system in the hands of some prick like Hancock, or whoever the next Hancock is?
monkfish1 said:
Sway said:
There's plenty of quiet competence within this country.
Thinking that everything done is complete crap is so ridiculously defeatist (as well as untrue) it's just daft.
Oh there is, definitely. None of it in government though.Thinking that everything done is complete crap is so ridiculously defeatist (as well as untrue) it's just daft.
If there is, do be so kind as to point me too it. I've not seen any for a long time now.
Can you imagine this system in the hands of some prick like Hancock, or whoever the next Hancock is?
This subject is an interesting one, the opinions of the people i know are in line with how I perceive that person would feel about such a system, the ones who cannot see the need the system tend to be practical and can look after themselves, prefer to be left to it in life and have a much more problem solving outlook on it all.
The friends who are less able, cant change a tyre and need to have a man round to do simple jobs seem to think its a great idea and that its going to be good to be informed, the ones who like to be clear on the rules and take no chances, safe people who worry about things.
On the one side you have those who need looking after a bit, and the other the ones who tend to do the looking after.
My Artist neighbour is all for it. He cannot even change a lightbulb in his house and gets the AA out to blow up a tyre, he buys a new push bike every couple of years when the one he has needs a little maintenance, the sort who buys left over tarmac because the nice man told him to.
Quite what he would do with any warning information is beyond me, probably panic about it and ring 999 for help. His art is good though.
Getragdogleg said:
Quite, I think any "quiet competence" being done is in spite of the Govt, and certainly not because of them.
This subject is an interesting one, the opinions of the people i know are in line with how I perceive that person would feel about such a system, the ones who cannot see the need the system tend to be practical and can look after themselves, prefer to be left to it in life and have a much more problem solving outlook on it all.
The friends who are less able, cant change a tyre and need to have a man round to do simple jobs seem to think its a great idea and that its going to be good to be informed, the ones who like to be clear on the rules and take no chances, safe people who worry about things.
On the one side you have those who need looking after a bit, and the other the ones who tend to do the looking after.
My Artist neighbour is all for it. He cannot even change a lightbulb in his house and gets the AA out to blow up a tyre, he buys a new push bike every couple of years when the one he has needs a little maintenance, the sort who buys left over tarmac because the nice man told him to.
Quite what he would do with any warning information is beyond me, probably panic about it and ring 999 for help. His art is good though.
What absolute patronising bThis subject is an interesting one, the opinions of the people i know are in line with how I perceive that person would feel about such a system, the ones who cannot see the need the system tend to be practical and can look after themselves, prefer to be left to it in life and have a much more problem solving outlook on it all.
The friends who are less able, cant change a tyre and need to have a man round to do simple jobs seem to think its a great idea and that its going to be good to be informed, the ones who like to be clear on the rules and take no chances, safe people who worry about things.
On the one side you have those who need looking after a bit, and the other the ones who tend to do the looking after.
My Artist neighbour is all for it. He cannot even change a lightbulb in his house and gets the AA out to blow up a tyre, he buys a new push bike every couple of years when the one he has needs a little maintenance, the sort who buys left over tarmac because the nice man told him to.
Quite what he would do with any warning information is beyond me, probably panic about it and ring 999 for help. His art is good though.
ks.These people you 'know' - they don't actually exist do they?
BabySharkDD said:
I look forward to the virtue signalling on social media.
“I’ve turned on my notifications to save others”
Profile photos stating they’re “fully notified”
Zealots having a tattoo of the emergency app to show their support
I suspect it will mostly be the grumpy old men, like the loads on this thread saying they've turned it off as they cannot cope with a random occasional alert you press one button on your phone to acknowledge - oh the humanity! They've probably pressed as many buttons writing a reply on here as they would have pressed responding to this alert system for the rest of their life. “I’ve turned on my notifications to save others”
Profile photos stating they’re “fully notified”
Zealots having a tattoo of the emergency app to show their support
Getragdogleg said:
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The friends who are less able, cant change a tyre and need to have a man round to do simple jobs seem to think its a great idea and that its going to be good to be informed, the ones who like to be clear on the rules and take no chances, safe people who worry about things.
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I think that is saying more about your social circles and ability to generalise The friends who are less able, cant change a tyre and need to have a man round to do simple jobs seem to think its a great idea and that its going to be good to be informed, the ones who like to be clear on the rules and take no chances, safe people who worry about things.
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My OH openly admits to not knowing where to start with changing a tyre, and hasn't changed a light bulb in the 18yrs I've known her.
But her views on the alerts are almost exactly this:
EmailAddress said:
The whole thing is an oxymoron.
If I can do something about it, it's not important enough to be nominated as an emergency or to be big brother-busting alerted by the government's grubby little paws into my device.
If it is an actual emergency, what the actual fk am I going to do about it!
I'd rather live in ignorance of the apocalypse....
To the point where I was slightly worried she may be frequenting PH If I can do something about it, it's not important enough to be nominated as an emergency or to be big brother-busting alerted by the government's grubby little paws into my device.
If it is an actual emergency, what the actual f
k am I going to do about it!I'd rather live in ignorance of the apocalypse....
(EmailAddress - you don't happen to have spotted spurious asterisks on ketchup bottles have you??).
Getragdogleg said:
This subject is an interesting one, the opinions of the people i know are in line with how I perceive that person would feel about such a system, the ones who cannot see the need the system tend to be practical and can look after themselves, prefer to be left to it in life and have a much more problem solving outlook on it all.
I'd consider myself pretty practical – i've built a car, renovated a house, know how to knock up a roast dinner and can solder my own circuit boards. I'd like to know if there is an emergency, as then i might be able to do something about it. I can't "look after myself" if I don't know what is coming.Nuclear apocalypse - not much to do
Tidal wave hitting the west coast - i want as much warning as possible to get to higher ground
I haven't commented on this thread thus far, as quite frankly this is all a bit 'meh' to me. I fail to see how anyone could get even slightly exercised over this matter one way or the other.
I think the comment below sums it up for me.
If the government use it in an incompetent fashion, or use it too frequently to warn of relatively minor issues then I may just turn it off. I will make my own evaluation once I have experienced it.
This is simply a service to provide information, like the news, or the weather forecast. Some people are behaving like the messages will be a lawful order forced upon them, which they must obey.
I think the comment below sums it up for me.
otolith said:
Aside from the fear of triggering the Covid-radicalised pound shop Kaczynskis, it's hard to see how any developed country could justify not having this facility, nor why anyone sane would care that they do. If they cry wolf, it will get turned off.
Overall, I feel that things like this are fine in principle. Providing your citizens with information is part of the role of a government. I'm comfortable leaving it switched on and simply see what happens. If it is used on rare occasions to warn of impeding danger to life, or extreme weather, or other such things, then fine, I'm happy to receive those messages. I can then make my own decisions about what to do or not do with that information.If the government use it in an incompetent fashion, or use it too frequently to warn of relatively minor issues then I may just turn it off. I will make my own evaluation once I have experienced it.
This is simply a service to provide information, like the news, or the weather forecast. Some people are behaving like the messages will be a lawful order forced upon them, which they must obey.
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