PCP Settlement Advice

PCP Settlement Advice

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lemonslap

Original Poster:

962 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Hello all, following the sudden engine failure on my Mazda 2 back in January I had to make an emergency car purchase using PCP. I’m not one for using finance normally but needed a car quickly and planned to pay off once I have the funds arranged.
So I now have the money sorted to pay off the balance and this is where it gets interesting as I’m having to pay back more on the settlement figure than taken out, if any of you could shed some light on this I would be greatful:

Car purchase price: £15600
Less deposit: £2000
Balance financed: £13600 at 9.9% over 48 months with a £6700 end payment.
Monthly payment £250
Total financed £18500

I have paid 2 months so far, so with the front loaded interest I was expecting a settlement of about £13400, however the figure I have just been given is £13,700. I have been assured by the finance company that this is correct and is caused by the front loading of interest, but I can’t get my head around why this number is bigger than what was taken out. Anyone have experience of of this?

jules_s

4,272 posts

233 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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I'm pretty certain they don't front load interest these days

kiethton

13,891 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Is there an option to purchase fee or similar increasing that settlement number?

lemonslap

Original Poster:

962 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Thank you for the replies, option to purchase fee is £1 and no admin fee.

lemonslap

Original Poster:

962 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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jules_s said:
I'm pretty certain they don't front load interest these days
This is what was done, so the first monthly payment was about £100 off the finance value and £150 interest ever decreasing inline with the finance amount much like mortgage payments.

MisterBigglesworth

454 posts

48 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Read the terms of the agreement you signed.

It will be a regulated agreement and the lender is entitled to charge 58 days interest as an early settlement charge.

As above, amortisation schedules means the proportion of interest to capital repaid is highest at the start of the agreement, and then declines as the balance is reduced, so the balance is always higher at the start of the agreement.

The figures will be correct. Finance agreements are FCA regulated and any settlements have to be in line with their rules on calculation of interest rebates.


Dimebars

891 posts

94 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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MisterBigglesworth said:
The figures will be correct.
But the nasty finance company are robbing him!

Sheepshanks

32,715 posts

119 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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MisterBigglesworth said:
It will be a regulated agreement and the lender is entitled to charge 58 days interest as an early settlement charge.
I forget which way around it is, one is early settlement penalty and the other is notice and one of the in 30 days and the other is 28days. They don't have to charge these but they're pretty standard.

So effectively you pay two months, but you have a month to make the payment.

J1990

805 posts

53 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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It's not that the interest is 'front-loaded', it's that at the start of the agreement the outstanding total is the highest and therefore the interest per month is highest... As per your mortgage.
When I've settled my finances I've normally had to pay current month's interest +28days, which seems fair to me and is in the paperwork I signed. Someone noted above the allowance is to be able to charge 58days interest... I don't have a source but again that sounds logical.

bennno

11,599 posts

269 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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MisterBigglesworth said:
Read the terms of the agreement you signed.

It will be a regulated agreement and the lender is entitled to charge 58 days interest as an early settlement charge.

As above, amortisation schedules means the proportion of interest to capital repaid is highest at the start of the agreement, and then declines as the balance is reduced, so the balance is always higher at the start of the agreement.

The figures will be correct. Finance agreements are FCA regulated and any settlements have to be in line with their rules on calculation of interest rebates.
100% correct answer, ignore others. regulated agreement = 58 days interest as early settlement.

lemonslap

Original Poster:

962 posts

155 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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bennno said:
MisterBigglesworth said:
Read the terms of the agreement you signed.

It will be a regulated agreement and the lender is entitled to charge 58 days interest as an early settlement charge.

As above, amortisation schedules means the proportion of interest to capital repaid is highest at the start of the agreement, and then declines as the balance is reduced, so the balance is always higher at the start of the agreement.

The figures will be correct. Finance agreements are FCA regulated and any settlements have to be in line with their rules on calculation of interest rebates.
100% correct answer, ignore others. regulated agreement = 58 days interest as early settlement.
Thank you both, that makes sense.